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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The biggest, maybe main flaw of Cursed City was the lack of communication.

Regardless of why it happened this way, the reason they went silent was to suppress the secondary market prices for the game until they could produce enough to match demand and outweigh scalpers.

I expect they see their tactic as a success given the circumstances. The price on the secondary market was outrageous a few days after the preorder sold out but once it seemed like they were canning the game it drove those prices way down and it became basically unsellable above RRP.

Not the most consumer friendly method, but in context of what they were dealing with it makes sense.

There could have been all sorts of legal reasons for the silence, contracts and new negotiations and maybe even NDAs. I hope we find out soon but imagine it will be a while. Sure marketing and protecting their IP and brand were a big part too. Strange and a shame. I would have lapped up expansions if they were done like blackstone but not these. Luckily I like the game as a stand alone as well.

 ohreally wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The biggest, maybe main flaw of Cursed City was the lack of communication.

Regardless of why it happened this way, the reason they went silent was to suppress the secondary market prices for the game until they could produce enough to match demand and outweigh scalpers.

I expect they see their tactic as a success given the circumstances. The price on the secondary market was outrageous a few days after the preorder sold out but once it seemed like they were canning the game it drove those prices way down and it became basically unsellable above RRP.

Not the most consumer friendly method, but in context of what they were dealing with it makes sense.

I’m not entirely sure that makes sense.

Something happened. And we know GW ended up having a strictly finite number to sell. But if we can rely on the preview show information being Correct At The Time Of Going To Press, their intention was for it to be an ongoing product.

Yet come launch? Strictly Finite. Saying nothing about it, let alone confirming “sorry folks, it’s gone a bit wrong, but we’ll bring it back properly just as soon as we can” doesn’t suppress Scalpers at all. It encourages them. Snaffle copies from FLGS shelves, pick them up cheap wherever you can, then inflate inflate inflate. Hell, even folk who’d bought in good faith saw a potential payday and sold on at a significant markup.

If they’d reassured folk it would come back? Scalpers lose market to patience. Not universally, sure. But still a loss of potential market.

Todays Squiboss solves a Rumour Engine Pic:



Source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/24/tis-the-night-before-christmas-and-da-red-gobbos-brought-his-mates/

I was really hoping that one would turn out to be the Riddler.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I was really hoping that one would turn out to be the Riddler.

You certainly mean the Quandarian Investigarch - have to AOS it up, after all

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I was really hoping that one would turn out to be the Riddler.

Well, he is green and probably annoys the hell out of everyone, so you're already halfway there.

"Riddle me this, Fell Batman."

Bio organic stuff?

Multipart obliterators?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Bio organic stuff?

It looks like some kind of scaled or spiked vertebra coming out through the skin, and one of the cables also has spiked rings... i'd say something chaos-y, maybe Necromunda, maybe another thing that looks like it could be Dark Mechanicus but ultimately isn't. Perhaps another expansion for an upcoming board game, or something for Killteam.

Dark mech, that gives me the vibe of that new arks thingy charachter being.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Dark mech, that gives me the vibe of that new arks thingy charachter being

Except that doesn't look like Vashtorr cables or any other Chaos model I can think of. Funnily enough, my first thought was Necrons:

I'm going out on a wild limb and saying Orks.I can't explain exactly why or how, but I feel like I've seen the upper pipes before building something Orky.

Plus the attachment part looks like the "suspenders" bit Boyz used to have.

Ripped cloth over spines, says GSC to me, likely linked to the ripped stuff over clawed hand from a few weeks/months/I can't remember back.

This one:

It was 25th Oct.

I think it'll be a Necromunda vehicle.

Necromunda or some demon engine?

The rumored-but-never-materialized 'chaos marine bikes' is my guess.

Redone in a helbrute style, because reasons.

 Olthannon wrote:
I think it'll be a Necromunda vehicle.

Yeah, it looks quite Van Saar esque to me and we know they are due one

Voss wrote:
The rumored-but-never-materialized 'chaos marine bikes' is my guess.

Redone in a helbrute style, because reasons.

Chaos Space Marine Biketaurs?

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

Voss wrote:
The rumored-but-never-materialized 'chaos marine bikes' is my guess.

Redone in a helbrute style, because reasons.

Chaos Space Marine Biketaurs?

Unironically awesome

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

Voss wrote:
The rumored-but-never-materialized 'chaos marine bikes' is my guess.

Redone in a helbrute style, because reasons.

Chaos Space Marine Biketaurs?

I can definitely see Emperor's children getting some weird pseudo motorcentaurs

Seriously though, the curved spikes looks alot like the ones on the back of the mangler squigg.

So, I guess, Chaos Squats riding cyber enhanced squiggs!

It's a weird Eldar Ranger...

OK, let's stop being silly.

It's Hrud for Kill Team.

 Geifer wrote:
OK, let's stop being silly.

It's Hrud for Kill Team.

Riding a plastic Thunderhawk, also for Kill Team

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
OK, let's stop being silly.

It's Hrud for Kill Team.

Riding a plastic Thunderhawk, also for Kill Team

That's Sanguinius reborn you're talking about. That'll be in another Kill Team box.

I'm uncharacteristically serious about Hrud, though. I know of two pictures of them. The robed Skaven in space from the 3rd ed rulebook and the illustration in Xenology. I'm not sure GW would feel beholden to those if they actually designed Hrud miniatures, especially considering they don't even look all that compatible with each other. I think they'd adopt long standing themes but take more liberties with the physical features. Same as they did with the not-so-Squats.

The rumor engine shows something raggedy that looks like it may have had some warp exposure and that uses a moderate level of technology (as in, Imperial or Orky in look or function, nothing fancy like Eldar or Necrons). That sounds like a fit for Hrud. Granted, that's not a description unique to them and I'm not saying it's definitely Hrud, but it may be as close as we've ever gotten.

 Geifer wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
OK, let's stop being silly.

It's Hrud for Kill Team.

Riding a plastic Thunderhawk, also for Kill Team

That's Sanguinius reborn you're talking about. That'll be in another Kill Team box.

I'm uncharacteristically serious about Hrud, though. I know of two pictures of them. The robed Skaven in space from the 3rd ed rulebook and the illustration in Xenology. I'm not sure GW would feel beholden to those if they actually designed Hrud miniatures, especially considering they don't even look all that compatible with each other. I think they'd adopt long standing themes but take more liberties with the physical features. Same as they did with the not-so-Squats.

The rumor engine shows something raggedy that looks like it may have had some warp exposure and that uses a moderate level of technology (as in, Imperial or Orky in look or function, nothing fancy like Eldar or Necrons). That sounds like a fit for Hrud. Granted, that's not a description unique to them and I'm not saying it's definitely Hrud, but it may be as close as we've ever gotten.

The Xenology example is labelled as an artist's impression, apparently Hrud are very difficult to get a clear look at and their corpses rapidly rot into an unrecognisable mess. Sounds like some kind of warp miasma to go along with their time warping effects.

Basically any models would have a lot of leeway to deviate from the existing designs due to those being from unreliable in-universe sources.

I like how with GW doing 'signature look' of cabling (besides thinnest, most basic ones) these days to the point you can identify most factions by cables (it's not foolproof but it works in 95% of cases) you can link recent mini with identical part and yet people will keep guessing stuff with drastically different look that makes no sense whatsoever

 Geifer wrote:
The rumor engine shows something raggedy

It shows torn skin with something harder, perhaps metallic, peering from underneath. Now, that faction likes to wear flayed, torn skins?

that uses a moderate level of technology (as in, Imperial or Orky in look or function, nothing fancy like Eldar or Necrons). That sounds like a fit for Hrud. Granted, that's not a description unique to them and I'm not saying it's definitely Hrud, but it may be as close as we've ever gotten

Um, no. All factions that use these banded cables tend to be extremely high tech. Necrons, Admech, Van Saar, pretty much all of them are at the top of the heap. Granted, Hrud are supposed to be really advanced species too but they build their stuff out of refuse and junk so it should look like skaven or orky contraption, not something that was purposefully, carefully machined in factory. Two identical cables instead of random ones exclude quite a bit of 40K races design language.

 Irbis wrote:
I like how with GW doing 'signature look' of cabling (besides thinnest, most basic ones) these days to the point you can identify most factions by cables (it's not foolproof but it works in 95% of cases) you can link recent mini with identical part and yet people will keep guessing stuff with drastically different look that makes no sense whatsoever

 Geifer wrote:
The rumor engine shows something raggedy

It shows torn skin with something harder, perhaps metallic, peering from underneath. Now, that faction likes to wear flayed, torn skins?

that uses a moderate level of technology (as in, Imperial or Orky in look or function, nothing fancy like Eldar or Necrons). That sounds like a fit for Hrud. Granted, that's not a description unique to them and I'm not saying it's definitely Hrud, but it may be as close as we've ever gotten

Um, no. All factions that use these banded cables tend to be extremely high tech. Necrons, Admech, Van Saar, pretty much all of them are at the top of the heap. Granted, Hrud are supposed to be really advanced species too but they build their stuff out of refuse and junk so it should look like skaven or orky contraption, not something that was purposefully, carefully machined in factory. Two identical cables instead of random ones exclude quite a bit of 40K races design language.

Do we know that about Hrud? There is a xenos race of junkers but they are not Hrud. As far as I am aware, Hrud gear is manufactured.

To me it looks like Van Saar.