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**kodos**

it is difficult to put it simple, but:

in the last years unions bargain for salary increases were told by "everyone" to ask for lower increase and keeping the numbers below the official inflation rates to prevent inflation to increase even more

so with high inflation numbers of 5%, workers should just get 3% compensation or even 0% to stabilize the economy

but corporations feel the need, despite still making more profit than ever, to raise prices above the inflation numbers to compensate for future possible loses

it is hard to say that this is not greed if workers should forgo compensation to help the society, but corporations do not

yes the inflation has many different reasons, but telling one group they need to help to keep it down and the other group does the opposite while telling people that they don't have a choice, well this is corporate greed

**Albertorius**

Rolsheen wrote:
It's funny people complaining about a 5% increase on GW stuff. Have you seen how much Coca Cola just increased their prices 40-50% on 2lt bottles

You seem to think that complaining about one thing doesn't allow you to complain about another. This is a miniatures forum. Why would you think it's more likely to see people complaining about soft drinks price increases instead of miniatures price increases?

**NAVARRO**

Albertorius wrote:
Rolsheen wrote:
It's funny people complaining about a 5% increase on GW stuff. Have you seen how much Coca Cola just increased their prices 40-50% on 2lt bottles

You seem to think that complaining about one thing doesn't allow you to complain about another. This is a miniatures forum. Why would you think it's more likely to see people complaining about soft drinks price increases instead of miniatures price increases?

This ^ XD

I think this time around these 5% and the absurd new boxed sets with the £100+ mark for just a handful of minis is pushing people out. Regiment boxes getting close to the £35 or £40 is just not something you want to buy multiples of.

I do find that if you drop all rulesets, all GW games and metas etc and just go for minis for other games that you dont need to buy multiples, its doable. Its the game side of GW that is ruining it IMO.

**Rolsheen**

Albertorius wrote:
Rolsheen wrote:
It's funny people complaining about a 5% increase on GW stuff. Have you seen how much Coca Cola just increased their prices 40-50% on 2lt bottles

You seem to think that complaining about one thing doesn't allow you to complain about another. This is a miniatures forum. Why would you think it's more likely to see people complaining about soft drinks price increases instead of miniatures price increases?

No, by all means you can complain about both, that's everyone's right.
I don't expect people to complain about a soft drinks company on a miniatures forum, I'm not stupid unlike some people on here. I'm simply pointing out that complaining on here is not going to get GW to reverse their decision, if you don't like it don't buy from them. Maybe do some research as to why they increased their prices before venting, like I did on the Cola price increase.

**NAVARRO**

Rolsheen wrote:
Albertorius wrote:
Rolsheen wrote:
It's funny people complaining about a 5% increase on GW stuff. Have you seen how much Coca Cola just increased their prices 40-50% on 2lt bottles

You seem to think that complaining about one thing doesn't allow you to complain about another. This is a miniatures forum. Why would you think it's more likely to see people complaining about soft drinks price increases instead of miniatures price increases?

No, by all means you can complain about both, that's everyone's right.
I don't expect people to complain about a soft drinks company on a miniatures forum, I'm not stupid unlike some people on here. I'm simply pointing out that complaining on here is not going to get GW to reverse their decision, if you don't like it don't buy from them. Maybe do some research as to why they increased their prices before venting, like I did on the Cola price increase.

Maybe try not to call people stupid on the same sentence you say your not... I mean I want to believe you but your making it hard

Your point is errr what exactly? GW won't change so dont post and dont buy? Oh and research before you have privilege to post your thoughts on a public forum about lil toys increasing prices...

**Ragweek**

We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

**lord_blackfang**

Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

Kicking off about corporations posting sob stories about how inflation is forcing them to raise prices while also posting all time record profits, dividends and manager bonuses.

**Ragweek**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

Kicking off about corporations posting sob stories about how inflation is forcing them to raise prices while also posting all time record profits, dividends and manager bonuses.

The situation is not linier. Believe it or not covid was around for 2 years now. To start off with it was deflationary, ( oil went to 0, poeple stayed at home, buying extra gw stuff = massive profits) . Since then things have exploded. People went back to normal life ish. We now hit the 30 year high inflation and in a capitalist country like ours ( I understand things may be differentin your neck of the woods). we have the supply vs demand thing going on.

To protect their business. Like may other similar businesses, prices have to rise.

**queen_annes_revenge**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

Kicking off about corporations posting sob stories about how inflation is forcing them to raise prices while also posting all time record profits, dividends and manager bonuses.

This. Also putting their products in fancy new packages.

**Wha-Mu-077**

Ragweek wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

Kicking off about corporations posting sob stories about how inflation is forcing them to raise prices while also posting all time record profits, dividends and manager bonuses.

The situation is not linier. Believe it or not covid was around for 2 years now. To start off with it was deflationary, ( oil went to 0, poeple stayed at home, buying extra gw stuff = massive profits) . Since then things have exploded. People went back to normal life ish. We now hit the 30 year high inflation and in a capitalist country like ours ( I understand things may be differentin your neck of the woods). we have the supply vs demand thing going on.

To protect their business. Like may other similar businesses, prices have to rise.

Orrr prices have to rise to keep their profits record-high every year, aye?

**ImAGeek**

Ragweek wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

Kicking off about corporations posting sob stories about how inflation is forcing them to raise prices while also posting all time record profits, dividends and manager bonuses.

The situation is not linier. Believe it or not covid was around for 2 years now. To start off with it was deflationary, ( oil went to 0, poeple stayed at home, buying extra gw stuff = massive profits) . Since then things have exploded. People went back to normal life ish. We now hit the 30 year high inflation and in a capitalist country like ours ( I understand things may be differentin your neck of the woods). we have the supply vs demand thing going on.

To protect their business. Like may other similar businesses, prices have to rise.

Even if ‘prices have to rise’ was in anyway true, what about Blood Bowl teams, for example, means they need to increase overnight by a fifth of their price?

**NAVARRO**

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

Kicking off about corporations posting sob stories about how inflation is forcing them to raise prices while also posting all time record profits, dividends and manager bonuses.

The situation is not linier. Believe it or not covid was around for 2 years now. To start off with it was deflationary, ( oil went to 0, poeple stayed at home, buying extra gw stuff = massive profits) . Since then things have exploded. People went back to normal life ish. We now hit the 30 year high inflation and in a capitalist country like ours ( I understand things may be differentin your neck of the woods). we have the supply vs demand thing going on.

To protect their business. Like may other similar businesses, prices have to rise.

Orrr prices have to rise to keep their profits record-high every year, aye?

With the intention to expand on those records even further. They say its capitalism or companies duty to protect their business. I call it something else.
GW is a company putting the pedal down on the accelerator rather than keeping it at cruise speed, do not think otherwise.

**angryboy2k**

Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

I think the real reason people are “kicking off” is that we’ve just come out of two years of non-stop price hikes for virtually no reason at all - the first of these coming at the beginning of Covid in a deflationary environment. The only game I play is underworlds, so it’s the only thing I’ve got info on, but since January 2020 we’ve seen warbands go from $35 to $39 to $45 to $50 (Canadian dollars). Now they’re going up again.
In the same timeframe we’ve seen starters go from $80 to $100 and now $125.
(Canadian prices exclude sales tax, which in BC is 12%, so the actual retail price of warbands has gone from $39.20 to $56. In pounds we’ve gone from £23 to £33 thanks to GW’s additional price padding through the use of fictitious exchange rates that also neglect the fact that the U.K. prices include VAT).

Add to this GW’s own investor reports making it clear that they’ve already padded the prices well enough to cover very large material cost increases and it shouldn’t be hard to see why GW latching onto this year’s inflation as an excuse to increase prices once again has annoyed those customers with a memory span longer than a week.

**Ragweek**

angryboy2k wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

I think the real reason people are “kicking off” is that we’ve just come out of two years of non-stop price hikes for virtually no reason at all - the first of these coming at the beginning of Covid in a deflationary environment. The only game I play is underworlds, so it’s the only thing I’ve got info on, but since January 2020 we’ve seen warbands go from $35 to $39 to $45 to $50 (Canadian dollars). Now they’re going up again.
In the same timeframe we’ve seen starters go from $80 to $100 and now $125.
(Canadian prices exclude sales tax, which in BC is 12%, so the actual retail price of warbands has gone from $39.20 to $56. In pounds we’ve gone from £23 to £33 thanks to GW’s additional price padding through the use of fictitious exchange rates that also neglect the fact that the U.K. prices include VAT).

Add to this GW’s own investor reports making it clear that they’ve already padded the prices well enough to cover very large material cost increases and it shouldn’t be hard to see why GW latching onto this year’s inflation as an excuse to increase prices once again and it shouldn’t be hard to see why customers with a memory span longer than a week are annoyed.

I must admit that the blood bowl increases are way above inflation. It really sucks to see the teams going up to around half the price of some third party teams. Also the warcry stuff is getting close to infinity prices . It feels like both systems were sold at lower rates to get people hooked. Now they se to be bringing it in line with other systems.

**Wha-Mu-077**

angryboy2k wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

I think the real reason people are “kicking off” is that we’ve just come out of two years of non-stop price hikes for virtually no reason at all - the first of these coming at the beginning of Covid in a deflationary environment. The only game I play is underworlds, so it’s the only thing I’ve got info on, but since January 2020 we’ve seen warbands go from $35 to $39 to $45 to $50 (Canadian dollars). Now they’re going up again.

In the same timeframe we’ve seen starters go from $80 to $100 and now $125.
(Canadian prices exclude sales tax, which in BC is 12%, so the actual retail price of warbands has gone from $39.20 to $56. In pounds we’ve gone from £23 to £33 thanks to GW’s additional price padding through the use of fictitious exchange rates that also neglect the fact that the U.K. prices include VAT).

Add to this GW’s own investor reports making it clear that they’ve already padded the prices well enough to cover very large material cost increases and it shouldn’t be hard to see why GW latching onto this year’s inflation as an excuse to increase prices once again and it shouldn’t be hard to see why customers with a memory span longer than a week are annoyed.

Man, the British economy must be in shambles, they have an around 25% yearly inflation rate!

**Ragweek**

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
angryboy2k wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

I think the real reason people are “kicking off” is that we’ve just come out of two years of non-stop price hikes for virtually no reason at all - the first of these coming at the beginning of Covid in a deflationary environment. The only game I play is underworlds, so it’s the only thing I’ve got info on, but since January 2020 we’ve seen warbands go from $35 to $39 to $45 to $50 (Canadian dollars). Now they’re going up again.

In the same timeframe we’ve seen starters go from $80 to $100 and now $125.
(Canadian prices exclude sales tax, which in BC is 12%, so the actual retail price of warbands has gone from $39.20 to $56. In pounds we’ve gone from £23 to £33 thanks to GW’s additional price padding through the use of fictitious exchange rates that also neglect the fact that the U.K. prices include VAT).

Add to this GW’s own investor reports making it clear that they’ve already padded the prices well enough to cover very large material cost increases and it shouldn’t be hard to see why GW latching onto this year’s inflation as an excuse to increase prices once again and it shouldn’t be hard to see why customers with a memory span longer than a week are annoyed.

Man, the British economy must be in shambles, they have an around 25% yearly inflation rate!

Nor sure where your getting your figures from. I understand the eu central bank still have their foot on the gas with money printing. So things will go bang their soon enough. The uk figure is around 5.5% inflation. And the US is 7.5% inflation.

Gw raise prices each year, like lego and a billion other things. Just don't buy it if you don't like it? Vote with your money as they saying goes.

**ImAGeek**

The classic saying, ‘vote with your wallet and never ever discuss why’.

**John Prins**

Blood Bowl going up that much probably means it wasn't very profitable in the first place. Somebody at GW did the math and decided it was under-costed for the effort. It seems like a lot of FW stuff is being judged that way.

But resin casting simply won't ever be as profitable as plastic casting. Seems like GW would be better off moving what kits they can to plastic and discontinuing the BIG resin items entirely. Titans and Mantas are cool and all but they're basically display pieces and they can't be shifting enough units to make it really worthwhile for them aside from corporate prestige/advertising.

**Wha-Mu-077**

Ragweek wrote:
Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
angryboy2k wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

I think the real reason people are “kicking off” is that we’ve just come out of two years of non-stop price hikes for virtually no reason at all - the first of these coming at the beginning of Covid in a deflationary environment. The only game I play is underworlds, so it’s the only thing I’ve got info on, but since January 2020 we’ve seen warbands go from $35 to $39 to $45 to $50 (Canadian dollars). Now they’re going up again.

In the same timeframe we’ve seen starters go from $80 to $100 and now $125.
(Canadian prices exclude sales tax, which in BC is 12%, so the actual retail price of warbands has gone from $39.20 to $56. In pounds we’ve gone from £23 to £33 thanks to GW’s additional price padding through the use of fictitious exchange rates that also neglect the fact that the U.K. prices include VAT).

Add to this GW’s own investor reports making it clear that they’ve already padded the prices well enough to cover very large material cost increases and it shouldn’t be hard to see why GW latching onto this year’s inflation as an excuse to increase prices once again and it shouldn’t be hard to see why customers with a memory span longer than a week are annoyed.

Man, the British economy must be in shambles, they have an around 25% yearly inflation rate!

Nor sure where your getting your figures from. I understand the eu central bank still have their foot on the gas with money printing. So things will go bang their soon enough. The uk figure is around 5.5% inflation. And the US is 7.5% inflation.

Gw raise prices each year, like lego and a billion other things. Just don't buy it if you don't like it? Vote with your money as they saying goes.

It's a joke about how the inflation would have to be around 25%, for the excuse of "they're just raising their prices because inflation!" to be true, given that's roughly by how much the Underworld starters have gone up by.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

John Prins wrote:
Blood Bowl going up that much probably means it wasn't very profitable in the first place. Somebody at GW did the math and decided it was under-costed for the effort. It seems like a lot of FW stuff is being judged that way.

But resin casting simply won't ever be as profitable as plastic casting. Seems like GW would be better off moving what kits they can to plastic and discontinuing the BIG resin items entirely. Titans and Mantas are cool and all but they're basically display pieces and they can't be shifting enough units to make it really worthwhile for them aside from corporate prestige/advertising.

Sorry to quote you, as this isn’t meant as an attack on your view in particular. More the wider assumption.

Blood Bowl, like all games made by anyone ever that has a profit motive, needs to pull its weight.

And Blood Bowl is the game GW in particular make which has a notably low price ceiling. Very generally speaking, perhaps a couple of team boxes per player. Not allowing for particular special characters.

That’s a price ceiling somewhat unheard of in GW’s offerings. Especially if like many you play in a league which could be any number of players, only one of whom needs to own the rule book.

It was also one of the first (if not the first) Specialist Games to return. We need only look to it’s ongoing support to be reasonably confident it’s been a success financially.

The assumption that “it wasn’t profitable in the first place” seems, by comparison, somewhat unfounded. And again, I’m not targeting you specifically. However, I’m perfectly willing to accept, concede and adopt the stance that “GW looked at it and figured ‘if we just up the prices, this game is more than profitable enough for us to make even more lovely lovely munneh’ and the players will pay it”.

Now. Of course. For absolute clarity. None of us here, and or does anyone outside of GW’s very own bean counters know that sort of breakdown, because GW don’t publish such things in such details. So I’m very much happy to be proven wrong, should such details somehow emerge.

TL/DR version? Be careful about assumptions, because us mere tosspots simply do not have anything like enough data to start drawing conclusion.

Finally? This Is Not Me Having A Pop At The Poster I Quoted. This Is Me Addressing A Wider Concern Of Possible Misinformation By Demonstrating Just How Little Solid Information Us Mere Plebs Have To Work With.

**Ragweek**

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
angryboy2k wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

I think the real reason people are “kicking off” is that we’ve just come out of two years of non-stop price hikes for virtually no reason at all - the first of these coming at the beginning of Covid in a deflationary environment. The only game I play is underworlds, so it’s the only thing I’ve got info on, but since January 2020 we’ve seen warbands go from $35 to $39 to $45 to $50 (Canadian dollars). Now they’re going up again.

In the same timeframe we’ve seen starters go from $80 to $100 and now $125.
(Canadian prices exclude sales tax, which in BC is 12%, so the actual retail price of warbands has gone from $39.20 to $56. In pounds we’ve gone from £23 to £33 thanks to GW’s additional price padding through the use of fictitious exchange rates that also neglect the fact that the U.K. prices include VAT).

Add to this GW’s own investor reports making it clear that they’ve already padded the prices well enough to cover very large material cost increases and it shouldn’t be hard to see why GW latching onto this year’s inflation as an excuse to increase prices once again and it shouldn’t be hard to see why customers with a memory span longer than a week are annoyed.

Man, the British economy must be in shambles, they have an around 25% yearly inflation rate!

Nor sure where your getting your figures from. I understand the eu central bank still have their foot on the gas with money printing. So things will go bang their soon enough. The uk figure is around 5.5% inflation. And the US is 7.5% inflation.

Gw raise prices each year, like lego and a billion other things. Just don't buy it if you don't like it? Vote with your money as they saying goes.

It's a joke about how the inflation would have to be around 25%, for the excuse of "they're just raising their prices because inflation!" to be true, given that's roughly by how much the Underworld starters have gone up by.

Classic joke! You do realise that 5.5% is the average in the UK. Some things have gone up in the UK by the amount you state and I would wager in your country too.
Energy bills were a big driving force behind December’s CPI inflation rate, with prices of electricity, gas and other fuels up by 22.7% compared to last year.
Energy prices are critical as they effect everyone.
However it would be a pain in the ass to say x has gone up by..... and y has ......

That's why governments and GW use averages.

**Samko**

Dudeface wrote:
I'm sorry for posting a spikey bits link but I've not seen this anywhere else yet.

https://spikeybits.com/2022/02/the-list-of-over-3000-new-gw-price-increases-for-warhammer.html

Might as well have some prices to discuss rather than our financial morality debates.

Is there a list for the prices change in € too ?

**John Prins**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

The assumption that “it wasn’t profitable in the first place” seems, by comparison, somewhat unfounded.

Minor quibble in return, I said "Wasn't very profitable." I assumed Blood Bowl was profitable.

**JWBS**

I just checked my Alchemist Workshop basket and they seem to have bumped their prices up already. I must say I find this to be rather slimy behaviour tbh. In fact I'm irritated enough to strike them from my list of retailers. I'm surprised by how annoyed I am

**Dudeface**

Samko wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
I'm sorry for posting a spikey bits link but I've not seen this anywhere else yet.

https://spikeybits.com/2022/02/the-list-of-over-3000-new-gw-price-increases-for-warhammer.html

Might as well have some prices to discuss rather than our financial morality debates.

Is there a list for the prices change in € too ?

I've not seen one anywhere, only that one in $$$.

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queen_annes_revenge wrote:

This. Also putting their products in fancy new packages.

Really? I really doubt this costs them that much nor drives prices up overly. They need to remove old stock and update the manuals with new releases, it'll likely require a new box (unsure of legality) at that point anyway, so the only real additional wastage is the change to the printed imagery.

**AngryAngel80**

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
you were buying 20 Cadians for $35 5-7 years ago?

Yeah the same kit from then, that somehow is costing them leaps and bounds more to make which is bogus. How much has that kit gone up ? Like about 150% higher ? Dang, inflation am I right ? Give me a break.

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drbored wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Tangentially related: Facebook has started flagging posts blaming inflation on corporate greed as fake news.

https://nypost.com/2022/02/17/facebook-instagram-put-fact-checks-on-certain-inflation-posts/

Oh I know I'm treading a fine line here. Let's see, how best to explain it.

Inflation right now is currently being driven by two major forces. The normal 4-5% inflation is what we'd expect from the Federal Reserve Bank (which, despite the name, is actually a private entity that has managed to take control of the US dollar).

The other 2-4% of the inflation we've seen over the past two years has been due to supply issues (yes, supply issues caused by covid, but supply issues nonetheless). Scarcity drives prices up, and that goes for everything. On top of that, you've got shortages of drivers to deliver product, boats having to be rerouted across whole oceans just to offload their stuff, and even an issue where a boat in the Atlantic caught fire and is loaded full of VW and Porsche vehicles that now, due to maritime law, is 'finders keepers'. Yes, this is a real thing that just happened.

Saying all of inflation is due to corporate greed is very misleading, because there are real world issues out there right now that are contributing to a large portion of that inflation.
Other factors include overleveraging of banks and hedgefunds, RRP being over 160 billion dollars (a rate of leverage used by banks to increase liquidity), as well as huge Chinese land developers hitting hundreds of billions of dollars of bankruptcy... There's a lot involved that honestly has little to do with corporate greed.

One bigger reason that many businesses are making money hand over fist is because they're paying the same amount of money for their workers (wages haven't increased much over the past 20 years) and they're paying fewer of them (how many food joints are drive-thru only still?) and working those that are there even harder, causing higher turn-over. This drives profit up because of lack of expense, while spending habits haven't changed despite the pandemic.

There are many other issues that can be extrapolated from this, but I think that summary should suffice for this forum.

Oh, and to the point about 'we have a loyal customer base that isn't going to jump to another brand' are they wrong? Set aside the denizens of Dakkadakka, are they really wrong that they've managed to create a brand that people tend to stick around in? How many stories have I heard of people that play as kids only to come back in their 30's or 40's or even 50's to get back into the hobby, or people that have been hobbying for decades. Yeah, those people may have sizeable collections of other miniature brands, but Warhammer plays a big role.

Sure but they raise these prices every year higher than inflation, they just use these issues as the reason for it this time. If it was a once very rarely kind of thing I doubt people would raise as much of a stink but this is the meat of it. They do it just because it's been a year, now they are like " Oh and it's not bad this time because we have to ! " It's bogus and just a cop out for cheap sympathy for the devil.

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Rolsheen wrote:
Albertorius wrote:
Rolsheen wrote:
It's funny people complaining about a 5% increase on GW stuff. Have you seen how much Coca Cola just increased their prices 40-50% on 2lt bottles

You seem to think that complaining about one thing doesn't allow you to complain about another. This is a miniatures forum. Why would you think it's more likely to see people complaining about soft drinks price increases instead of miniatures price increases?

No, by all means you can complain about both, that's everyone's right.
I don't expect people to complain about a soft drinks company on a miniatures forum, I'm not stupid unlike some people on here. I'm simply pointing out that complaining on here is not going to get GW to reverse their decision, if you don't like it don't buy from them. Maybe do some research as to why they increased their prices before venting, like I did on the Cola price increase.

So Mr Wizard, if an online forum is not about discussing things you like and dislike of the subject matter, what is it for ? Just some empty void of fawning over a company and echo chamber of love for it ? It's a place for opinions, even ones some may dislike reading or acknowledging. For someone with such a low view of some of us, I'd expect you to know that. Guess understanding the feelings of your fellow posters is too expensive with all this inflation going around.

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lord_blackfang wrote:
Ragweek wrote:
We officially have the worse inflation figures in over 30 years. Not really sure why poeple are surprised/ kicking off, over price rises still. I think some poeple have too much time. It would be better spent painting their pile of shame

Kicking off about corporations posting sob stories about how inflation is forcing them to raise prices while also posting all time record profits, dividends and manager bonuses.

That's a bingo ! It's about calling out a company for their sob story when they do this literally year on year but this time cry the inflation made me do it. It's a bogus story when they would have done this if costs dropped across the board otherwise.

**techsoldaten**

2 special factors that affect GW PLC.

- Shrinkflation: the 5-man kits give you less than you got 5 years ago. You pay more for 2 boxes than you would for one.

- Optimized Pricing: let's say the cost per model for a 5 man kit is $10. The cost for a single character is $40. By gouging on the mandatory HQ, GW splits the difference in keeping the prices high.

The real cost of price increases isn't solely inflation. In 2008, I spent about $800 on a Black Legion army consisting of several characters, a couple Daemon Princes, about 30 CSM, 2x 3x Bikes, 3 havoc squads, 2 squads of Terminators, 6 Obliterators, 2 Predators, a Land Raider plus paints and hobby supplies (I'm forgetting a couple things.)

Doing pricing from the GW web store, the same thing today would be roughly $2000. Sure, the models look a little nicer and the paints have changed. But the cumulative rate of inflation since 2008 is about 30%, while the actual cost is about 150% higher.

That's GW price increases.

**kodos**

AngryAngel80 wrote:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:
you were buying 20 Cadians for $35 5-7 years ago?
Yeah the same kit from then, that somehow is costing them leaps and bounds more to make which is bogus. How much has that kit gone up ? Like about 150% higher ? Dang, inflation am I right ? Give me a break.

it is 160% since release, if you count the upgrade sprue worth 10 models, it is 320% from release if you ignore the new sprue

**AngryAngel80**

kodos wrote:
AngryAngel80 wrote:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:
you were buying 20 Cadians for $35 5-7 years ago?
Yeah the same kit from then, that somehow is costing them leaps and bounds more to make which is bogus. How much has that kit gone up ? Like about 150% higher ? Dang, inflation am I right ? Give me a break.

it is 160% since release, if you count the upgrade sprue worth 10 models, it is 320% from release if you ignore the new sprue

I kept the analysis down to do GW a solid, but yeah the cost of that ancient cadian kit has sky rocketed and for less product over all. This is just a case of it I know personally, but as another poster said, with shrinkflation this is easy to see in many other areas as well.

That extra upgrade sprue is priceless though, you get a sweet bandana head man ! A head with a bandana, hot dang !

**queen_annes_revenge**

It's scandalous that they increase prices on old stock like that. The prices should go down as things get older, not up. They are literally the only brand seemingly in the entire world which does so and people are somehow fine with.