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 Overread wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
No promise for everyone to get one?

That's way too many discount boxes for GW to give that promise. It would overload their production demands for AGES with those boxes.

Its a Christmas season box too, to expect that they would make this available to everyone to only supply in several months time is a it overreaching.

Yeah. Even before GW leaned heavily into the FOMO strategy, Christmas boxes were always limited quantity

tneva82 wrote:
Why would it mention snots? And kit for ork plane can be used to build several different options. You choose which you build,

Sorry I meant Gretchin

Wait, does this mean that the battleforces aren't on preorder for UK next Saturday?

ThatDraz wrote:
Wait, does this mean that the battleforces aren't on preorder for UK next Saturday?

The only ones which are delayed in the UK are Death Guard and Ossiarch Bonereapers.

Really tempted to pick up the space marines for my crimson fists! If it's 125 I'll get it from a third party for sure.

VAYASEN wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Why would it mention snots? And kit for ork plane can be used to build several different options. You choose which you build,

Sorry I meant Gretchin

the descriptions don't mention everything on this article, this one doesn't mention the 5 nobs either

Prices

Space Marine Shieldbreaker Strike Force £130, €160
Necron Worldscour Legion £130, €160
Ork Killadakka War band £125, €160
Sisters Purgatos Mission £130, €160
AdMech Omnissiahs Talon £125, €160

Soulblight Revenant Legion £130, €160
Hedonites Sybarite Blade-Carnival £130, €160
LRL Vanari Shining Host £130, €160

£130/€160 is $210 in GW exchange rates.

Plaguefester Warband and Mortisan Tithe-Echelon delayed release in UK and EU

Some are up £5 compared to last year, others have held price? That's not too bad, I wouldn't say.

Certainly better than folk were expecting. I can see these being pretty popular.

Not happy with this. Very much the kind of discount that gets eaten up if you don't like exactly all of the random stuff that shows up in the box. I was interested in the Sisters box, now I'm on the fence.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Certainly better than folk were expecting. I can see these being pretty popular.

160€ was one end of the price range I was expecting, and certainly not the better one.

Ork battleforce is 225€ without discount (using regular boyz prices), so you essentially get the trike and the nobz for free. I guess as long as you want the boyz, it's a good deal.

On the high end for me too. For the majority of boxes, there's too many random units I don't care about to justify the combined cost.

For anyone happy for the discounts, have fun, looks like the marine box is the best discount the other ones, some feel real meh with the cost unless you want all the units in the box and some of those units are real head scratches. Like I like mephetic blight haulers but they aren't for everyone with their point cost or monopose look they have.

Could have been worse cost wise.

 Geifer wrote:
Not happy with this. Very much the kind of discount that gets eaten up if you don't like exactly all of the random stuff that shows up in the box. I was interested in the Sisters box, now I'm on the fence.

Discount box not being discount if you don't want all. And in other news water is wet and sun is hot.

I think the key is that when these were in the £100 bracket it was a hobby price with a discount that was more in peoples christmas impulse purchase range. Adding another £30 on top is pushing it a little more out of that impulse christmas hobby price. Esp when you consider from 3rd parties a £100 with 20% discount drops to a more comfortable £80

This year and last I've notice, in the UK, more of a discount spread and even within stores some things are and some things are not discounted or are discounted by different values. Even with a 20% drop a £130 box drops to £106.

That's AUD$350 per box. That's rough.

I could get that to $272.5 (incl. shipping) via discounters, but still, that's not a small amount.

 Overread wrote:
I think the key is that when these were in the £100 bracket it was a hobby price with a discount that was more in peoples christmas impulse purchase range. Adding another £30 on top is pushing it a little more out of that impulse christmas hobby price. Esp when you consider from 3rd parties a £100 with 20% discount drops to a more comfortable £80

This year and last I've notice, in the UK, more of a discount spread and even within stores some things are and some things are not discounted or are discounted by different values. Even with a 20% drop a £130 box drops to £106.

Yeah. Part of GW's success over the last five years has been getting people to put down larger sums of money at once, enticed by bulk discount. Start collecting, battle boxes and the like. GW's price increases take the prices of most of these boxes up to a point where they're not an easy sell anymore. In some cases, GW acknowledged this by keeping the price steady but reducing the number of models in the box. I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself, but most of these boxes are too much money in one go for my liking, regardless of the actual discount involved is good. They're a testament to how much GW has jacked up the base prices on which discount is calculated and not something I'd drop money on without second thoughts.

The Slaanesh box still tempts me as I basically want all of the content. A £196.50 at £130 means saving £66.60, so basically two boxes are free in that, or just a little under.

 Overread wrote:
The Slaanesh box still tempts me as I basically want all of the content. A £196.50 at £130 means saving £66.60, so basically two boxes are free in that, or just a little under.

Well if you want everything then 33% off is a no brainer innit

 Overread wrote:
The Slaanesh box still tempts me as I basically want all of the content. A £196.50 at £130 means saving £66.60, so basically two boxes are free in that, or just a little under.

Even better if you bag it from say, Element or Dark Sphere. Other online retailers offering a discount are available.

No he's not getting any more than 2 free boxes if buying from discounter.

JWBS wrote:
No he's not getting any more than 2 free boxes if buying from discounter.

Compared to RRP he would be.

No he's factored in the discount with his initial numbers. If he had written the figures as a discount price and discount saving and said "2 free boxes" it would have been the same thing, the 2 boxes was the operative part.

Exactly. It's 2 free boxes from GW or from an independent, assuming the independent puts the battleforce on the same discount. It only changes if they discount the battleforce less or not at all.

Omnissiah's Talon is $303USD worth of content. Saves you $93, basically getting you the Manipulus and Ironstriders for free.
Purgatos Mission is $305USD worth of content, saving you $95...giving you the Dogmata and Sisters of Battle Squad for free.

2 free boxes out of a battleforce is the bare minimum to even consider buying one of those. With a smaller discount I can't even imagine why someone would want to buy a battleforce instead of the separate kits.

 Blackie wrote:
2 free boxes out of a battleforce is the bare minimum to even consider buying one of those. With a smaller discount I can't even imagine why someone would want to buy a battleforce instead of the separate kits.

I don't disagree though you are able to flog the kits you don't want/need for an even bigger discount on the models you decide to keep. Whether the time and hassle is worth it may be another question!

JWBS wrote:
No he's factored in the discount with his initial numbers. If he had written the figures as a discount price and discount saving and said "2 free boxes" it would have been the same thing, the 2 boxes was the operative part.

£196.50 is the RRP of the contents of the Slaanesh box - check GW.com for confirmation.
£130 is the leaked price of the box (as per DaveC's post), which I also presume is RRP
As the Mad Doc pointed out, you can save more than the £66.50 by buying from somewhere who will sell the £130 box at a discount.

Now, if you normally buy from a discounter, you might find that the "2 boxes" thing still holds, but if you compare what you might get it at from the likes of Element (probably 20% off?), you're looking at a further saving compared to RRP of £26 - which isn't far off another box itself.

Mad Doc Grotsnik - am I right regarding the point you were making?

Wait, are we trying to compare the Christmas boxes with added third party retailer discount with standard boxes bought at MSRP even though you could get the latter from a third party with discounts as well?

We can all agree that the actual discounts on these boxes are good and among the highest GW offers. Surely there's no need to try and make them look better with dodgy comparisons?