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Love the modell and like the rule. Nice flavor, with the infestation and rippers bursting out of the victims

Bago wrote:
Love the modell and like the rule. Nice flavor, with the infestation and rippers bursting out of the victims

Which isn't always lethal!

If it does 2 MW in a phase, you make a Ripper Swarm, and it doesn't work on vehicles. But it DOES work on things like Gravis Marines or Commissars.

I would have preffered a shrike kit also, to go along the warriors on foot and raveners.
But this is what we have... GW does, what we call in France "le service minimum" in terms of miniature novelty.
From the look of it, this parasite will fit on a single plastic sprue. There is not a great deal of work and thought put in here.

However...
Maybe the big bugs from 2014, that had underwhelming rules, will have better rules now, and see some play.
Maybe a much wider of the army will see serious play.

 JNAProductions wrote:

Bago wrote:
Love the modell and like the rule. Nice flavor, with the infestation and rippers bursting out of the victims

Which isn't always lethal!

If it does 2 MW in a phase, you make a Ripper Swarm, and it doesn't work on vehicles. But it DOES work on things like Gravis Marines or Commissars.

Now I want to put a Commissar cap on a ripper. Probably the one from the ‘stealer sprue that’s more standing upright.

Not one claw backwards swarm-brothers. Onward to the biomass! Glory to the four-armed Emperor!

<SKREEEEE>

Great-looking model! And fluffy rules. I’m in!

Loosing ObSec when wounded by the parasite might be a big thing, especially in the endgame.

A new Tyranids without a big, grinning mouth and snarling tongue? Count me in! Love the headsculpt on this one!

Rules look poor though. It will depend on his regular attacks to see if it's a potential treat, or if he's just a flying Lictor. The mouth looks like a gun of some sort too, maybe some shooting attacks in there.

The special tail attack (singular) at a mighty -1 PA will occurs like, never, with bunch of rules you'll never remember because you'll use it once every blue moon.

I like it. Looks like a fun model to add to my collection.

 Skywave wrote:
A new Tyranids without a big, grinning mouth and snarling tongue? Count me in! Love the headsculpt on this one!

Rules look poor though. It will depend on his regular attacks to see if it's a potential treat, or if he's just a flying Lictor. The mouth looks like a gun of some sort too, maybe some shooting attacks in there.

The special tail attack (singular) at a mighty -1 PA will occurs like, never, with bunch of rules you'll never remember because you'll use it once every blue moon.

The AP isn't very relevant, the rule applies as long as you successfully wound the target, regardless of if they save or ignore the damage.

 Tyran wrote:

 Skywave wrote:
A new Tyranids without a big, grinning mouth and snarling tongue? Count me in! Love the headsculpt on this one!

Rules look poor though. It will depend on his regular attacks to see if it's a potential treat, or if he's just a flying Lictor. The mouth looks like a gun of some sort too, maybe some shooting attacks in there.

The special tail attack (singular) at a mighty -1 PA will occurs like, never, with bunch of rules you'll never remember because you'll use it once every blue moon.

The AP isn't very relevant, the rule applies as long as you successfully wound the target, regardless of if they save or ignore the damage.

Right! Misread that, that's much better then and more useful! I'm gonna get the model anyway but even better if it's a great utility unit!

Honestly though, I was going to run some crusade with Nids using their new book but with their only new model being something I could do better with bits & green stuff, it takes the wind out of my sails. Doubly so for it being a single special character. Triply so for reading more excessively bloated rules that have no justification for being that way. It all feeds into that feeling of GW being completely disconnected from the state of 40k, or even the path of their business. It is not that hard to do better. Hell, it would be harder to do worse.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Honestly though, I was going to run some crusade with Nids using their new book but with their only new model being something I could do better with bits & green stuff, it takes the wind out of my sails. Doubly so for it being a single special character. Triply so for reading more excessively bloated rules that have no justification for being that way. It all feeds into that feeling of GW being completely disconnected from the state of 40k, or even the path of their business. It is not that hard to do better. Hell, it would be harder to do worse.

"Dear GW, I'd like you to make a nid kit that doesn't look like a tyranid or use any common tyranid parts/aesthetics. It must be a generic unit you can spam. All of its rules and weapons must be bland and easily understood at face value. If you fail to do this then you're undeserving of anyone's money."

I'm looking forwards to all these kitbashed parasites that don't look any better.

Dudeface wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Honestly though, I was going to run some crusade with Nids using their new book but with their only new model being something I could do better with bits & green stuff, it takes the wind out of my sails. Doubly so for it being a single special character. Triply so for reading more excessively bloated rules that have no justification for being that way. It all feeds into that feeling of GW being completely disconnected from the state of 40k, or even the path of their business. It is not that hard to do better. Hell, it would be harder to do worse.

"Dear GW, I'd like you to make a nid kit that doesn't look like a tyranid or use any common tyranid parts/aesthetics. It must be a generic unit you can spam. All of its rules and weapons must be bland and easily understood at face value. If you fail to do this then you're undeserving of anyone's money."

I'm looking forwards to all these kitbashed parasites that don't look any better.

Would be nice to try to keep the thread clean off this errrr intolerance to different opinions.

Tyranid fans have much to complain in therms of releases yet they haven't and besides if your worth your salt as a tyranid fan you would know that during these past decades we have one of the most active kit bash/sculpt communities and if you google now you will find the parasite converted and re sculpted by us.
Some look better than this for sure, but taste is relative, what is not relative is your negativity towards any capacity of someone else apart from GW to do a parasite.

Like I said I like the model but some parts are kind of messy.

I just don't like how his legs start out as insectoid and segmented and terminate into tentacles at the wrist.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I just don't like how his legs start out as insectoid and segmented and terminate into tentacles at the wrist.

Yes that is the worst offender to me too and looks off scale, the original concept art was with Talons on the legs not tentacles so that looks much better.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Honestly though, I was going to run some crusade with Nids using their new book but with their only new model being something I could do better with bits & green stuff, it takes the wind out of my sails. Doubly so for it being a single special character. Triply so for reading more excessively bloated rules that have no justification for being that way. It all feeds into that feeling of GW being completely disconnected from the state of 40k, or even the path of their business. It is not that hard to do better. Hell, it would be harder to do worse.

How can they be disconnected? They have a Facebook page now!!!

But yeah, it's the type of rules that can only come about from a group of people that play a different game to the rest of... oh wait that's exactly what GW are like!

So what do we think? Too big a model to be locked in a dual box? Of all the "one character in addition to new codex" models, nothing appeared single first, right? Infernal master&crowe, GSC saboteur & Custodes dude. So what will be the dual tyrabox or will we be able to buy him separately from the beginning?

Bago wrote:
So what do we think? Too big a model to be locked in a dual box? Of all the "one character in addition to new codex" models, nothing appeared single first, right? Infernal master&crowe, GSC saboteur & Custodes dude. So what will be the dual tyrabox or will we be able to buy him separately from the beginning?

The Skitarii Marshal came out in a clamp-pack directly alongside the Codex.

Bago wrote:
So what do we think? Too big a model to be locked in a dual box? Of all the "one character in addition to new codex" models, nothing appeared single first, right? Infernal master&crowe, GSC saboteur & Custodes dude. So what will be the dual tyrabox or will we be able to buy him separately from the beginning?

A few codexes had single characters released alongside them: Death Guard, Admech, Tau off the top of my head.

There hasn't been any rumours or hints of a battle box here so PoM is likely to be an immediate single release too.

 xttz wrote:

Bago wrote:
So what do we think? Too big a model to be locked in a dual box? Of all the "one character in addition to new codex" models, nothing appeared single first, right? Infernal master&crowe, GSC saboteur & Custodes dude. So what will be the dual tyrabox or will we be able to buy him separately from the beginning?

A few codexes had single characters released alongside them: Death Guard, Admech, Tau off the top of my head.

There hasn't been any rumours or hints of a battle box here so PoM is likely to be an immediate single release too.

Probably Dex, cards, dices, Mortrex and Combat Patrol box.

While it's nice to see the Parasite finally getting a model, GW have made some very strange design choices.

- As others have said, the tentacle-legs look very odd and certainly weren't in the original artwork.

- The head, too, is really weird. The original artwork had it looking like an elongated genestealer or gaunt head, with a row of spines/ridges on top. Now look at the actual model. The rear end looks like part of a Zoanthrope head, but the front looks like it was made entirely from greenstuff. I don't get that at all.

- Lastly, in terms of its pose, it seems really silly to have the ovipositor tail facing backwards. It's a more minor point but I would think it would work much better if it was facing forwards, in the direction it will actually be used.

The rules also seem overly long but whatever.

I think it looks good besides the noodle limbs. Rework those into claws using existing bits and it’s a perfectly fine model.

 vipoid wrote:
While it's nice to see the Parasite finally getting a model, GW have made some very strange design choices.

- As others have said, the tentacle-legs look very odd and certainly weren't in the original artwork.

I think that it's supposed to emulate octopus/squid manipulator tentacles (the two that hold prey in place when it delivers bite with its beak). As a design element it's debatable but it's nice GW moves away from one-dimensional stabby bug arm design. Especially seeing the original had no real way of attacking nimble targets and could only use tail in dive bombs. Hive mind is supposed to assimilate all genes, it using something else than a bug for once should be new norm, IMO.

- The head, too, is really weird. The original artwork had it looking like an elongated genestealer or gaunt head, with a row of spines/ridges on top. Now look at the actual model. The rear end looks like part of a Zoanthrope head, but the front looks like it was made entirely from greenstuff. I don't get that at all.

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Did people stopped watching classic movies or what? The head is literally a 1:1 copy of Alien Queen. You know, from Aliens. Down to teeth, lack of eyes, and 'crown' on top. Weird? What?

- Lastly, in terms of its pose, it seems really silly to have the ovipositor tail facing backwards. It's a more minor point but I would think it would work much better if it was facing forwards, in the direction it will actually be used.

The rules also seem overly long but whatever.

Erm, that's literally how all RL tails work. In addition, it needed a way to defend its back and to attack when it lands, tail works fine for both. As above, when it wants to attack target in front (like, funnily enough, Alien Queen), it can twist the tail like model does and let manipulator tentacles hold it in place to not harmlessly push the target away unlike the original design.

As for rules, I kind of miss the anti-infiltrator rules the original had. Would be nice to have them back to limit outflank/infiltrator spam.

Good point on the Octopus comparison, Irbis. That post was really helpful, I'm beginning to warm up to the wacky critter now.

 Irbis wrote:
Did people stopped watching classic movies or what? The head is literally a 1:1 copy of Alien Queen. You know, from Aliens. Down to teeth, lack of eyes, and 'crown' on top. Weird? What?

It also works as a callback to early era Tyranid designs (like Red Terror, or various Epic models). Which of course were likely inspired by the same movies.

Edit: here's the original 5E rules for anyone interested:

Yes there's also a touch of second edition warrior spinefists I the mouth design..
I think it will look much cooler once you have it in your hands. A different scheme will make it look even better as well.

Given the leaks/rumors with CSM and how you can no longer can equip units with options not in the box, does this mean HT with quad devourers will no longer be valid?

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
Given the leaks/rumors with CSM and how you can no longer can equip units with options not in the box, does this mean HT with quad devourers will no longer be valid?

We don't know- but the twin-linked Devourers from Forge World are also on last chance to buy, so it doesn't seem unlikely at the moment.

 Irbis wrote:

- The head, too, is really weird. The original artwork had it looking like an elongated genestealer or gaunt head, with a row of spines/ridges on top. Now look at the actual model. The rear end looks like part of a Zoanthrope head, but the front looks like it was made entirely from greenstuff. I don't get that at all.

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Did people stopped watching classic movies or what? The head is literally a 1:1 copy of Alien Queen. You know, from Aliens. Down to teeth, lack of eyes, and 'crown' on top. Weird? What?

Sigh.

Of course I've seen Aliens. But to call this a 1:1 copy is laughable.

You also completely ignores what I actually said. Please look again:



Specifically, look at the join:



It looks like someone took the front half of an Alien's head and the back half of a Zoanthrope's head and inexpertly mashed them together with green stuff to try and get roughly the same shape as the Alien Queen..

If that doesn't look off to you then I don't know what else to say.

There are loads of good 1:1 Alien queen heads around, in toys, in miniatures, statues, digital files etc etc

Mortrex is not one of them