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 Stormonu wrote:
Just for S&G's, who do you think will be on round two of this rotation?

My guess:

Spoiler:

Lord Castellan Creed (IG; He's vanished into the warp since 8th, and it's a hundred years later, correct?)
Vargard Obyron (Necrons)
Nemesor Zahndrekh (Necrons)
Imotekh the Stormlord (Necrons) [replaced with plastic]
Trazyn the Infinite (Necrons)
Anrakyn the Traveler (Necrons)
Necron Lord with Ressurection Orb (Necrons)
Necron Lord with Warscythe (Necrons)
Orikan the Diviner (Necrons)
Cryptek (Necrons; the resin one)
The Red Terror (Tyranids)
Night Lords Chaos Lords (CSM)

If I'm right about this being phase 1 of new Supplement releases:

Surprised the Catachans weren't on this list. They must be the oldest plastic set still in production.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Surprised the Catachans weren't on this list. They must be the oldest plastic set still in production.

Aren't the Space Marine bikes older?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Surprised the Catachans weren't on this list. They must be the oldest plastic set still in production.

Aren't the Space Marine bikes older?

I think zerkers are in contention here too.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Eldar-Autarch-Skyrunner

This uses sprues from 1994(?) plus finecast. Apparently it's in the new codex, but wouldn't be shocked to see it rotated out soon after. Expect that lots of people are going to convert them now.

Dudeface wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Surprised the Catachans weren't on this list. They must be the oldest plastic set still in production.

Aren't the Space Marine bikes older?

I think zerkers are in contention here too.

I'd have to squint at the bikes, I thought they got an update at some point. Cats are definitely older than Zerkers, I bought both when they came out

Did the Falcon ever get an update? If not then it's around 25 years old.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:


Did the Falcon ever get an update? If not then it's around 25 years old.

Falcon & Vyper are unchanged from 1997

Fire prism / Nightspinner sprue is a lot newer though.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Surprised the Catachans weren't on this list. They must be the oldest plastic set still in production.

Aren't the Space Marine bikes older?

I think zerkers are in contention here too.

I'd have to squint at the bikes, I thought they got an update at some point. Cats are definitely older than Zerkers, I bought both when they came out

Did the Falcon ever get an update? If not then it's around 25 years old.

Right you are, 98 on catachans and 99 on zerkers

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Surprised the Catachans weren't on this list. They must be the oldest plastic set still in production.

Aren't the Space Marine bikes older?

I think zerkers are in contention here too.

I'd have to squint at the bikes, I thought they got an update at some point. Cats are definitely older than Zerkers, I bought both when they came out

Did the Falcon ever get an update? If not then it's around 25 years old.

Marine bikes got a recut in 4th ed, when the plastic attack bike parts came out.

Falcon and devilfish hulls are both very old, and could use a revamp like the guard tanks got.

For range rotation, my guess for next on the block are:
Techmarine
techmarine with servitors
Masters of the chapter
Autarch skyrunner
Nurgle daemon prince
Anrakyr
Warboss with big choppy
Overlord with war scythe
Grey knights brother captain
Lord with res orb
Generic cryptek
Night lords chaos lord
Iron warriors warsmith
Ultramarines Honor Guard
Red Terror
Pyrovore
Dark Angels chapter Ancient
Catachan snipers
Cadian Snipers
Cyber Wolf
Brood Brothers
Armor through the ages
Terminus Ultra

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Surprised the Catachans weren't on this list. They must be the oldest plastic set still in production.

Aren't the Space Marine bikes older?

I think zerkers are in contention here too.

I'd have to squint at the bikes, I thought they got an update at some point. Cats are definitely older than Zerkers, I bought both when they came out

Did the Falcon ever get an update? If not then it's around 25 years old.

I bought the Zerkers not long after their release also to convert into SW Blood Claws after the metals were discontinued.... I never did finish those conversions Back in the day I thought they looked cool (don't be too harsh on me, I had only just hit my teens)

Breton wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

Even if say Corbulo gets primaris version, GW will very much bring him back in his old, gak form occasionally to doubledip.

Oh I doubt that. Firstborn versions go to Legends in a flash. Marneus, Tigurius, Ragnar - and their models are gone too.

Minor point - as of around a week ago, Ragnar still wasn't in the Space Wolves Legends document. It was part of the reason for that thread in 40k General, so there was a better list of things to poke GW about and ask when they'd make it in there.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Surprised the Catachans weren't on this list. They must be the oldest plastic set still in production.

Aren't the Space Marine bikes older?

I think zerkers are in contention here too.

I'd have to squint at the bikes, I thought they got an update at some point. Cats are definitely older than Zerkers, I bought both when they came out

Did the Falcon ever get an update? If not then it's around 25 years old.

I bought the Zerkers not long after their release also to convert into SW Blood Claws after the metals were discontinued.... I never did finish those conversions Back in the day I thought they looked cool (don't be too harsh on me, I had only just hit my teens)

Ah. 1998. I bought the Catachans from the Glasgow GW and then popped along to watch the Blair Witch Project.

The initial enthusiasm waned after building them and they remained largely unpainted.

The commlink/ vox sets are still my favs though and I'm always happy to find more on the second hand market to equip my Praetorians.

 NAVARRO wrote:

Tallonian4th wrote:
I find it strange people are seeing this as some big FOMO conspiracy when it's pretty normal for other model kit companies. I'm amazed that GW keep so many items in permanent stock it must be a night mare. Compare this to Airfix for example who have approximately 1,600 tools and currently have only about 240 lines on sale. GW on the other hand have 907 items currently listed as for sale on the GW store alone and that ignores FW. There must be many kits they only sell small amount of and it makes sense to concentrate those sales for slow selling items to free up resources for constant selling staples. Again using Airfix as an example you will always be able to buy a Spitfire or Lancaster from them but a Whirlwind or Stirling will only be rotated in and out of availability (sometimes for years at a time).

Sure they do... although they have 5 publications no rules and no game attached as far as I can see.
Point being GW rulesets publications games is a huge business for GW and the game is to be played today with the relevant tokens minis it needs.
If this was just Modelling kits for display and collectors items fair enough its a contained kit.

Its Like airfix would sell you the Stirling but just some sprues since the remaining, needed sprues, would be on a rotation period. You cant assemble the kit and 40k cant be played.
Well it can, people are clever to adapt convert etc... it just got a lot harder.

I find this amazing that GW acknowledged they reached saturation point... yet Production capacity has increased... Keep on churning more of the primaris in all the rainbow colours and in some cases with DOUBLE skus (regiment multipart box set) and ( easy build sprues on starters and deals)

Imagine If Eldar did not got some plastic sugar recently and were stuck to the old finecast and metals? Rotating eldar.

I'm sorry but that's not a good analogy a kit missing a sprue is impossible to complete, the rotation of these models by no means makes an army impossible to complete. From a business point of view there has to be a cut off at some point. Either you send these units to legends so you no longer need to support them at all or you put them into a rotation to keep them relevant. No company has infinite production capacity and the extra capacity GW did put in was pretty much immediately eaten up by the legal COVID requirements in the UK. Now hopefully those requirements are coming to an end but it may well have given GW a focus on where they feel they need extra capacity and these models weren't it. You talk about Eldar but the Eldar just got a large range refresh, I bet you would be pretty annoyed if this was pushed back, delayed or scaled back just to keep some niche models in a bloated Space Marines range. I'd much prefer new models for all ranges with niche models available for a limited time every so often to the niche models causing issues to the production and supply of the new.

New range rotation article:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/20/sunday-preview-avatar-autarch-and-aspect-warriors-aeldari-reinforcements-inbound/

I am kind of surprised terminator librarian is there. Especially seeing they were added to GK book recently too so the model serviced like a dozen armies. Although BA librarian was until recently cheaper so maybe people were buying BA model instead which is why it gets to stay unlike Karlaen.

First primaris models too, wonder how usual conspiracy theorists will spin that one

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Cats are definitely older than Zerkers, I bought both when they came out

Berserzerks are March 1999 (WD231), Catachans November 1999 (WD239).

For the lazy, an image.

Santtu wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Cats are definitely older than Zerkers, I bought both when they came out

Berserzerks are March 1999 (WD231), Catachans November 1999 (WD239).

Must be getting old...

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:


For the lazy, an image.

Santtu wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Cats are definitely older than Zerkers, I bought both when they came out

Berserzerks are March 1999 (WD231), Catachans November 1999 (WD239).

Must be getting old...

Isn't that terminator librarian not the one in the grey knights patrol detachment?

Yes, so it's basically going to be exclusive to that Combat Patrol.

Translation; we're squatting a bunch of stuff.

 Irbis wrote:


First primaris models too, wonder how usual conspiracy theorists will spin that one

Yeah but a lot of Secundus HQs are going away.

 Irbis wrote:
First primaris models too, wonder how usual conspiracy theorists will spin that one

No conspiracy. Those models are redundant now. The last of those models unavailable outside of that specific kit - the Primaris Ancient - now has its own model. No sense in keeping the sprue in production.

I mean... duh! Doesn't take much of a mind to figure that one out Irby.

What boxset did the Heroes of the Chapter come from?

 Original Timmy wrote:
What boxset did the Heroes of the Chapter come from?

Dark Imperium

 Hanskrampf wrote:

 Original Timmy wrote:
What boxset did the Heroes of the Chapter come from?

Dark Imperium

Thanks.

I’m surprised they are pulling the Space Marine Commander. It’s and old kit, but that removes a lot of options for First-Born Captain models from the available range.

Removal of options is gw style

To be fair, that kit is old. Details soft, old spure, just very dated.

I hate to see it go away because of what it represents, but it’s served well for far too long.

They should do a new version of it. The fact that the gravis captain has all the options gives me hope. But I could just as easily see so many choices being dropped.

Redundant space marines continue to go
Chaos removal causes panic

Meanwhile, one of the last inquisitor minions goes unmourned and unremembered. Only monkeys and crusaders left standing! Then they'll start in on the Inquisitors themselves.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Yes, so it's basically going to be exclusive to that Combat Patrol.

I don't expect that combat patrol will remain as-is much longer - either it will be changed or quietly stopped being produced.

 Stormonu wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Yes, so it's basically going to be exclusive to that Combat Patrol.

I don't expect that combat patrol will remain as-is much longer - either it will be changed or quietly stopped being produced.

Uh, that Combat Patrol literally just came out this weekend. They're not going to squat it so soon my man.