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About a year or two ago, I picked up the Underworlds starter that had Skaeth's Wild Hunt and Grashrak's Despoilers in it (Beastgrave, I think it was called), basically just for the minis (it was half price at my FLGS as the next starter had recently released). The minis are cool and will eventually make a nice side project for me to work on, and I suspect that was the appeal of the various warbands for many hobbyists. Kind of a shame to see them go.

Chopstick wrote:

They're available as part of the Warcry Blade Born board game, you can try search for them or find ebay seller that sold them separatedly. There's also Darkoath chieftain, which is from the same faction(and probably one of the best models GW had ever made), and the Darkoath Savagers, currently only available in the Red Harvest box, but you can always find them on ebay or split it.

Hmmmm...thats not a bad idea, Chopstick. Cheers.

WOW, is it me or has just about all the 40k terrain kits got. I was meaning to buy some more sector mechanics stuff but its gone!

Ragweek wrote:

WOW, is it me or has just about all the 40k terrain kits got. I was meaning to buy some more sector mechanics stuff but its gone!

Yup, local Warhammer store manager told me they're having loads of trouble with China and that a lot of the terrain was made in China, so they're cutting it down and restructuring how they'll handle terrain in the future.

Part of me wonders - the terrain and Underworlds kits were all made overseas I believe. I do wonder if part of this range rotation isn't just freeing up capacity but also perhaps that GW has lost a factory in China

Or perhaps they are looking at all these massive lockdowns China is doing with their Zero Covid Policy and GW is concerned that it might end up locking up more and more of their stuff. So cut it from sales now and move on so that the public are more content and spending on active sale products instead of spending on an ever growing backlog of outstanding orders.

Sad to see so many models going to last chance to buy recently. I wonder if they're getting redone in future or moving to rotating ranges.

Especially the fortifications, they only got updated rules like 6 months ago.

No one knows, but a lot of people here are very sure (for some reason) that these are just range rotations and that these minis will for sure come back.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
No one knows, but a lot of people here are very sure (for some reason) that these are just range rotations and that these minis will for sure come back.

I suspect the reason is that GW explicitly stated that this is a range rotation and that models rotating out will be back in the future.

Do we actually know for sure that GW won't use this as a way to soft-phase them out? No, but we've already seen them actually do range rotation as described with the LotR range, and the scheme is new enough to the 40K / AoS lines that we haven't really had a chance to see stuff rotate back in yet.

we have seen them also doing good rules and keeping the power creep in line for updates with LotR but I don't know if this should give any hint on how the handle AoS/40k

by know "being available later again" could as well be a made to order metal thing as it could be the release of a new model with the same name

GW have removed models before without much if any warning. Heck if you're a Forgeworld fan they've removed swathes of models often without any warning hint or anything.

So GW have no fear of removing models and whilst they might not be clear with information up front before a model is removed, they are normally pretty clear when something is gone from their range.

So they've really no reason to lie about range rotation. There's no net gain for them. The most likely thing if they do end up not doing a reprinting later is that the situation changes outside of what they plan today whcih prevents them.



We've a few theories as to why they are doing this. From things like just blanket removing finecast from their product line in one go; to issues with factories and supplies from overseas (Underworld and Terrain are all overseas produced) and more.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
No one knows, but a lot of people here are very sure (for some reason) that these are just range rotations and that these minis will for sure come back.

Eh, with the Underworlds warbands it does sort of make sense.

It is a shame, but they're not particularly that fantastic ruleswise for AoS - but some warbands are great as conversion fodder to make characters. I suspect we'll see them pop back either at the start of a new Underworlds season or when their respective AoS army gets a battletome release.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
No one knows, but a lot of people here are very sure (for some reason) that these are just range rotations and that these minis will for sure come back.

Funny that with them saying they are range rotation rather than doing what they normally do when they remove stuff for good.

GW has 100% accuracy on being range rotation rather than removal with range rotation so far. Deciding yourself it's range removal instead is just inventing stuff up from your head.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
No one knows, but a lot of people here are very sure (for some reason) that these are just range rotations and that these minis will for sure come back.

Eh, with the Underworlds warbands it does sort of make sense.

It is a shame, but they're not particularly that fantastic ruleswise for AoS - but some warbands are great as conversion fodder to make characters. I suspect we'll see them pop back either at the start of a new Underworlds season or when their respective AoS army gets a battletome release.

Interesting, I had the opposite thoughts on the Underworlds stuff. The current sets are not playable in Underworlds, because they don't have the cards (you at least need the fighter cards for each model with their stats on, and without any faction specific cards you're unlikely to be able to build a "good" deck). None of the first three season's worth of factions are available to new Underworld's players and it's been like that for a couple of years - only the last couple of seasons are available. And as you mention, most of them are not great for AoS because they weren't designed for that.

That in itself is crazy - that for the sake of not including 20 cards they limit these sets just to AoS or players that just want to paint cool models. When otherwise they could be sold to Underworlds players also. So I guess maybe they've realised that and are going to repackage them? But short of that I can't see them coming back.

The Sector Mechanicus terrain - I just assume that with the Conquest and Imperium magazines there is so much of that out there at discounted prices that they don't really have any need to stock it for a few years. Most of it won't be hard to pick up, although the bits not in those magazines will be.

Phew! The Godsworn Hunt just arrived on the doorstep.

Really nice models and looking forward to adding them to games of Frostgrave.

I remember when they were basically giving away the hunt in those bundle boxes they did a little while back.

Two more items added to the Forgeworld last chance to buy this morning - the last of the Death Korps Engineers - The Heavy Flamer team and the Meltagun and Stubber duo

Regarding the terrain that may or may not be rotating out, I was just at the Warhammer Cafe in Grapevine yesterday, and they're getting rid of all their old terrain and even realm of battle boards from the game tables in a promotion this weekend. The guy said something like it's because it's all stuff they don't sell anymore, so they have to get rid of it. The table was crammed full of various stuff like some old Cities of Death, forests, Sigmar stuff, even Mechanicus stuff.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4655653854540185&id=1373659796072957
Maybe check to see if any of your local Warhammer stores are doing the same?

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Regarding the terrain that may or may not be rotating out, I was just at the Warhammer Cafe in Grapevine yesterday, and they're getting rid of all their old terrain and even realm of battle boards from the game tables in a promotion this weekend. The guy said something like it's because it's all stuff they don't sell anymore, so they have to get rid of it. The table was crammed full of various stuff like some old Cities of Death, forests, Sigmar stuff, even Mechanicus stuff.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4655653854540185&id=1373659796072957
Maybe check to see if any of your local Warhammer stores are doing the same?

Mine is as well. You get stuff added on to your purchase, depending how much you spend.

My FLGS store is also doing that. The realm of battle plates will be the last to go and require "large purchases"

A new slew of stuff on Last Chance.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/New-Exclusive?N=1477570038+4033599123&Nr=AND(sku.siteId%3AUS_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_US_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+%3C%3D+1652445420000+and+product.endDate+%3E%3D+1652445420000]&view=all

Generic Inquisitors, Yarrick 2, Creed, Kell, Red Terror and Spore mines.

I was about to say that Severina was a surprise as she's not that old a model, but then I think she was one of the last line of character models in finecast before the shift to all plastic characters. So yep fits with the finecast stripping policy.


Not surprised to see Sporemines nor the Red Terror in this list.

Interestingly, that hasn't affected the UK site yet.

Odd I checked the UK site and these things were in the last chance list.

 Overread wrote:
Odd I checked the UK site and these things were in the last chance list.

Yeah, my bad - I thought the "Last Chance to Buy" link on the homepage showed all LCtB items, not just the ex-Underworlds warbands.

On the Forgeworld side of things, I swear to the throne that the Iron Warriors had 9 items listed under their HH profile yesterday, today I logged in to check something and I see only seven items showing so far. Can anyone confirm what, if anything is gone?

 Togusa wrote:
On the Forgeworld side of things, I swear to the throne that the Iron Warriors had 9 items listed under their HH profile yesterday, today I logged in to check something and I see only seven items showing so far. Can anyone confirm what, if anything is gone?

The transfers have gone. I purchased a sheet a few days ago, glad I did now! Not sure what the other missing IW stuff is.

I've just noticed on the GW site that the Chaos Noctilith Crown scenery piece has gone too. Wonder if it's a reboxing or if it's gone for good?

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
On the Forgeworld side of things, I swear to the throne that the Iron Warriors had 9 items listed under their HH profile yesterday, today I logged in to check something and I see only seven items showing so far. Can anyone confirm what, if anything is gone?

The transfers have gone. I purchased a sheet a few days ago, glad I did now! Not sure what the other missing IW stuff is.

I've just noticed on the GW site that the Chaos Noctilith Crown scenery piece has gone too. Wonder if it's a reboxing or if it's gone for good?

Probably gone for good, terrain really doesn't last long on GW's site.

Noctilith is likely a rebox.

Yarrick's going, huh? End of an era.

ALL the HH transfers seem to have gone from the FW site. Hope they aren't a permanent deletion!.

I do find it funny how often I see things and am like 'wait that was still in print?' Like I thought Red Terror was long gone.