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Yeah, it’s knowing but without rubbing anyones face in it shrieking NOSTALGIAS!!!!! CAN YOU SEE MY NOSTALGIAS!!!!!
I’m really, really enjoying this show. Nice mix of character dynamics, with only Picard being particularly consistent (Seven being more Anneka is a solid character shift and one I appreciate).
Plus, everyone is getting some decent screen time, which can be tricky to get right. Certainly nobody really feels like they’re there just because they were in Season 1.
Roll on next Friday I say, but not before Monday because Monday is Walking Dead.
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It’s the same guy! Hah! I loved it because I didn’t recognize it for what it was as I watched it, it was some time afterwards I was thinking about it and like wait, wasn’t there a similar scene in the OST? Also now reading a story on the scenes and they mention the guy rubbing his neck where Spock had pinched him, or would have if that timeline had still existed.
It's probably going to end up the most popular scene in the whole series! I love that its not just a nod back but actually has so many of the same people involved so that its an actual nod back in creation as well.
Kirk Thatcher is the man. The story of why he write that song and recorded it in less than 24 hours is legendary. I’ll have to watch that scene just for him.
Its getting a bit silly.....and not in a good way.
Certainly nobody really feels like they’re there just because they were in Season 1.
Raffaela does more and more to me - least fav character by a good few miles.
I really enjoyed the first two episodes but the third for me was poor and the 4th about the same. It does not have the charm of Voyage home and its not gritty enough to take it seriously.
Swearing a bit does not make it "adult" in content or writing
Oh well lets see where it goes, at least
Spoiler:
Orla
is back in it.
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Mr Morden wrote: Its getting a bit silly.....and not in a good way.
Certainly nobody really feels like they’re there just because they were in Season 1.
Raffaela does more and more to me - least fav character by a good few miles.
I really enjoyed the first two episodes but the third for me was poor and the 4th about the same. It does not have the charm of Voyage home and its not gritty enough to take it seriously.
I agree. First couple of episodes were good but the last couple have felt a little weaker. Rafi is deeply annoying and one-note. I think almost every line since episode 2 has been the same from her and it's starting to grate. A lot. Seven's character is developing well though, and there's a hint at something else there too, which is interesting at least.
It's still very watchable but I hope it picks up again soon.
Rafi being one note kind of makes sense, its been what 24 hours or less since someone she considered pretty much a son was killed. She's also in an "alternate time line" so she knows that if she just fixes it everything can go back to what it was before.
So she's dealing with the mental hurdle that someone who is dead might not be dead, but only if she can solve a puzzle basically being set by what many consider the equivalent of a god playing at pulling wings of flies for fun.
Seven is actually developing at a REALLY fast mental speed compared to the others.
I think that things like this might not feel so bad if you watch it all in one go, but feel strange when its spread out with a real time week between episodes whereas in the setting there's almost no time passed at all.
Raffi is supposed to be the captain of a starship - if she can't deal with deaths other than by going nuts then she is going to be a awful captain and it will be even more obvious she got command because of who she knows. She is all kinds of stupid - all the time - probably more why Seven is not with her - because she is a mess and not a hot one....she deserves much much better
Everyone else is good, except they are not being given alot to work with....I don't even mind the
Spoiler:
time traveller guy meets pretty girl
in the past (yet again)
And they need to set a tone - its all over the place .
and that car chase....oh dear oh dear - seriously wtf
Spoiler:
so Raffi - idiot that she always is - wants to use her phaser to open doors then hacks the location - fair enough but then they have to steal the same vehicle - cos reasons.. They then drive it - (lets not switch cars cos reasons) in the open so that when finally caught they have to teleport away in plain sight and likely on traffic camera....yeah no impact on the time line there.....
I think that things like this might not feel so bad if you watch it all in one go, but feel strange when its spread out with a real time week between episodes whereas in the setting there's almost no time passed at all.
Its how I watch a lot of shows - this is just bad in certain places and character IMO
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
The only thing about the car scene that I disliked is that Seven could drive the car in the first place and drive it really well. When you consider that cars in the future are likely rarely used when you can teleport everywhere; and likely come with a bunch of auto-driver and other features. At least it was an American car so it had automatic gears.
But don't forget Raffi was drug addicted and unstable at the start of the first season. Her breaking under pressure makes perfect sense. We also saw her lose her son during that series, so its clear she's heavily dependent on a handful of very close people to her to maintain her stability. Her going to bits fits. She can lose a crew member she's not attached too, but someone in her inner circle who she's heavily emotionally dependent on, is a whole other ballgame for her.
I agree it feels like she's over-acting, but I think its an emotional collapse that makes sense for her as a character and might feel better when the episodes are watched back to back rather than with a week between them.
Likely Borg granted subconscious knowledge of how make car go. I’d imagine Seven is used to having skills she didn’t personally acquire, and not worrying too much about it.
And sure, her implants are gone, but given memories are fully intact, so would be any Borg granted knowledge.
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I get that there are potential reasons why Rafi is being annoying, but it doesn't make her any less annoying. If the writing was better I might be able to accept it, but it's just so cliched and one-note all the time.
The only thing about the car scene that I disliked is that Seven could drive the car in the first place and drive it really well. When you consider that cars in the future are likely rarely used when you can teleport everywhere; and likely come with a bunch of auto-driver and other features. At least it was an American car so it had automatic gears.
But don't forget Raffi was drug addicted and unstable at the start of the first season. Her breaking under pressure makes perfect sense.
re Raffi
Spoiler:
That makes it worse - they gave someone that unstable command of a starship...
Maybe Seven has a antique car somewhere Did she drive them in the Voyager Holo WWII episodes? Alot of people may have picked up odd knowledge and skills in there I guess
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I would have been nice if Seven had met the nice Dr lady - she gets on well with Drs But I guess its written that Seven and Raffi are a thing - sadly.
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Also probably worth pointing out getting into a car and making it go really isn’t all that difficult. Like, at all.
Finer manoeuvres like parking, turning in the road and generally knowing your Highway Code type equivalent? Sure. That takes learning.
But driving an Automatic in particular is an absolute piece of piss, with manuals (stick) being only mildly trickier until you know what to listen for and how to smoothly change gear.
And hey. History lessons/reading.
Can I ride a horse in a derby? Probably not, no. But I can probably get up on the bugger and make it walk around a bit.
Horse and Cart? Easy enough to make it go. Again it would likely be obvious I’m not massively competent at it (certainly making it stop might be a big problem, as they don’t have brakes as I’m used to them).
Because cars are pretty straight forward means of transportation. You don’t need a huge amount of skill by design.
Though whilst we’re on it, and just in general? It might be me being of above average height, but how come no bugger just jumping in a strange car in TV/Movies ever adjusts the seat and more importantly the mirrors?? The only one I can think of it happening is Commando, when Arnie rips out the seat.
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Can I ride a horse in a derby? Probably not, no. But I can probably get up on the bugger and make it walk around a bit.
You have not tried to ride a horse have you
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Get Olivia D'arbo back as Amanda Rogers - coild be fun
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
then hacks the location - fair enough but then they have to steal the same vehicle - cos reasons.. They then drive it - (lets not switch cars cos reasons) in the open so that when finally caught they have to teleport away in plain sight and likely on traffic camera....yeah no impact on the time line there.....
Did she drive them in the Voyager Holo WWII episodes? Alot of people may have picked up odd knowledge and skills in there I guess
