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 Azreal13 wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Picked up today's White Dwarf with the Altansar rules, very happy! I am a bit curious why this couldn't have been put into the codex. It's only a few pages, can't see it making much of a difference for the codex print copies.

That's a bit like asking "why that skin wasn't included" with the original release of the videogame...

They are a major Craftworld that has recently not only received new lore but a Major faction character update.

Has anyone seen if Windriders will get battle focus or stats for Vypers?

 Togusa wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Picked up today's White Dwarf with the Altansar rules, very happy! I am a bit curious why this couldn't have been put into the codex. It's only a few pages, can't see it making much of a difference for the codex print copies.

That's a bit like asking "why that skin wasn't included" with the original release of the videogame...

They are a major Craftworld that has recently not only received new lore but a Major faction character update.

So major nobodies ever heard of them before lol

Altansar's been mentioned in every edition since 2nd edition.

Weren't they a lost craftworld until very recently?

If by very recently you mean the Eye of Terror campaign in 2003

Iracundus wrote:
If by very recently you mean the Eye of Terror campaign in 2003

19 years is recent by the standards of a faction that uses models from 30+ years ago.

But aye, clearly i have my timeline really wrong.

 Togusa wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Picked up today's White Dwarf with the Altansar rules, very happy! I am a bit curious why this couldn't have been put into the codex. It's only a few pages, can't see it making much of a difference for the codex print copies.

That's a bit like asking "why that skin wasn't included" with the original release of the videogame...

They are a major Craftworld that has recently not only received new lore but a Major faction character update.

I think the answer to the question was in your own statement. You purchased the latest WD. A way to generate more income from sales.

 DivineVisitor wrote:
Whoever came up with/and or is enforcing the stringent adherence to limiting customisation options for characters simply because the specific model doesn't have said options in their kit needs to be slapped.

That was Kelly and Cruddace in garbage atrocity that was 7th edition Codex: Deathwatch (which then, despite being quite bad book, was nerfed four times in a row in subsequent FAQs and publication by these jokers). Alas, no one heeded warnings of DW players of what is coming and a big protest (that could have reversed this stupid course) never happened. So, yeah, players of other armies have what they asked for, really

I especially like how in 8th edition Index DW was the only SM chapter to have nerfed gear (to the point DW had separate, tiny dread equipment table) and in 9th edition supplement, some imbecile deleted SIA from anything that doesn't have a tiny button switch on a gun and got rid of most of DW specific equipment making the faction bland and flavorless. I am now waiting for 10th edition and introduction of this gak in other books to say 'told you so'

Dare we hope for pre-order announcement tonight?

Well, you can hope, sure.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Dare we hope for pre-order announcement tonight?

That is what I came back on here today to see. Is it to be enlightenment or darkness for another week?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/20/sunday-preview-the-aeldari-warhost-arrives-in-triumph/

Codex, Maugan Ra, Dark Reapers, Warlocks, Guardians (plus Ynnari characters available separately)

Woot! Thats my spending for WHW’s 25th Anniversary well and truly sorted.

Codex, Warlocks, Dark Reapers and probably at least a couple of boxes of Guardians.

So what’s left?

Avatar of Khaine
Shining Spears
Corsairs

Separate release of
-rangers
-autarch
-shroudrunners

Sounds about right to my memory.

Curious they didn’t lead with the Avatar though.

This is the big one!

Sigh...now its a question of how much.

Book, reapers and maugan for me I think.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Sounds about right to my memory.

Curious they didn’t lead with the Avatar though.

For people starting new armies, better to get the meat of the force done before the capstone centerpiece model?

Let people recover from the expensive Vs. Chaos box before dropping another high priced kit? Let them grab a few smaller boxes while they wait.

Honestly there is so much stuff dropping they need to separate it out somehow. Pros/cons to however they do it.

Also, at some point the new combat patrol. Forgot about that one.

 Nevelon wrote:
So what’s left?

Avatar of Khaine
Shining Spears
Corsairs

Separate release of
-rangers
-autarch
-shroudrunners

Aren't Corsairs going to be released in a Kill Team box first (so they're a long way off)?

 Nevelon wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Sounds about right to my memory.

Curious they didn’t lead with the Avatar though.

For people starting new armies, better to get the meat of the force done before the capstone centerpiece model?

Let people recover from the expensive Vs. Chaos box before dropping another high priced kit? Let them grab a few smaller boxes while they wait.

Honestly there is so much stuff dropping they need to separate it out somehow. Pros/cons to however they do it.

Also, at some point the new combat patrol. Forgot about that one.

Yeah they've probably done a bunch of research on what the average customer spends per month on a new release and worked out that for example ~£100 is the optimal figure. That means a model which will inevitably cost around £80 will be tough to buy alongside the codex, accessories, and any core models. Some people will still be working on the EO box too, and might only want to make a minimal purchase with the codex.

I skipped Eldritch Omens because it didn't have anything that interests me and the value felt bad. I don't fancy Maugan Ra or Dark Reapers either but I feel like restarting my Ulthwe army with 2 boxes of Guardians and duo of Warlocks. I don't think I have any 8th or 9th edition Codexes so I might as well invest in Collector's Edition Codex.

beast_gts wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
So what’s left?

Avatar of Khaine
Shining Spears
Corsairs

Separate release of
-rangers
-autarch
-shroudrunners

Aren't Corsairs going to be released in a Kill Team box first (so they're a long way off)?

I am guessing at least summer before we get stand alone Corsairs and probably the kill team box mid march.

I wonder if the units from the boxset will debut with the rest of the range, or if GW will release them randomly a few months from now. Given that the autarch is part of that lot, it would be pretty unfortunate

I do wonder if GW will relent under pressure to change Autarch loadouts to match codex cover if rule is limited in datasheet as expected.

Wow, four bullet points for the Ulthwe trait, that's a lot to remember. Hopefully they still have rules for Custom Craftworlds so you can make your own or try to put together a pair to match up a lesser known craftworld like il-kaithe.

Any word on when we can pre-order the codex?

Saturday.

Custom attributes:

Never mind… nothing to see here. =][=

I have a small Craftworld Eldar force which I don't plan to update any time soon. However I like the look of the new gem-effect dice. Maybe I'll pick them up, though it's not like I've currently got a shortage of D6's.