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2022/01/10 21:50:19
Subject: Re:Aeldari rumours (even more leaks page 36)
Autarch is great. Love that the Warp Spider options are there.
vipoid wrote: A Xeno HQ with a range of options *and* backwards compatibility.
GW, are you... feeling okay?
I think it's a shift.
Look at the new Gravis Captain and Primaris Ancient. They've got new hats weapon options. This has weapon options. Maybe GW have finally wised up and realised that this gak just isn't what people want when it comes to characters. They want actual options, and not weird combo restrictions.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Autarch is great. Love that the Warp Spider options are there.
vipoid wrote: A Xeno HQ with a range of options *and* backwards compatibility.
GW, are you... feeling okay?
I think it's a shift.
Look at the new Gravis Captain and Primaris Ancient. They've got new hats weapon options. This has weapon options. Maybe GW have finally wised up and realised that this gak just isn't what people want when it comes to characters. They want actual options, and not weird combo restrictions.
We can only hope.
Watch them follow this up with a Chaos Lord that can only ever be equipped with a power axe, but OH WAIT you can choose between a PLASMA PISTOL or a BOLT PISTOL!!!
This Autarch and the Cannoness they gave to the Sisters are the better examples of what we all know that GW can do. Now we just need that treatment in other factions.
2022/01/10 22:20:04
Subject: Re:Aeldari rumours (even more leaks page 36)
drbored wrote: Watch them follow this up with a Chaos Lord that can only ever be equipped with a power axe, but OH WAIT you can choose between a PLASMA PISTOL or a BOLT PISTOL!!!
Wouldn't shock me. I mean, they are about to do this to Chosen, so we shouldn't get our hopes up too high.
The new Autarch is really a statement from GW:
"OK, you want options, we give you the most bland, tired pose model ever so you can just tack on your weapons without context or purpose"
I guess you win some, lose some. At least he/she is not in the middle of a jump, suspended in air by swirly gak.
All in all a decent model, now gimme some Maugan Ra already!
Fayric wrote: The new Autarch is really a statement from GW:
"OK, you want options, we give you the most bland, tired pose model ever so you can just tack on your weapons without context or purpose"
I guess you win some, lose some. At least he/she is not in the middle of a jump, suspended in air by swirly gak.
All in all a decent model, now gimme some Maugan Ra already!
Exactly. This model recreates the classic Autarchs to the point, where they managed to recreate the 2.5D nature of pewter sculpts. But combining the two models it should be possible to get some interesting poses with limited conversions. Sadly, the fusion gun is an unsalvageable disaster pose of "psst, wanna buy a perfectly good, second hand Dragon Fusion Gun?"
2022/01/10 23:45:37
Subject: Aeldari rumours (even more leaks page 36)
Very impressive stuff. Im not one to praise GW but on this account they seem to be giving us the Eldar people what we want
GW will certainly be getting some of my money this year haha. Im happy my winged tarch conversion can come out the legends banishment zone and join the fray once again.
The only thing im not interested in is guardians. Im up to about 45 guardians and stormies and had I known Id have not bothered with fail cast... Alas.. I dont want to paint another guardian ever again at this point.
Not really sure why people are bashing the poses... Not only is it compatible with the winged autarch im sure you will be able to kit bash it with things like bansshees/Dire evengers and other stuff we have inbound. Also just take it off the tacticool rock...
Its a great time to be a craft order. Im stoked
It looks like us the Eldar players will soon have as money autarch as we have farseers
Im most curious what they do with warlock conclaves and seer council. Would be great for a seer council unit again.
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AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
clodax66 wrote: is me or are they really milking these previews. I was hoping for more previews not preview of more options of miniature they already previewed. What next week we are going to get previews of rest of the options for this miniatures.
Next week will be full preview of Shroud Runners. Then Reapers, then Maugan, and lastly the Avatar and that will be all we get this decade
But jokes aside, GW drip feeds those previews at such a rate, that I gave up hope for a Necron scale update, as such would take half a year of weekly Paths of the Previews.
And this Autarch looks like it was designed at the same time as the previous one, they just saved it for later, just as they did with Jetbikes.
They gave a more in depth preview of the autarch which they had no need to do and yes they will drag it out. If they show all the centrepieces and most requested units now, people will probably just get bored while the book comes out, which I dare say is likely 3 months away.
If we assume for a moment that this is a complete update (which we know is not the case), without any new units besides the Shroud Runners, it would take another three to four months of weekly, single unit/hero previews to just cover everything dating 2nd to 4th ed.
What is more worrying is that the entire Eldar side of Advent Engine was about Eldritch Omens only and both "hanging" old rumours are already revealed - Guardian platform operator and Bloody Hand. Only Maugan was unexpected in the new year's sneak peek, so the "large but incomplete" may not be that large after all...
According to rumours we have:
Baharroth
Maugan Ra
Avatar
Swooping Hawks
Warp Spiders
Rangers
Ranger Bikes
Shining Spears
Guardians
Dark Reapers
Corsairs
Autarch
12 weeks is just shy of 3 months, 12 units is also a "large update" by any measure.
Corsairs don't count if they're in a kill team box, it'll be a separate release later.
2022/01/10 23:47:33
Subject: Aeldari rumours (even more leaks page 36)
AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
In my mind the most important thing about this model is its ability to be kitbashed with other eldar models, that and the extra weapons it has.
This means the eldar will actually have the ability to have interesting and unique conversions for characters in the same way marines have had for 20+ years.
I'm looking forward to people using the new plastic eldar kit components to create new and interesting looking models.
The pose of this one while boring will make it very flexible in this regard.
The Red Hobbit wrote: I'm very pleasantly surprised the Autarch is coming with so many options, and backwards compatible too!
Makes me want to get two of the new box.
Man I hope it doesn't come out this month/next month...
Hellebore wrote: In my mind the most important thing about this model is its ability to be kitbashed with other eldar models, that and the extra weapons it has.
One other Eldar model. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Hellebore wrote: This means the eldar will actually have the ability to have interesting and unique conversions for characters in the same way marines have had for 20+ years.
I'm looking forward to people using the new plastic eldar kit components to create new and interesting looking models.
Nothing of the sort has been mentioned in the Autarch article. It's compatible with the other plastic Autarch. That's it. We're not at the level of Pre-8th Ed Maries, where you could mix'n'match anything with anything.
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Fayric wrote: The new Autarch is really a statement from GW:
"OK, you want options, we give you the most bland, tired pose model ever so you can just tack on your weapons without context or purpose"
As a DE player, I'd say that options and a bland model are vastly better to a "dynamic" model with no options.
Reason being, it's a hell of a lot easier (and more rewarding) to convert a model to your liking than it is to get your opponent to accept rules for wargear/weapons that no longer exist.
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the_scotsman wrote: Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote: GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
2022/01/11 00:22:05
Subject: Aeldari rumours (even more leaks page 36)
The Red Hobbit wrote: I'm very pleasantly surprised the Autarch is coming with so many options, and backwards compatible too!
Makes me want to get two of the new box.
Man I hope it doesn't come out this month/next month...
Hellebore wrote: In my mind the most important thing about this model is its ability to be kitbashed with other eldar models, that and the extra weapons it has.
One other Eldar model. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Hellebore wrote: This means the eldar will actually have the ability to have interesting and unique conversions for characters in the same way marines have had for 20+ years.
I'm looking forward to people using the new plastic eldar kit components to create new and interesting looking models.
Nothing of the sort has been mentioned in the Autarch article. It's compatible with the other plastic Autarch. That's it. We're not at the level of Pre-8th Ed Maries, where you could mix'n'match anything with anything.
I'm talking kitbashing not compatibility. With an actual range of plastic kits, there will be real options for kitbashing models. Autarch bits on exarchs, exarch bits on autarchs.
Even if they stopped right now, with the banshees and autarchs that's a lot of options to build interesting models. But as we're also getting at least on new aspect confirmed by WARCOM, I expect there will be even more options.
That's better than old gurdians, dire avengers and one autarch to work with.
The Red Hobbit wrote: I'm very pleasantly surprised the Autarch is coming with so many options, and backwards compatible too!
Makes me want to get two of the new box.
Man I hope it doesn't come out this month/next month...
Hellebore wrote: In my mind the most important thing about this model is its ability to be kitbashed with other eldar models, that and the extra weapons it has.
One other Eldar model. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Hellebore wrote: This means the eldar will actually have the ability to have interesting and unique conversions for characters in the same way marines have had for 20+ years.
I'm looking forward to people using the new plastic eldar kit components to create new and interesting looking models.
Nothing of the sort has been mentioned in the Autarch article. It's compatible with the other plastic Autarch. That's it. We're not at the level of Pre-8th Ed Maries, where you could mix'n'match anything with anything.
I'm talking kitbashing not compatibility. With an actual range of plastic kits, there will be real options for kitbashing models. Autarch bits on exarchs, exarch bits on autarchs.
Even if they stopped right now, with the banshees and autarchs that's a lot of options to build interesting models. But as we're also getting at least on new aspect confirmed by WARCOM, I expect there will be even more options.
That's better than old gurdians, dire avengers and one autarch to work with.
Have an exalt!
Ive managed to kit bash 2 decentish autarchs by using visarch and ol failcast kit. That was pre plastic banshees even.. In comparison to these incoming plastic kits wil be an absolute treasure trove of bits!
AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
Agreed with the more options for kitbashing - that new female autarch torso and helm might work well with a set of Banshee legs to do a very dynamic pose for a start.
So anxious to see what Aspects we really will get in plastic - I think the rumors have mentioned several but still seems hard to believe for some reason. Obviously they have mentioned one being previewed next week, but with the Ra tease they almost have to be Dark Reapers but I guess we shall see soon enough....
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2022/01/11 01:25:12
Subject: Aeldari rumours (even more leaks page 36)
I'm hoping for Shining Spears. They have received one model kit for their entire existence, and even that kit is just a conversion kit of the previous version of the Jetbike.
The Red Hobbit wrote: I'm very pleasantly surprised the Autarch is coming with so many options, and backwards compatible too!
Makes me want to get two of the new box.
Man I hope it doesn't come out this month/next month...
I know exactly what you mean, I'm very excited for the new Eldar releases since about half of my army is metal. That said we've got a newborn in our family now so I've finally started to accrue a backlog, I've managed to prime my Kill Team 21 terrain but still haven't had a chance to paint it, heck I haven't even had time to assemble the Kommandos. Hopefully I'll find some time to catch up since I think we'll be seeing some great Eldar releases in 2022!
2022/01/11 03:55:12
Subject: Aeldari rumours (even more leaks page 36)
Okay, I was sorta meh about the new Autarch (I'd rather a female Farseer for my OC do not steal Farseer Faleaseen) But now it can be a male Autarch not just female it'll allow me to make my other OC do not steal High-Autarch Raloth Arlyandor. I hope there are rules to equip the Autarch with a shuriken catapult like it was in the old codexes, even though it doesn't seem you get that option in this. But can convert one pretty easily from my old Dire Avenger bitz. Right now I'm using my Skyrunner Autarch for him. This also makes me more excited for if there's a Commander expansion for Killteam 2: Electric Boogaloo. Might use one of the awesome looking bare heads in the new Guardian box.
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2022/01/11 03:59:38
Subject: Re:Aeldari rumours (even more leaks page 36)
Glad to see T4 and 5++ Invul. Those Exarch powers are solid, really make Fire Dragon's fulfill their role. Tough choice between auto-wound and damage boost.
2022/01/11 04:42:52
Subject: Aeldari rumours (even more leaks page 36)
T3 Eldar has been a pretty solid universal constant for many'a decade.
A couple of theories:
1: it's a mistake
2: all aspects are now Sv 3+ and T4 is what 'heavy' aspect armour now is (so scorpions, spiders, reapers and dragons would be T4 with this rule).
3: its a purely dragon feature of the aspect. if this is true then scorpions may be S4 standard
Personally I am hoping they've pushed all aspects to Sv3+ and heavy armour is T4, because 4+ saves on expensive elite units with T3 and W1 is not very survivable.
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drbored wrote: Watch them follow this up with a Chaos Lord that can only ever be equipped with a power axe, but OH WAIT you can choose between a PLASMA PISTOL or a BOLT PISTOL!!!
Wouldn't shock me. I mean, they are about to do this to Chosen, so we shouldn't get our hopes up too high.
Honestly not too worried about that. The major thing with the Sword Brethren kit is that you can kit them out real straightforward and simple just by giving everyone a bolt pistol and power sword. Maybe give the squad leader one of the special weapons to mark him out as different or whatever.
If they do the same with Chosen, I won't be too upset. Give them a 'base' loadout that's real easy, like all power axes or all power mauls or something, and then sprinkle in the other options so you can pick one or two to be different or pack that extra punch.
Yeah it's a lot of weird rules gak that you gotta read through, but I'd rather have options that represent the box, rather than have to buy 4 boxes to get the right loadout that I need to play them 'optimally' or some crud.
2022/01/11 05:18:40
Subject: Re:Aeldari rumours (even more leaks page 36)
drbored wrote: If they do the same with Chosen, I won't be too upset. Give them a 'base' loadout that's real easy, like all power axes or all power mauls or something, and then sprinkle in the other options so you can pick one or two to be different or pack that extra punch.
Except when you end up in the weird situation where you can take only take 3 Combi-Weapons per 5 because the kit only comes with 3, and they have to be one of each type (melta, flamer, plasma) unless you take 10 Chosen, where suddenly you can have 6, but again, only 2 of each type.
Meanwhile, in Sternguard land, they can have whatever the feth they want...
T3 Eldar has been a pretty solid universal constant for many'a decade.
A couple of theories:
1: it's a mistake
2: all aspects are now Sv 3+ and T4 is what 'heavy' aspect armour now is (so scorpions, spiders, reapers and dragons would be T4 with this rule).
3: its a purely dragon feature of the aspect. if this is true then scorpions may be S4 standard
Personally I am hoping they've pushed all aspects to Sv3+ and heavy armour is T4, because 4+ saves on expensive elite units with T3 and W1 is not very survivable.
I'm hoping it's #2 as well. GW has been raising toughness this edition and we've already got a precedent with Gravis Armor giving +1T. T4 and 5++ will go a long way towards making Aspects survivable, I'm looking forward to running mine again!
2022/01/11 08:04:11
Subject: Aeldari rumours (even more leaks page 36)
I have this guy waiting with magnetised warp spider jump pack and wings … what are the chances I can use him and what could I make the gun (also magged so I could build something lighter, maybe a fire pike)
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