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Honestly it doesn't surprise me too much. We know GW is behind on releases and they clearly don't want to be. Chances are there's a lot of mess with international postage behind the scenes at GW so they might well have to bulk up on releases like this because other things have built up also needing releases and they just don't have the time to spread it out over two or three weeks.

*checks WarCom*

And it's not a two week pre-order window either. It really is everything everywhere all at once for this lot.

Well they have to get them all out before Christmas, and Arks of Omen which has to have multiple releases before 10th edition in summer 2023. GW are running out of release slots.

Yeah, the imminent new edition likely puts pressure on the remaining 9th ed releases. I wouldn't even worry about any concerns about expiration date, but even for GW it's a bit much to release a 9th ed book in 10th ed, so they just have to get stuff out there as quickly as they can.

I don't mind one bit. It's good to finally have the models out for those who want them.

Prices

 DaveC wrote:
Prices

The Land Fortress is cheaper than I thought.
I expected closer to £80, so maybe its smaller than I thought?

 Geifer wrote:
Yeah, the imminent new edition likely puts pressure on the remaining 9th ed releases. I wouldn't even worry about any concerns about expiration date, but even for GW it's a bit much to release a 9th ed book in 10th ed, so they just have to get stuff out there as quickly as they can.

I don't mind one bit. It's good to finally have the models out for those who want them.

But they're quite happy to release a codex within 6-8 months of it being (partly) invalidated with a new edition.

The models are generally pretty good, I do like the big beefy armoured models. I was thinking of getting the champion, but 24 quid for a single plastic toy soldier is pushing it for me. The only models I don't like are the lego wheeled kids' toys looking vehicles. Along with these wierd things...

Why do they have just one leg? I don't get it.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

Along with these wierd things...

Why do they have just one leg? I don't get it.

They don't have any legs? They are flying, thats just some scrap so they are connected to the base since GW doesn't like to use flying stands anymore

 Matrindur wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
Prices

The Land Fortress is cheaper than I thought.
I expected closer to £80, so maybe its smaller than I thought?

Its the equivalent of a Land Raider so it looks about right but yes I was expecting a higher price.
Generally everything else looks reasonable although the beserks are a bit pricey. Going to start with a squad of Hearthguard and a Sagitaur and go from there.

 Matrindur wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

Along with these wierd things...

Why do they have just one leg? I don't get it.

They don't have any legs? They are flying, thats just some scrap so they are connected to the base since GW doesn't like to use flying stands anymore

Ah... I see it now, more so in the other ones. That's a lousy design imo. If I had these, I'd be chopping the crap off and using a flying stand I think.
I guess it's cheaper to mould a bit extra on the sprue than provide a seperate flying stand for GW. I suppose the bean counters have figured a way to get some extra pennies to the share holders doing this.

I am the complete opposite. I'd much rather they used scenery as a stand than those crappy translucent bits of plastic.

 Olthannon wrote:
I am the complete opposite. I'd much rather they used scenery as a stand than those crappy translucent bits of plastic.

Me, too. I suspect that the sculptor isn't a fan of flying stands either if they went with tactical rock hover mode.

To be fair, the current flying stands are absolutely awful. Models are guaranteed to break off if you look at them funny. I'd much rather they did this. A different paintjob to better distinguish the robot from the bit of junk supporting it would help.

To anyone that doesn't like either flying stands or tactical rocks I'd suggest using brass rod instead. You can very easily just disconnect the guy shown here from the rock and use a brass pin of whatever length you like to attach him to a base, it is imo the best looking solution.

Yes I usually end up using steel/brass rod instead. Plus the bits of scenery gives it a bit more of a scenic base and if you don't like it/it doesn't fit your theme just snip it off. Its just plastic. Not like hacking through metal back in the day.

Prices not that bad. I was worried about Hekaton. Characters a bit overpriced but they come with extra bots...
Im still amazed to see this all released in just one huge release. I dont remember GW doing that before.

I REALLY hoped they were going to break this up into two waves of releases... I don't want to drop like $1k on a single day, but think I might, considering I have been dreaming of a Squat return for more than fifteen years.

I'm most curious to see the full 360 images of some of the new squats.

I expected the Land Fortress to be like £80 at least.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
I REALLY hoped they were going to break this up into two waves of releases... I don't want to drop like $1k on a single day, but think I might, considering I have been dreaming of a Squat return for more than fifteen years.

The alternative is to just have the barest level of restraint and not buy multiples of everything at once. They're not going anywhere.

 warboss wrote:
I'm most curious to see the full 360 images of some of the new squats.

I'm looking forward to seeing some of the sprues - mostly for the head variants.
Really really looking forward to seeing how the community builds and paints the full range - what I've seen so far with just the hearthkin, bikes and characters has been fantastic.

l can't afford too much right now, but I'll be picking up a Land Fortress and two of the new characters o release day.

Very excited to paint the Land Fortress in particular, less excited to build it

Geez...those prices put the Land Fortress over $100...I’ll have to wait to pick up one at a STEEP discount

 silverstu wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
Prices

The Land Fortress is cheaper than I thought.
I expected closer to £80, so maybe its smaller than I thought?

Its the equivalent of a Land Raider so it looks about right but yes I was expecting a higher price.
Generally everything else looks reasonable although the beserks are a bit pricey. Going to start with a squad of Hearthguard and a Sagitaur and go from there.

Don't think they are that big. I'd expect the Sagitaur to have the footprint of a Genestealer Cults Ridgerunner but a bit taller, and the Land Fortress to have a footprint of a Rockgrinder, but again a bit taller.

Tell you what, I'm bloody glad I got the army box. 80 quid saved is pretty decent.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Well they have to get them all out before Christmas, and Arks of Omen which has to have multiple releases before 10th edition in summer 2023. GW are running out of release slots.

Let's see if the community learned anything for Psychic Awakening. I'd bet a C-note that these Arks of Omen books will be A) Very poor with rules and fluff. B) Obsolete within six months.

 Togusa wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Well they have to get them all out before Christmas, and Arks of Omen which has to have multiple releases before 10th edition in summer 2023. GW are running out of release slots.

Let's see if the community learned anything for Psychic Awakening. I'd bet a C-note that these Arks of Omen books will be A) Very poor with rules and fluff. B) Obsolete within six months.

GW has said that the books will not contain rules for models, but more terrain/setting rules and scenarios, so with some mild use across editions, at least.

So is this now everything that has or is going to be released for the Votann in the short/medium term?

 Olthannon wrote:
I am the complete opposite. I'd much rather they used scenery as a stand than those crappy translucent bits of plastic.

Forgive me but aren't you a massive BFG fan?

 Pacific wrote:
So is this now everything that has or is going to be released for the Votann in the short/medium term?

 Olthannon wrote:
I am the complete opposite. I'd much rather they used scenery as a stand than those crappy translucent bits of plastic.

Forgive me but aren't you a massive BFG fan?

Until next codex yeah this it it. Could bb similar to sob who got 2nd book and more models early 9th after being last of 8th

 Pacific wrote:
So is this now everything that has or is going to be released for the Votann in the short/medium term?

 Olthannon wrote:
I am the complete opposite. I'd much rather they used scenery as a stand than those crappy translucent bits of plastic.

Forgive me but aren't you a massive BFG fan?

Yep, this is our lot for now. I'm super interested to see what the next stuff will be. I do hope for some lighter armed Pioneers on foot, like sappers or engineers, that have perhaps a stronger touch of the old Squats to them. And hopefully a flyer too.

And yes! I am a big BFG fan but I'm more forgiving with the whole gigantic void of space. It would be a lot harder to do scenery under every single ship Plus most people painted their flying stands black, which y'know made sense for space.

Take for instance the Votann Pioneer bikes, they did a nice job of making the suggestion of hovering but there's no flying stand. It's just a plastic plug on a rock for the base. I've seen some excellent conversions over the years of people doing Eldar jetbike bases with scenic bases and the like. Obviously from GW's perspective, a translucent stand is easy to supply. But where possible, I much prefer the scenery and a realistic approach to make the model appear to be flying.