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Sasori wrote: Avatar would be pretty absurd at that cost and statline if true. Sure hope that's not the case.
I think if any units are allowed to get away with being on the overpowered for their cost side it's unique units that are limited to 1 per army. Especially the ones that can be targeted and blown off the tabletop from the other side of the board such as Mortarion, Magnus, The Avatar, Named Greater Daemons, Ghazghkull etc.
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Sasori wrote: Avatar would be pretty absurd at that cost and statline if true. Sure hope that's not the case.
I think if any units are allowed to get away with being on the overpowered for their cost side it's unique units that are limited to 1 per army. Especially the ones that can be targeted and blown off the tabletop from the other side of the board such as Mortarion, Magnus, The Avatar, Named Greater Daemons, Ghazghkull etc.
I agree with this. If a spammable unit is OP then it’s just horrible to face. But 1 epic centrepiece that’s actually scary is great.
Sasori wrote: Avatar would be pretty absurd at that cost and statline if true. Sure hope that's not the case.
I think if any units are allowed to get away with being on the overpowered for their cost side it's unique units that are limited to 1 per army. Especially the ones that can be targeted and blown off the tabletop from the other side of the board such as Mortarion, Magnus, The Avatar, Named Greater Daemons, Ghazghkull etc.
0-1 unit being allowed to be op for cost is noob game design logic
Where did these rumours originate from again, is it someone claiming to have read the playtest codex? Aren’t future kill team boxes well out of the scope for what they should know?
ImAGeek wrote: Where did these rumours originate from again, is it someone claiming to have read the playtest codex? Aren’t future kill team boxes well out of the scope for what they should know?
It's not inconceivable someone who has access to early versions of the codex also has access to early rules for other stuff. Likewise the units introduced in kill team still need playtesting in 40k, makes sense they'd test it with the codex.
ImAGeek wrote: Where did these rumours originate from again, is it someone claiming to have read the playtest codex? Aren’t future kill team boxes well out of the scope for what they should know?
IIRC the claim was one leaker had a playtest codex and another had a partial, finished codex (inc. art) to translate.
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Sasori wrote: Avatar would be pretty absurd at that cost and statline if true. Sure hope that's not the case.
I think if any units are allowed to get away with being on the overpowered for their cost side it's unique units that are limited to 1 per army. Especially the ones that can be targeted and blown off the tabletop from the other side of the board such as Mortarion, Magnus, The Avatar, Named Greater Daemons, Ghazghkull etc.
0-1 unit being allowed to be op for cost is noob game design logic
There will always be units that are on the overpowered for their cost side, always have been, always will be. But like I said I feel the units that can get away with being on the OP side (as opposed to other units in the game) are the non spammable unique ones that are limited to 1 per army.
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Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
ImAGeek wrote: Where did these rumours originate from again, is it someone claiming to have read the playtest codex? Aren’t future kill team boxes well out of the scope for what they should know?
They are...and the claim of a Squat Kill Team goes against what the credible leak schedule talked about.
ImAGeek wrote: Where did these rumours originate from again, is it someone claiming to have read the playtest codex? Aren’t future kill team boxes well out of the scope for what they should know?
They are...and the claim of a Squat Kill Team goes against what the credible leak schedule talked about.
No it isn't, they also said some squats were coming, but didn't elaborate further.
ImAGeek wrote: Where did these rumours originate from again, is it someone claiming to have read the playtest codex? Aren’t future kill team boxes well out of the scope for what they should know?
They are...and the claim of a Squat Kill Team goes against what the credible leak schedule talked about.
No it isn't, they also said some squats were coming, but didn't elaborate further.
You're right. That's my bad, I conflated a comment made by Bob from War of Sigmar into it.
ImAGeek wrote: Where did these rumours originate from again, is it someone claiming to have read the playtest codex? Aren’t future kill team boxes well out of the scope for what they should know?
They are...and the claim of a Squat Kill Team goes against what the credible leak schedule talked about.
No it isn't, they also said some squats were coming, but didn't elaborate further.
You're right. That's my bad, I conflated a comment made by Bob from War of Sigmar into it.
Wow! Looks like there have been a lot of changes since I last checked the thread. I'm not sure how to feel about DA in the Elite spot, I like to run Guardians and Avengers so it won't affect me too much but I know most folks only use DA for troops.
I'm happy the Avatar looks more durable, I'll be happy to have my heavy metal Avatar stomp around the board with that profile.
Tiberius501 wrote: So will this box set being revealed tonight potentially make these advent leaks more believable? I want the new models to be true xD
Not particularly. A lot of the rules ones will stay silly no matter what gets revealed. Other rules are just extrapolation of rules that are becoming more common across the game like the Avatar getting a hard stab and cleave (anti-chaff) attacks (or whatever they're called).
Model-wise, its about what you'd expect- we all know Craftworlds have a lot of work that needs to be done, and basically anything non-tank and non-wraith fills that void.
Except the corsairs, but even that fits with other things (like the other rumors distilling FW Renegades and Heretics down into something that can be stuffed sideways in the chaos marines under the 'cultist' umbrella), or since they're the original Eldar concept out of Rogue Trader, its a nostalgia button like GSC or AdMech. And brace for the 'blah, blah' narrative about the new and improved GW not 'really' cancelling the FW product lines, just showing off a new place for it was delayed by things they couldn't control. Even though most of those products will remain cancelled.
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Tiberius501 wrote: So will this box set being revealed tonight potentially make these advent leaks more believable? I want the new models to be true xD
Not really seeing we have had reliable rumour with proven track record saying eldar and chaos early 2022. Would be stupia for troll to invent stuff that contradict reliable rumours
