Getting shot off the board turn one --- terrain question

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**Galas**

I just like my models to survive and do more stuff. Doing stuff is fun. And I can feel like I'm killing stuff without having to kill half my opponent army.

In a 1vs1vs1 game of MESBG a week ago, one of my Corsair of Umbar survived 3 rounds of combat with his single attack agaisnt:
1-Aragorn Strider with Anduriel
2- Dunedain ranger
3- Dunedain Ranger

My opponents just laughed about it and we named him Jack Sparrow. He survived the rest of the game because my opponent just stopped trying to kill it after that humiliation.

In 9th that kind of stuff don't happen anymore. Units are so lethal but individually so irrelevant than when in those examples were 1-2 models survive they don't matter.

**Voss**

PenitentJake wrote:
I feel like it's up to us at a certain point to take the narrative threads we've been given and decide if we want to make anything of them in our game world.

For example, we've got some factions/ sub-factions that we know are stuck entirely in the Imperium Nihilus. That's cannon.

But if we want to, say limit the amount of Blood Angels that can join an Imperial Onslaught Army consisting of multiple detachments which happens to be fighting in the other half the Imperium, that's gotta be on us through mutual consent with our opponents, because you don't want to be the Blood Angel player who gets excluded from a campaign because of the rift.

If we suddenly decide that after the fall of Cadia, pure Cadian armies become a rarity- there's cannon to support that, but again, the decision to do it has to be on us.

The Ynarri haven't yet assaulted Slaanesh's realm looking to recover the final cronesword in the lore... But GW has set up the story if you want to fight the battle yourself.

I didn't see how the BSF storyline ended because there wasn't enough in the final expansion to compel me to buy it. But Taddius, Pious and Gottfrett all visited my Sisters on the way to the BSF and fought a few small battles with them. Now that the business at the BSF is wrapped up, I expect they'll be returning for a more permanent tour of duty. But again, it was all on me to set that up and make it happen.

I don't think these serve as positive examples of the point you're trying to make.
Certainly 'don't exclude players because 'canon'' doesn't.
That just says canon is a pointless obstacle to play.

Whoever Tad, Pious and Gott are... um? If I was playing you, I can't figure out why I'd care how you 'set up' having them in your armies. If they're valid imperial allies, just take them, its fine.

**the_scotsman**

Galas wrote:
I just like my models to survive and do more stuff. Doing stuff is fun. And I can feel like I'm killing stuff without having to kill half my opponent army.

In a 1vs1vs1 game of MESBG a week ago, one of my Corsair of Umbar survived 3 rounds of combat with his single attack agaisnt:
1-Aragorn Strider with Anduriel
2- Dunedain ranger
3- Dunedain Ranger

My opponents just laughed about it and we named him Jack Sparrow. He survived the rest of the game because my opponent just stopped trying to kill it after that humiliation.

In 9th that kind of stuff don't happen anymore. Units are so lethal but individually so irrelevant than when in those examples were 1-2 models survive they don't matter.

Aw man, this reminds me of a game of 7e where I had a dark eldar/eldar allied list, and I had a single surviving Storm Guardian with a melta gun team up with a single surviving Kabalite with a blaster and they formed a buddy-cop duo in turns 4, 5 and 6 of the game. That just doesnt happen anymore.

**macluvin**

the_scotsman wrote:
Galas wrote:
I just like my models to survive and do more stuff. Doing stuff is fun. And I can feel like I'm killing stuff without having to kill half my opponent army.

In a 1vs1vs1 game of MESBG a week ago, one of my Corsair of Umbar survived 3 rounds of combat with his single attack agaisnt:
1-Aragorn Strider with Anduriel
2- Dunedain ranger
3- Dunedain Ranger

My opponents just laughed about it and we named him Jack Sparrow. He survived the rest of the game because my opponent just stopped trying to kill it after that humiliation.

In 9th that kind of stuff don't happen anymore. Units are so lethal but individually so irrelevant than when in those examples were 1-2 models survive they don't matter.

Aw man, this reminds me of a game of 7e where I had a dark eldar/eldar allied list, and I had a single surviving Storm Guardian with a melta gun team up with a single surviving Kabalite with a blaster and they formed a buddy-cop duo in turns 4, 5 and 6 of the game. That just doesnt happen anymore.

This reminds me of a time in 7th when I deepstriked a squad of terminators that scattered right in the open of the kill zone of an entire army of tau and necrons and ate an entire round of shooting from both. They passed all their armor saves (like 30 of them) and a template weapon fired at them scattered on to a tau transport and blew it up.

I imagined a hail of bullets plinking off their armor with the shrill whistle of a mortar flying from the sky only to richochet off the terminator shoulder pad, and a cool explosion in the back ground. Followed by a grunted/hissed “Yes!” By the terminator aspiring champion... good game. I still lost XD

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It was over 120 shots that were fired at those termis...

**Sgt. Cortez**

Galas wrote:
I just like my models to survive and do more stuff. Doing stuff is fun. And I can feel like I'm killing stuff without having to kill half my opponent army.

In a 1vs1vs1 game of MESBG a week ago, one of my Corsair of Umbar survived 3 rounds of combat with his single attack agaisnt:
1-Aragorn Strider with Anduriel
2- Dunedain ranger
3- Dunedain Ranger

My opponents just laughed about it and we named him Jack Sparrow. He survived the rest of the game because my opponent just stopped trying to kill it after that humiliation.

In 9th that kind of stuff don't happen anymore. Units are so lethal but individually so irrelevant than when in those examples were 1-2 models survive they don't matter.

Well, I had a Plague Champion survive against a blob of 10 Necron Warriors for 4 rounds of combat and that was before the new Codex so he had just one wound

. He also managed to kill some of the damn robots, though as usual they were resurrected afterwards.

**Dysartes**

Voss wrote:
Whoever Tad, Pious and Gott are... um? If I was playing you, I can't figure out why I'd care how you 'set up' having them in your armies. If they're valid imperial allies, just take them, its fine.

Pretty sure Jake is referring to the three Ministorum characters from Blackstone Fortress (and/or expansions).