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The paint scheme they've chosen for the studio army does these models no favours.

The rider is indistinct form the bike itself, and there's so much going on with the bike that it's hard to tell where the bike ends and the rider begins.

Thank the Holy STCs that run the Squat Empire that she's not wearing a helmet, otherwise we mightn't've known she was even there!

It kinda make sense from a practical pov, you don't want to make the driver an even easier target.

The coat being high-tech is interesting. I guess it makes sense why a squat would want to wear it over their armor, I guess? Though why whatever tech the coat sports couldn't be implemented in the armor is anyone guess

 GaroRobe wrote:
The coat being high-tech is interesting. I guess it makes sense why a squat would want to wear it over their armor, I guess? Though why whatever tech the coat sports couldn't be implemented in the armor is anyone guess

Some sort of sensor cloaking materials? Maybe it absorbs/blurs radar/lidar/ thermal signatures in a way the hard armor cant?

 GaroRobe wrote:
The coat being high-tech is interesting. I guess it makes sense why a squat would want to wear it over their armor, I guess? Though why whatever tech the coat sports couldn't be implemented in the armor is anyone guess

...perhaps it's just there because of the rule of cool?

I understand that we like to find in-universe explanations for things, but honestly, I'm pretty sure most of the design elements that we see on any model exist only because they look interesting or impressive.

Maybe this Kin just likes to slay fools in style?

The new trike is decent enough. Not awesome. Not awful.

Still have interest.

I was wondering how does the bike lands when it stops hoovering? Do the fans rotate up?

There's potential there but I'm really not a fan of the anti-grav; genuinely would have preferred just some actual wheels. That, strip back the amount of superfluous bits tacked on, give it a grungier paint job and we're talking.

Was initially Wtf - felt the same when I saw the Kharadron, and similarly I really like it. Love the diesel punk stylings - the curved forms and the guns. It all has a nice feeling of weight about it without the brick-ness of Marine stuff. The grav tech looks good, again nice and heavy and strange, very different from other races.
The overcoat and the pioneer stuff is obviously a link back to the guild bikers with their coats and they used their bikes to travel between holds. Hence the independent idea they are pushing. Also great that there are female squats, hoping for some for Kharadrons at some point.

I would like to see this in a different scheme and a whole squad of them, or beside a squad of the infantry. It is quite difficult to get a good sense of their overall visual style when they just show off single minis. I was disappointed we didn't see more- thought we would see the rest of the infantry squad that were in silhouette. Which does lead me back to the nagging feeling they might be appearing in the next killteam. Probably not, but overall I'd just really like to see more, even if just of the units the revealed minis belong to. But they look like a lot of fun.

I like it except for the handgun/revolver/slide shotgun. It just doesn't make sense to me, and made me feel uncomfortable looking at it.

 firmlog wrote:
I like it except for the handgun/revolver/slide shotgun. It just doesn't make sense to me, and made me feel uncomfortable looking at it.

I really like that gun! Doubtless there will be other weapon options for riders so I wouldn't think you'd be stuck with it. I'm wondering of there will be a heavy weapon trike version like the old school ones. Maybe pioneers on foot as a scout unit with those cool overcoats [possiblythe coats are status as much as practical].
Also will this hover-tech go across the vehicles - could see some heavy crawlers too.

I think it looks pretty cool - they've managed to reference the classic miniature idea and do something new with it.

So - Votaan, how are we pronouncing that?

Hard 'T' like VoTTaan?
Voh-taaan?
Voh-tane?
VoTTane?

 Pacific wrote:
I think it looks pretty cool - they've managed to reference the classic miniature idea and do something new with it.

So - Votaan, how are we pronouncing that?

Hard 'T' like VoTTaan?
Voh-taaan?
Voh-tane?
VoTTane?

Voh-taaan for me..

I'm fine with it being anti-grav since they're meant to stand apart from the Imperium as being more technologically advanced, and now that half of the new stuff (especially Primaris) is floating it would be a bit weirder if they weren't, since grav is 40k's codeword for "advanced technology."

I'm not big on the colour scheme. I was fine with the almost-GSC colours on the initial reveal, but the Sons of Horus bike combined with the rider feels a bit... blah?

The duster over the armour I'm not a fan of. Robes and jackets over power armour is nothing new, but it gives the rider a very 'squished' appearance - can imagine them sweating buckets beneath a jumpsuit, armour and now that thick coat.

 Pacific wrote:

So - Votaan, how are we pronouncing that?

Hard 'T' like VoTTaan?
Voh-taaan?
Voh-tane?
VoTTane?

I'm just pronouncing it 'Squat'...

Kinda like the trike, wonder what it would look like if some wheels were converted onto it.

It already has suspension, is it normal for hover bikes to have that?

 insaniak wrote:

 Pacific wrote:

So - Votaan, how are we pronouncing that?

Hard 'T' like VoTTaan?
Voh-taaan?
Voh-tane?
VoTTane?

I'm just pronouncing it 'Squat'...

Or maybe just Kin.

 Pacific wrote:
Hard 'T' like VoTTaan?
Voh-taaan?
Voh-tane?
VoTTane?

The "Vo" is silent, and there's a triple "P" sound that you wouldn't know about just by looking at it.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Or maybe just Kin.

I think you mean Kyn™.

Which in itself could be "kih-n" or "ky-nn".

 firmlog wrote:
I like it except for the handgun/revolver/slide shotgun. It just doesn't make sense to me, and made me feel uncomfortable looking at it.

I know what you mean. There are a lot of well detailed real-world mechanisms going on there, but taken all together on that platform makes no sense.

So its break-open to access the cylinder, and pump-action, on a weapon being used one-handed by someone driving a vehicle by handlebars

You could do all of these things, but why would you?

I like the model, i dont like the driver having a longcoat. Maybe they come from a ice planet jugging from the collor of the coat

 insaniak wrote:


What a weird design. Being grav is unsurprising, but it looks like it's supposed to transform into a Kastelan robot.

Handgun is bigger than the vehicle weapon.

I shudder to think what would happen to that poor girl's wrist when she actually fires that thing.

That thing isn't a handgun, it is a shotgun.
Which means it's going to have a lot of recoil.

So unless she's actually a T-800, she's going to lose that arm.

I quite like how it shares a design language with the Battle Automata.

As I said before, I really want to see this in the wider design context of the army.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
Hard 'T' like VoTTaan?
Voh-taaan?
Voh-tane?
VoTTane?

The "Vo" is silent, and there's a triple "P" sound that you wouldn't know about just by looking at it.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Or maybe just Kin.

I think you mean Kyn™.

Which in itself could be "kih-n" or "ky-nn".

Oh Snap!

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I quite like how it shares a design language with the Battle Automata.

As I said before, I really want to see this in the wider design context of the army.

I can envision a big Dwarf suit with these round design choices.

I can't stop humming Knights of Cydonia now. Wonder if there's a Muse fan on the design team?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I shudder to think what would happen to that poor girl's wrist when she actually fires that thing.

That thing isn't a handgun, it is a shotgun.
Which means it's going to have a lot of recoil.

So unless she's actually a T-800, she's going to lose that arm.

Shot many shotguns have you? A normal real-life hummie can shoot a 12ga shotgun one handed just fine (Youtube is full of examples). Comfortable? No. Effective? No. Doable? Yes. Plus, felt recoil is proportional to weapon weight, and this weapon looks decently heavy.

This is a sci-fi universe after all. Don't overthink it.

Does this rumour engine picture seem like it could be for Squats?



The Trike has a somewhat similar design its with coil/spring suspension with a metal bar that has a grove in it above, I can't find any other miniatures that look too similar and the tire doesn't match anything else either. I hope it is for them as all anti-grav would be a disapointment (Like an Anti-grav Land Train wouldn't be as cool)

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Does this rumour engine picture seem like it could be for Squats?

It could, but I think it's just as likely to be the rumoured CSM bikers.

 xttz wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Does this rumour engine picture seem like it could be for Squats?

It could, but I think it's just as likely to be the rumoured CSM bikers.

It doesn't seem evokative of how that part on either Imperial or Chaos designs are usually, though. The only thing I've seen that seems slightly similar is how it is on that Squat trike.

 Pacific wrote:
I think it looks pretty cool - they've managed to reference the classic miniature idea and do something new with it.

So - Votaan, how are we pronouncing that?

Hard 'T' like VoTTaan?
Voh-taaan?
Voh-tane?
VoTTane?

I am pronouncing its as.... squat