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I think there are some distinctions that are getting muddled up when discussing those Legions that followed Horus.
Firstly, all the Legions that followed Horus are the Traitor Legions. Within that definition, we have the God-Marked Legions, Chaos dedicated Legions and the Legions In Name. These categories present different applications of both the Chaos and Legion scales.

The God-Marked Legions (WE, EC, Tsons, DG) are, in essence, max Chaos and minimal Legion. These Legions are more loyal to their chosen deity than any single Legion Commander, be they Astartes or Primarch. They follow the whims of their God and are just as likely to fight fellows as they are foes. Even within the more "secure" Legions, the Thousand Sons and the Death Guard, there is great disunity through the Warbands and forces of Commanders such as Typhus and Ahriman. These Legions also willingly fight alongside the Daemonic forces of their patron God. Their recruitment often stems from outsiders joining their ranks through corruption or dedication due to varying factors such as a lack of sanity or clarity (WE) or the distinct lack of geneseed (Tsons and DG).

The Chaos Legions (WB, IW, BL) are the middling ground between Chaos and Legion. They generally respond to a central Commander (The Dark Council, Perturabo, Abbadon) and often deploy multiple Warbands of the same Legion under the command of a chosen subordinate to the central Commander. These Legions are more likely to respond to instructions from their Commander and work towards a common goal. That isn't to say there aren't times of strife or internal conflict (The Third Brotherhood and The Dispute of Iron), but these are often conducted at the behest of the central Commander. These Legions can often be seen at the head of wider Chaos armies (Davroth's invasion of Makenna VII and Abbadon's Black Crusades). The use of Daemons and Marked units will vary from Warband to Warband with some preferring purity of mortal forces to those readily embracing the Dark Gods. Recruitment is more stable due to less corrupted geneseed and the ability to conduct the necessary procedures to induct new Astartes into the ranks.

The Legions In Name (NL, AL) almost entirely operate as independent groups ranging from a few individual Astartes to roughly Company size forces and function more similarly to forces of the Legion Astartes than their kin. The lack of both a dedicated command structure or patron deity means these Warbands are loyal to no one but themselves. They are the raiders and reavers that hunt for easy targets, only attacking serious threats out of necessity or as a force multiplier to a larger allied contingent (Fall of Vilamnus and the Invasion of Tsadrekha). The forces of the Dark Gods are rare in their ranks and only larger gatherings of these Legions see any real dedication to the Pantheon arise (Kernax Voldorius's Warband and Krieg Acerbus's Warband). Recruitment tends to consist of the absorption of other Astartes elements into the original Warband (The Exalted's Warband subsuming rescued Night Lords and an Alpha Legion Warband's infiltration of the Emperor's Swords Chapter).

These are generalised statements and any or all can be thrown out whenever required. It is however, untrue to suggest that all the Traitor Legions are broken remants of their former selves.

I definitely don’t think they should disappear but I do think they get too much spotlight.

I’d love to read about more minor warbands, ones that came from renegade chapters and not the legions. I’d also love to read about more human traitors, not just as goons in a story but actually as the book focus. Like the Blood Pact.

I would just prefer when the legions do emerge from the warp that should really be an “oh gak” moment. Not “oh Deathguard again”.

Jarms48 wrote:
I would just prefer when the legions do emerge from the warp that should really be an “oh gak” moment. Not “oh Deathguard again”.

See I don't find this in BL books. I'm not trying to be smart here it's just I've read a lot of BL stuff from Chaos and Imperial perspectives and that doesn't really stand out as a "thing". Could people point me to where this sentiment shows up?

Honestly, I want more emphasis on the different warbands if the Legions, like Angron's Fury of the World Eaters or the Bringers of Decay for the Black Legion. I would love to see how the general ethos and style of warfare for the different Legions manifest in different ways among different warbands. I also want to see more about the non-Legion warbands, like the Flawless Host or The Cleaved. There's so much potential material to dive into.

mrFickle wrote:
Should GW got rid of the traitor legions?

No.

Personally I say no, and honestly would really like to see the traitor legions be brought back together to form each individual legion once more under the leadership of their surviving Great Crusade higher ranked brothers with the experience newer traitor Astartes lack.

If the traitor Primarchs won't be brought back then I'd really like to see this begin to occur. Really and truthfully I just want Jago Sevetarian back and get to see him bring the remaining legion brothers back to reform the VIIIth. That and learn more about the VIIIth and Konrad before and during the crusade as well as after the siege of Terra up to Konrad's death and on to the scouring.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

mrFickle wrote:
It’s kind of irrelevant if GW got it right with 3.5, they got rid of it on purpose so it isn’t coming back. So it doesn’t solve any problems.

No, it isn't, because it shows that they can do it. And they did it in Traitor Legions as well, and that was late 7th edition. And Faith and Fury went a long way into differentiating the Legions as well. And you don't "solve problems" by just giving up and accepting them. The problems are still there, and you're idea would just exacerbate them. The 4th edition CSM codex is almost universally reviled by CSM players because it did almost exactly what you're proposing.

wasn't rhe 3.5 CSM codex massivly OP?

BrianDavion wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

mrFickle wrote:
It’s kind of irrelevant if GW got it right with 3.5, they got rid of it on purpose so it isn’t coming back. So it doesn’t solve any problems.

No, it isn't, because it shows that they can do it. And they did it in Traitor Legions as well, and that was late 7th edition. And Faith and Fury went a long way into differentiating the Legions as well. And you don't "solve problems" by just giving up and accepting them. The problems are still there, and you're idea would just exacerbate them. The 4th edition CSM codex is almost universally reviled by CSM players because it did almost exactly what you're proposing.

wasn't rhe 3.5 CSM codex massivly OP?

If by "massively OP" you mean "contained Iron Warriors with 4 Heavy Supports and the ability to spam Lash of Fzorgle but otherwise ranged from balanced to underpowered", sure.

It also had infiltrating speed lords, Daemon bombs, untargetable Siren Princes, etc.

3.5 was OP.
But that's basically unrelated to it having interesting/characterful rules

You could do some crazy things with that book that certainly looked OP, but a lot of it was also very expensive and thus not actually OP. But there were certainly things that could really shock an opponent on first exposure.

 Insectum7 wrote:
You could do some crazy things with that book that certainly looked OP, but a lot of it was also very expensive and thus not actually OP. But there were certainly things that could really shock an opponent on first exposure.

honestly tat sounds about right for chaos.

Why stop there? Only Ultramarines, only cadians, only iyanden too much choice! /s
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