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I think the circa 2008 Planet Fall stuff like the bastion was made by GW proper.

The made in China terrain came after like the Wall O'Dead Cadians.

And yeah, for a toy company to keep something from ~2008 in stock (14 years ago folks) is unheard of.

But let's pour one out for the noble Bastion. It had its flaws but it did give me my Leviathan and my Fortress Precinct.

KK, that Fortress Maximus makes you my hero.

I liked the Wall of Martyrs sets a lot. Had a few and painted them, then sold online...although $45 for that bunker that was $30 just a few years ago is a little hard to swallow imo.

I'm sad, better grab a void shield gen now because I've always wanted that kit.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
And yeah, for a toy company to keep something from ~2008 in stock (14 years ago folks) is unheard of.

Tell that to the nearly 30 year old eldar models still being pawned off on consumers, for escalating prices during each price hike.

Or more bluntly, take away stuff that has at least marginal universal use (everyone can use terrain) for stuff that has even more marginal use since not many play eldar as nobody wants to pay to field ugly ancient models that cost as much as newer engineered sculpts.

Im an eldar fan, and ive written off the army since 4th ed. Which was essentially the last update other than fairly recent banshees and farseer.

Crap, I just spent $300 on terrain I don't need. Thanks a lot, Dakka.

 Pariah Press wrote:
... terrain I don't need...

See I understand each of these words individually, but when put in that order I just can't figure out their meaning.

Agreed. Its a muligitawny stew of gibberish.

Is it true that, when you die, if all of your unpainted models are buried with you, you paint them in the afterlife for all eternity? Asking for a friend.

I have some nostalgia for those old pieces, but in all honesty I just like the new stuff better. However I can understand the perspective of people who are unhappy with this development even though I do not share it personally.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Hm. I always wanted a Wall of Martyrs - Imperial Bunker, but do I get one...?

I heard its made in China, so the plastic is kind of clunky. Like the Garden of Morr...

Pretty sure the Wall of Martyrs kits are made in China, yes. For what it's worth, I've experienced a number of issues with GW's made in China terrain kits, but I don't remember having any trouble with the bunker I built and painted.

Could be that with shipping costs from the Far East still being astronomical and unreliable they’ve decided to move everything ‘in house’. Being it’s G Dubz I would imagine they’d still be turning a tidy profit, but if it’s taking an extra 6+ months for goods to be delivered, as it is in other industries, they may have decided it’s not worth the bother…

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I have some nostalgia for those old pieces, but in all honesty I just like the new stuff better. However I can understand the perspective of people who are unhappy with this development even though I do not share it personally.

There is something to be said for the design and styling of newer kits. I wish GW was just willing to compromise a little and make some things modular instead of heavily investing in making unique pieces that can only be assembled one way. Like yeah, the recent dragon skeleton should be the latter. It makes sense. There's nothing wrong with having some unique pieces in your terrain range. But couldn't we have Sigmar buildings (preferably with both ruined and intact parts) as a core to the urban terrain range and create something like the floating fountain to come with its own stairs and both the fountain and the stairs being scaled so they can be fit neatly into the building range?

I think GW could get a lot more out of these kits if they were willing to commit to it. It even fits with the usual no model, no rules and monopose arguments. Make it build a single thing, and sell that thing only once. Make it modular or kitbashable with other kits, and you can sell multiples of the same thing.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
KK, that Fortress Maximus makes you my hero.

Would have been better if it was actually IN Fort Max's colors, though.

 Geifer wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Hm. I always wanted a Wall of Martyrs - Imperial Bunker, but do I get one...?

I heard its made in China, so the plastic is kind of clunky. Like the Garden of Morr...

Pretty sure the Wall of Martyrs kits are made in China, yes. For what it's worth, I've experienced a number of issues with GW's made in China terrain kits, but I don't remember having any trouble with the bunker I built and painted.

Wall of Martyrs kits suffer from the same main issue as Garden of Morr, Numinous Occulum, Chaos Dreadhold, Sector Imperialis bases and many other olders kits. The quality of detail is pretty low and parts require a lot of gap filling. It's not a China issue per se, just that the molds are made differently (ie. cheaper) and unable to catch all the detail from the hand-sculpted masters. Skyshield landing pad was one of the few exceptions which was obviously designed digitally and cast in high quality molds.

Dunno how you got Garden of Morr in there, it predates GW's cheapo AoS launch era chinese terrain, it has the normal detail sharpness.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
KK, that Fortress Maximus makes you my hero.

Would have been better if it was actually IN Fort Max's colors, though.

A little short on blue (which I guess could be darker), but otherwise the red and grey are fine.

 Pariah Press wrote:
Is it true that, when you die, if all of your unpainted models are buried with you, you paint them in the afterlife for all eternity? Asking for a friend.

Sounds nice, really.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I have some nostalgia for those old pieces, but in all honesty I just like the new stuff better. However I can understand the perspective of people who are unhappy with this development even though I do not share it personally.

The Sector Mechanicus stuff that's going away are hardly an 'old pieces'.

A bit sad to see the terrain go, but the one I'll miss the most is the Bastion.

I do find it a bit weird that there is such major culling of the terrain offered. However, I wonder if it is GW realizing that their current rule system just doesn't play nice to a lot of their terrain.

They may be removing this terrain to make room for a new line of terrain to go with the new Horus Heresy.

 Pariah Press wrote:
Is it true that, when you die, if all of your unpainted models are buried with you, you paint them in the afterlife for all eternity? Asking for a friend.

Now that would truly be a form of hell.

 krijthebold wrote:

 Pariah Press wrote:
Is it true that, when you die, if all of your unpainted models are buried with you, you paint them in the afterlife for all eternity? Asking for a friend.

Sounds nice, really.

Yes but only infantry and cavalry since they are indued with souls. You don't have to do terrain or vehicles to progress to the next stage of the afterlife.

 Overread wrote:
I know these are made overseas, perhaps GW has suddenly lost a contract with a factory in China?

I know that they can be hostile to work with, I seem to recall that Privateer Press wound up with a bunch of their moulds being held by a factory who wouldn't let them go - though I don't recall much of the ins and outs of that being explained beyond that.

Probably the factory was making money producing bootlegs from the actual molds and didn't want to give up a revenue stream. If you're making stuff in China, they WILL make extras and sell them for extra cash.

Oh snap, Conservators LCTB..
Now that one I just gotta get, and not only because it contains the missing antenna for the KT Nachmund box.

Gotta see if I can squeeze another landing pad in there as well. I only have one of them, and I always planned getting two and stacking one on top of the other for a 2-story "shopping mall vehicle garage" (never glued the side walls on).

The bunkers might be nice as well but "Skull Fatigue" is actually a thing..

Sector mechanicus, seriously? Its not that old and has to be one of the most unique terrain sets gw has produced. So many different build options. I have no idea why they can't just keep it as a main line alongside the ruins

Ah that sucks, I guess my dream of a full Sector Mechanicus table will never come true now...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Dunno how you got Garden of Morr in there, it predates GW's cheapo AoS launch era chinese terrain, it has the normal detail sharpness.

Chapels and statue in Garden of Morr are fine but the walls, fences and gateway have softer detail.

Lower quality terrain didn't begin with AoS launch, most of the WHFB scenery kits from early 2000's had soft detail and poorly fitting parts. Only Tower, Chapel, Fortified Manor and certain parts of the Garden of Morr and Temple of Skulls have what I would consider normail detail sharpness.

There's always the chance that this stuff (especially the Sector Mechanicus kits) will be back in other kit combos, reboxed (and with a higher price tag). My feeling is that there will be a whole bunch of these "battlefield in a box" kits with different themes.

I hope so, mechanicus terrain is some of my favorite because it can be used for 40k or necromunda and looks good on my sector imperialis table. I would really like to pick up one of each kit that I don't have.