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Someone hammered the report button hard on this one, but got to know.. what does "TransNid" mean whenever I see it pop up in the leaked codex rumours.

 BrookM wrote:
Someone hammered the report button hard on this one, but got to know.. what does "TransNid" mean whenever I see it pop up in the leaked codex rumours.

I’ve been assuming from context that it means “Transhuman Physiology but for Tyranids” i.e. an ability that restricts wound rolls to a specific minimum value.

Ahhhh, cheers.

Just what the game needed. More Transhuman-like rules.

 BrookM wrote:
Someone hammered the report button hard on this one...

You've got to be kidding me?

Well someone on Reddit posted pictures of the new repackaged tyrant box and it has the current termagants and Hormagaunts on the back so new sculpts seemingly aren't coming.
Looks like book and Parasite are what we are getting. Not a great surprise but a bit of shame.
I think we will still get something through Killteam- maybe Lictors?

 silverstu wrote:
Well someone on Reddit posted pictures of the new repackaged tyrant box and it has the current termagants and Hormagaunts on the back so new sculpts seemingly aren't coming.
Looks like book and Parasite are what we are getting. Not a great surprise but a bit of shame.
I think we will still get something through Killteam- maybe Lictors?

I wouldn't rule out new pushfit gaunts in our Combat Patrol, with the current multipart kits remaining on sale. We have the same plastic/points ratio issue as Orks, and that seems like a solid solution to getting more models into the starter box.

Am I the only one that find the drastic changes to synaptic links a bit weird? I wouldve thought, theyll keep them like they are and not invalidate the campaign book rules like that(and yeah, I know they do this. But they are not that old and I find it odd.)

Bago wrote:
Am I the only one that find the drastic changes to synaptic links a bit weird? I wouldve thought, theyll keep them like they are and not invalidate the campaign book rules like that(and yeah, I know they do this. But they are not that old and I find it odd.)

The Psychic Awakening books were basically just a bunch of beta rules for 9E codexes, I'm not sure why anyone would expect something different from the Warzone books. The main surprise isn't that the rules being replaced, it's getting the Tyranid codex out of nowhere after six months rather than 12+ months.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just what the game needed. More Transhuman-like rules.

 BrookM wrote:
Someone hammered the report button hard on this one...

You've got to be kidding me?

Hopefully BrookM can explain to whomever that the term isn't a slur and has nothing to do with transgender people.

And yeah, transhuman physiology seems to have become the go-to fix for 40ks lethality problem.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 xttz wrote:


A bunch of Nid kits including the combat patrol are now no longer available, the great reboxing has begun.

That typically happens ~4 weeks out from release, yeah?

The great reboxing was happening 3-4 weeks ago. I ordered a Harpy and some Warriors then. I'm -still- waiting on them as they've been out of stock/temporarily unavailable on GW's site for a while. Iirc the Harpy and Exocrine finally got posted late this week and the rest should be coming next week.

Promise me you'll post new datasheets if they're in the box. Just the warriors one should confirm these rumours.

I've been eagerly waiting them with pure frustration.

Harpy and Exocrine I hope to get tomorrow. Warriors are apparently dispatched but the store is waiting for them still - hopefully will arrive so can be posted out with another order that went in last week for odds and ends I needed (Slann, Kroxigor, Soul Grinder for friend, Venomthropes and Toxicrene/Maleceptor.)

So if they have been reboxed and the Warriors do show I'll, with luck be able to post up the box sheets for the Harpy/Crone, Warriors, Venomthropes/Zoanthropes and Toxicrene/Maleceptor.

So, update.

Harpy/Crone was not repackaged - boo hiss. Must have gotten one of the very last ones of the old packaging.

Exocrine/Haruspex IS repackaged. Sheet is the same as those seen, so they're not elaborate photoshops!

Observations of Sheet profiles.

Haruspex

Increased movement (8" instead of 7")
Improved WS/BS (3+ instead of 4+)
2 more Wounds.(W15 instead of 13)
Extra Attack
Extra point of Ld
2+ Save instead of 3+.

Movement, WS and BS degrade - Strength does not! Currently Strength degrades but movement does not!


Exocrine

Increased movement
Improved WS/BS
3 more wounds (W15 instead of 12)
Extra point of Ld
2+ Save

Same degrading stats as Haruspex.

 silverstu wrote:
Well someone on Reddit posted pictures of the new repackaged tyrant box and it has the current termagants and Hormagaunts on the back so new sculpts seemingly aren't coming.

Hopefully these are fake. It would be a kick in tha balls if we would not get new Troops when Eldar/Orks/Necrons got theirs.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 silverstu wrote:
Well someone on Reddit posted pictures of the new repackaged tyrant box and it has the current termagants and Hormagaunts on the back so new sculpts seemingly aren't coming.

Hopefully these are fake. It would be a kick in tha balls if we would not get new Troops when Eldar/Orks/Necrons got theirs.

Tau didn't get new fire warrior or kroot. Fire warriors still have the wonky mis-cast legs from 2000.

Fire Warriors were redone in 7th

 Kanluwen wrote:
Fire Warriors were redone in 7th

Fire warriors got an extra sprue. The model is the same one from 2000.

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 silverstu wrote:
Well someone on Reddit posted pictures of the new repackaged tyrant box and it has the current termagants and Hormagaunts on the back so new sculpts seemingly aren't coming.

Hopefully these are fake. It would be a kick in tha balls if we would not get new Troops when Eldar/Orks/Necrons got theirs.

Tau didn't get new fire warrior or kroot. Fire warriors still have the wonky mis-cast legs from 2000.

Uh, what? The Breacher team is much more recent than that and it’s a dual kit with the Strike team and the new turret jobber.
Kroot though? Yeah, same ol’ kit from way back when. But no-one cares about Kroot. Except the “Kroot army when?” people of course. But mostly not people who play Tau for shooty guns and robits.
Maybe that’s what they should do? Make Kroot a full-fledged (bird puns!) army of their own and replace the old Carnivore kit then.

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 silverstu wrote:
Well someone on Reddit posted pictures of the new repackaged tyrant box and it has the current termagants and Hormagaunts on the back so new sculpts seemingly aren't coming.

Hopefully these are fake. It would be a kick in tha balls if we would not get new Troops when Eldar/Orks/Necrons got theirs.

Tau didn't get new fire warrior or kroot. Fire warriors still have the wonky mis-cast legs from 2000.

Theres a rumour new Kroot are coming [id assume via a Killteam set]. Mind you its in the same set of rumours from the Valrak source that predicted new Gants/Gaunts -although they got a new Nid dex in march seemingly right and out of nowhere.

Early days yet I suppose, could be an Ork type troop refresh - the Gants and Gaunts aren't exactly super posable anyway and its not like Nids are particularly different from each other. Could work maybe a 5 gant/5 gaunt box with a ripper base like the original box set. two boxes gives you a basic size brood and they can bend into existing collections or the existing boxes.

I'd really love a new multi pose kit of something as from a modelling point of view you get so much more out of those kits. Not holding my breath though!

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Fire Warriors were redone in 7th

Fire warriors got an extra sprue. The model is the same one from 2000.

Have you actually looked at the Fire Warrior Strike Team/Breacher Team?

They are not the same kit.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 silverstu wrote:
Well someone on Reddit posted pictures of the new repackaged tyrant box and it has the current termagants and Hormagaunts on the back so new sculpts seemingly aren't coming.

Hopefully these are fake. It would be a kick in tha balls if we would not get new Troops when Eldar/Orks/Necrons got theirs.

Tau didn't get new fire warrior or kroot. Fire warriors still have the wonky mis-cast legs from 2000.

Uh, what? The Breacher team is much more recent than that and it’s a dual kit with the Strike team and the new turret jobber.
Kroot though? Yeah, same ol’ kit from way back when. But no-one cares about Kroot. Except the “Kroot army when?” people of course. But mostly not people who play Tau for shooty guns and robits.
Maybe that’s what they should do? Make Kroot a full-fledged (bird puns!) army of their own and replace the old Carnivore kit then.

Breacher team is a additional sprue to the strike team. The strike team is the original 2000s sculpts. Its why they have the same flaws in the same spots as the ones I bought in 2000.

Smudgy thigh pads and half formed shin guards....barf.

 silverstu wrote:

Theres a rumour new Kroot are coming [id assume via a Killteam set]. Mind you its in the same set of rumours from the Valrak source that predicted new Gants/Gaunts -although they got a new Nid dex in march seemingly right and out of nowhere.

Early days yet I suppose, could be an Ork type troop refresh - the Gants and Gaunts aren't exactly super posable anyway and its not like Nids are particularly different from each other. Could work maybe a 5 gant/5 gaunt box with a ripper base like the original box set. two boxes gives you a basic size brood and they can bend into existing collections or the existing boxes.

I'd really love a new multi pose kit of something as from a modelling point of view you get so much more out of those kits. Not holding my breath though!

Multi-pose Gants/Gaunts would be...kind of pointless I feel? They're one of those units, like Cultists, Necron Warriors, and Conscripts, which would benefit from an easy-build box chocked full of models with arm options.

 BrotherGecko wrote:

Breacher team is a additional sprue to the strike team. The strike team is the original 2000s sculpts. Its why they have the same flaws in the same spots as the ones I bought in 2000.

Smudgy thigh pads and half formed shin guards....barf.

This is impossible to be true unless you have a DeLorean that can hit 88 MPH. The Breacher parts are on the same sprues as the rest of the parts.

This Tau Fire Warriors thing is like the Mandela effect or something. I quick search on the website for the new sprues disproves it's just the same old fire warrior sprues (breacher parts on the legs/torso sprue). Maybe you're thinking of the pathfinders, since they got the upgrade sprue. But they had a much more modern core sprue anyway.

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 silverstu wrote:
Well someone on Reddit posted pictures of the new repackaged tyrant box and it has the current termagants and Hormagaunts on the back so new sculpts seemingly aren't coming.

Hopefully these are fake. It would be a kick in tha balls if we would not get new Troops when Eldar/Orks/Necrons got theirs.

Tau didn't get new fire warrior or kroot. Fire warriors still have the wonky mis-cast legs from 2000.

Uh, what? The Breacher team is much more recent than that and it’s a dual kit with the Strike team and the new turret jobber.
Kroot though? Yeah, same ol’ kit from way back when. But no-one cares about Kroot. Except the “Kroot army when?” people of course. But mostly not people who play Tau for shooty guns and robits.
Maybe that’s what they should do? Make Kroot a full-fledged (bird puns!) army of their own and replace the old Carnivore kit then.

Breacher team is a additional sprue to the strike team. The strike team is the original 2000s sculpts. Its why they have the same flaws in the same spots as the ones I bought in 2000.

Smudgy thigh pads and half formed shin guards....barf.

No, they’re not. The whole kit was redone. The design is the same, but the sculpts and sprues are all new.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 silverstu wrote:
Well someone on Reddit posted pictures of the new repackaged tyrant box and it has the current termagants and Hormagaunts on the back so new sculpts seemingly aren't coming.

Hopefully these are fake. It would be a kick in tha balls if we would not get new Troops when Eldar/Orks/Necrons got theirs.

Tau didn't get new fire warrior or kroot. Fire warriors still have the wonky mis-cast legs from 2000.

Uh, what? The Breacher team is much more recent than that and it’s a dual kit with the Strike team and the new turret jobber.
Kroot though? Yeah, same ol’ kit from way back when. But no-one cares about Kroot. Except the “Kroot army when?” people of course. But mostly not people who play Tau for shooty guns and robits.
Maybe that’s what they should do? Make Kroot a full-fledged (bird puns!) army of their own and replace the old Carnivore kit then.

Breacher team is a additional sprue to the strike team. The strike team is the original 2000s sculpts. Its why they have the same flaws in the same spots as the ones I bought in 2000.

Smudgy thigh pads and half formed shin guards....barf.

No, they’re not. The whole kit was redone. The design is the same, but the sculpts and sprues are all new.

Agreed, you can see both Fire Warrior and Breacher parts on the same sprue, it's been redone.

As someone who has been in Tau since the beginning and has built several hundred firewarriors minis, I can confirm that the Tau Firewarriors were 100% redone in 7th and the current kit is not the same as the ones from the early 2000s. Here are some images of what the original unit sprues look like (sorry ebay listings I found through google images - not mine, wasn't able to link the images otherwise because of work firewall):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353838967106?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174874405146?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28

Compare those sprues to the new ones:

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Tau-Fire-Warriors-Breacher-Team-2017

and you'll see it isn't possible that its the same kit, nor is it the case that they recut the existing sprues to add additional bits

Tyranids badly need new Guunts and Genestealers.

 dan2026 wrote:
Tyranids badly need more expensive, lower head count, full monopose new Guunts and Genestealers.

FTFY

Wouldn't mind new genestealers, but I would think that GW would drop those with the GSC book rather than the nids book.

The current Termagant and Hormagaunt kits are 22 years old this year according to the sprues (says copyright 2000), so hard to say that they have any real life left in them, definitely due for a re-do.

 dan2026 wrote:
Tyranids badly need new Guunts and Genestealers.

Yes they do- the Orks had their sprues tweaked before [with added nob and special weapons?].
And yes they don't even need to be too complex as Nid players run hordes of them, some body variations across the set, the heads possible like they are currently and sets of arms and a way you go. The current ones aren't really posable anyway - all I do is take a heat gun to the tails and add subtle bends and it makes them much more dynamic.


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chaos0xomega wrote:
Wouldn't mind new genestealers, but I would think that GW would drop those with the GSC book rather than the nids book.

Could see Stealers as a Killteam actually with bio morphs for specialists and plus with brood telepathy they can act independently , it would be very fluffy and possibly more likely than a Lictor team?

Dudeface wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
Tyranids badly need more expensive, lower head count, full monopose new Guunts and Genestealers.

FTFY

More expensive and lower head count are definite downsides, but the existing kit is already basically monopose so hard to say that theres a downside there. Personally, if its a chaff unit that I need to assemble a hundred of I'm totally onboard with them being push-fit monopose minis that go together fast.


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Yeah, I think a GSC kill team seems more likely than a lictor kill team IMO.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
Tyranids badly need more expensive, lower head count, full monopose new Guunts and Genestealers.

FTFY

More expensive and lower head count are definite downsides, but the existing kit is already basically monopose so hard to say that theres a downside there. Personally, if its a chaff unit that I need to assemble a hundred of I'm totally onboard with them being push-fit monopose minis that go together fast.


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Yeah, I think a GSC kill team seems more likely than a lictor kill team IMO.

Just be wary of the boyz treatment, you don't want a £32 box of 10 gaunts armed with 2 devourers, 3 pairs of spinefists and 5 fleshborers for example.

True. I was on board with the new boyz kit right up until it became apparent that it didn't give you enough weapons to consistently kit out the squad with basic weapons. The idea that a gant/gaunt redo (honestly, they should just both be gants or gaunts, the slight difference in name between them irks me and IMO was the result of a typo way back when that stuck) would come as a combi-kit where you build 2 with devourers, 3 w spinefists, 2 with fleshborers, and then 3 with hormagaunt scything talons scares me - mainly because I only really want hormagaunts and not termagants.