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You do realise they are just weapons right? There is a very high chance they are exactly the same as the previous FW weapon packs and they fit all the armour patterns.

It could be that we find out when/ if Renegade Guard are released that there is a distinct difference between the roles of them and Cultists.

To my mind, the current Cultist figures are a continuation of the 2nd Ed scrawny, skirt wearing, face mask adorned metal models.

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Its a shame all the legion support squads are looking like Mk6 bodies only - wish theyd been a bit more adventurous and brought out some other armour marks.

Well look at that. Extra sprues for mk6 being used with mk6. With mk6 monopose upgrade sprues wouldn't likely even work well with mk3/4 bodies and are arms even same between marks?

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Its a shame all the legion support squads are looking like Mk6 bodies only - wish theyd been a bit more adventurous and brought out some other armour marks.

Those bodies are the plastic ones from the bundle box.

Which means they will be the regular ones, too.


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tneva82 wrote:

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Its a shame all the legion support squads are looking like Mk6 bodies only - wish theyd been a bit more adventurous and brought out some other armour marks.

Well look at that. Extra sprues for mk6 being used with mk6. With mk6 monopose upgrade sprues wouldn't likely even work well with mk3/4 bodies and are arms even same between marks?

They are not.

Danny76 wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Yknow it ovcurred to me just now that this is the first one of these previews in a long time where we did not get a preview of some sort of 2 player battlebox for either 40k or AoS. Every other preview I can think of they announced a box for at least one of the two games if not both

Maybe because of Horus Heresy tomorrow?
Or I guess whatever for today that might be a 2 player box etc..

HH, and Ash Wastes and the just happened or soon-to-happen AoS Ghosts vs Witch Elves. The big ticket 2 player box card is pretty filled up for this year.
Also Underworlds got their new box (not quite as pricey, but another consideration for this kind of thing).


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Some nice looking heresy additions. I'm even more excited with proper weapon kits. Like the tanks as well.

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I think I'm most excited for today, however. It has the most potential for interesting, oddball stuff that I can just pick up and not worry about anything but assembly and paint.
No weird rules, invalidations, gimmicks, tricks or whatever.

If the Deathmaster is the only model coming for skaven then that will be very disappointing. Especially when Skryre Acolytes are still metal and is 1 per pack, which makes them very expensive for a battle line unit. These guys deserve some love and given a plastic kit.

Zhothac Thoth wrote:
If the Deathmaster is the only model coming for skaven then that will be very disappointing. Especially when Skryre Acolytes are still metal and is 1 per pack, which makes them very expensive for a battle line unit. These guys deserve some love and given a plastic kit.

New globadiers would be fanstastic indeed. One can hope...

Skaven players should be disappointed. They are indeed getting a single spare assassin (to go with the pack of assassins in Underworld), and nothing else.

I get there are budget and production constraints, but someone else should've been stuck with this bad slot. At the very least they should've gotten a model that isn't more of the same model they're getting through another product line.

At the same time Skaven have one of the biggest diverse armies in the AoS setting. Yes a lot of it needs updating, but choice wise they've a wealth of options.

Compared to armies like Flesheaters, Fyreslayers, Ossiarchs and others where the model diversity is very restrained. Heck even Daughters of Khaine, who seem to be really popular with at least part of the lor eand design team, have a very restricted unit roster

I am torn - I like new models for factions but somethimes they double down so much on "themes" that I don't want the result

I do like all the new Sylvaneth

 Overread wrote:
At the same time Skaven have one of the biggest diverse armies in the AoS setting. Yes a lot of it needs updating, but choice wise they've a wealth of options.

Compared to armies like Flesheaters, Fyreslayers, Ossiarchs and others where the model diversity is very restrained. Heck even Daughters of Khaine, who seem to be really popular with at least part of the lor eand design team, have a very restricted unit roster

Well, for DoK, part of the problem is every time they do an update (which seems often, especially with the minor game lines added in) they do a single model rather than a unit. Even the underworlds team was basically just a set of sergeants for the current units.

I also get the feeling that GW isn't sure if they want DoK to remain their own thing or if they want to recombine them with the remains of the old Dark Elf army - esp if they might be pushing them out of the Cities of Sigmar

 Overread wrote:
I also get the feeling that GW isn't sure if they want DoK to remain their own thing or if they want to recombine them with the remains of the old Dark Elf army - esp if they might be pushing them out of the Cities of Sigmar

Sounds more like the Sigmarites are leaving, to build their own cities with more hammers, skulls and comets.


But I very much could see GW dividing up the surviving dark elf kits between Morathi and the still elusive... uh... Malfurion? Malerion? Stevonnie?
Its like picking who gets which kids in the divorce.

Honestly I tink GW more did the whole "Morathi took over a city" to see if DoK players would en-mass adopt old Dark Elf armies again and what uptake there was of that specific type of force.


I still wonder if any of that will feature in the new Battletome.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

Garrac wrote:
Well, I'm happy for the assasin and the new bt announcements, but I'm also a bit disapointed. I really expected at least the night/gutter runners to get a refresh

Just two new miniatures for AoS since 2014, and they don't use the chance to refresh the 1999 units. Disapointing

Mate. I'm a Seraphon player. Specifically for AoS we've had.... Kroak.

In the past 13 years we've had Kroak...and an Underworlds Warband.

I feel the pain. I do.

Wasn't the stepped pyramid thing an AOS release?

I doubt many people consider the hollow playmobile playset pyramid a meaningful release for the Seraphon as an army.

Voss wrote:
I doubt many people consider the hollow playmobile playset pyramid a meaningful release for the Seraphon as an army.

If someone is going to pull the "Woe is me..." card about faction releases, it would seem fair to make sure they're actually correct in what they're complaining about, no?

Especially as meaningful didn't appear to be a part of their frame of reference - merely that something was released for their faction.

When people are talking about completely legitimate and accurate faction neglect, meaningful is implied.

Pulling a 'well, actually...' about terrain just seems a little spiteful.

Wait, there are people who don't like the free earthquake machine?

"Only things I like count as releases" is a silly metric. Oh, gosh, Fyreslayers haven't gotten ANY releases! They're an entire book with no models, 0 models! Oops, sorry, yes they do have models but you can't pull a "gotcha" on me, they all look like silly naked babies! They don't count!

edit: and if the past 13 years is what we're going by, Terradon/Ripperdactyls, Carnosaurs/Troglodons, Bastiladons, Skink Starpriest and Starseer, the albino temple guard style hero (Eternity Warden?)... all within the last 13 years...

"Only things I like count as releases" is a silly metric.

Well, bizarrely enough, that isn't the 'metric.'

Maybe I was slipped an empathy pill this morning, but it strikes me that one person sympathizing to another doesn't need to be belittled as 'woe is me.'

Especially when their factions are still essentially the same models 7 years and 3 editions into the brand new setting that replaced the 'failed' game because it wasn't selling (or whatever the excuse of the day is). The lack of support of those factions seems like a bigger flag to me.

Seraphon have 32 warscrolls, all with models.
Skaven have 40 warscrolls, all with models.

Sylvaneth have 19 warscrolls.
Kharadron have 16.

I guess where we differ is I think range size = support, and you think modern models = support.

I'd much rather be a Skaven or Seraphon player than a Sylvaneth or Kharadron or Fyreslayer or Ironjawz player.

You think ironjawz have it tough, us bonesplitterz get awful rules and no models. Ever.

 Rihgu wrote:
Seraphon have 32 warscrolls, all with models.
Skaven have 40 warscrolls, all with models.

Sylvaneth have 19 warscrolls.
Kharadron have 16.

I guess where we differ is I think range size = support, and you think modern models = support.

I'd much rather be a Skaven or Seraphon player than a Sylvaneth or Kharadron or Fyreslayer or Ironjawz player.

I think the big issue is kharadron overlords have existed far less time than skaven or serpahon and whilst they're really cool and I'm thankful for their existence, that's 16 units that could have been updated for either of the other factions.

Would it been have better for fyreslayers not to exist and instead revamp clan eshin for example?

 blood reaper wrote:

I have spoilered these for size - but also because I know some people will fall into a spiral of impossible despair at not seeing these with the accompanying BUY ME, NOW text and charisma-less presenters telling you to buy them.

Some of us work. Some of us have friends in different timezones. Some of us like to plan our days around things. All of these things together mean (shock! gasp!) that having a shared event to discuss without one person having to worry for ruining things for other people is a nice thing to have.

I get that the whole "having friends" part might be tripping you up though, what with that razor sharp edge you throw about.

It's cute that you posted this and then had the audacity to complain about memey posters elsewhere too.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

I have spoilered these for size - but also because I know some people will fall into a spiral of impossible despair at not seeing these with the accompanying BUY ME, NOW text and charisma-less presenters telling you to buy them.

Some of us work. Some of us have friends in different timezones. Some of us like to plan our days around things. All of these things together mean (shock! gasp!) that having a shared event to discuss without one person having to worry for ruining things for other people is a nice thing to have.

I get that the whole "having friends" part might be tripping you up though, what with that razor sharp edge you throw about.

It's cute that you posted this and then had the audacity to complain about memey posters elsewhere too.

Worth noting apparently the images come from a media personality who GW have invited in house and hosted since Wednesday, but they couldn't help themselves but disrespect their host and not leak the new stuff (also begs why they were out in a case already). They've since been ejected according to the chatter elsewhere.

Hold on, are you telling me actions have consequences? No way.

I do hope it was some vapid influencer who in turn will rail against GW because of the injustice of the World. You often get the sense they mostly hate each other anyway.

Dudeface wrote:

 Rihgu wrote:
Seraphon have 32 warscrolls, all with models.
Skaven have 40 warscrolls, all with models.

Sylvaneth have 19 warscrolls.
Kharadron have 16.

I guess where we differ is I think range size = support, and you think modern models = support.

I'd much rather be a Skaven or Seraphon player than a Sylvaneth or Kharadron or Fyreslayer or Ironjawz player.

I think the big issue is kharadron overlords have existed far less time than skaven or serpahon and whilst they're really cool and I'm thankful for their existence, that's 16 units that could have been updated for either of the other factions.

Would it been have better for fyreslayers not to exist and instead revamp clan eshin for example?

For me, new models are new models. I'll either like them, and maybe buy them if I like the rest of the range enough, or I won't. To that end, it doesn't matter to me whether Fyreslayers exist or Eshin gets revamped and honestly I can't get into the headspace of somebody who cares that much.
One of my friends is "waiting for an Eshin revamp". They get salty every time a non-Eshin model gets previewed. They own 0 Skaven models. I don't understand it at all. To me it's the same thing as if I got salty that GW didn't show off Oozaneth (insert your own completely made up faction here). If only GW would show off Oozaneth, then I could finally start my Oozaneth collection!

Maybe completely making up a faction here isn't 100% fair. GW, where are my Grotbag Scuttlers! If only you would reveal Grotbag Scuttlers instead of expanding Sylvaneth to almost 2/3 the size of Skaven or Seraphon!

Worth noting apparently the images come from a media personality who GW have invited in house and hosted since Wednesday, but they couldn't help themselves but disrespect their host and not leak the new stuff (also begs why they were out in a case already). They've since been ejected according to the chatter elsewhere.

Oh, do tell more. Media personality? But WHOM!?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

I have spoilered these for size - but also because I know some people will fall into a spiral of impossible despair at not seeing these with the accompanying BUY ME, NOW text and charisma-less presenters telling you to buy them.

Some of us work. Some of us have friends in different timezones. Some of us like to plan our days around things. All of these things together mean (shock! gasp!) that having a shared event to discuss without one person having to worry for ruining things for other people is a nice thing to have.

I get that the whole "having friends" part might be tripping you up though, what with that razor sharp edge you throw about.

It's cute that you posted this and then had the audacity to complain about memey posters elsewhere too.

No my friends are functional people who do not lose their minds over pictures of models being posted 'too early' because of chronic consoomer brain. If you 'plan your day' around these events (which as the very funny Wha-Mu offered a fantastic description), you need to get more hobbies or interests.



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Dudeface wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

I have spoilered these for size - but also because I know some people will fall into a spiral of impossible despair at not seeing these with the accompanying BUY ME, NOW text and charisma-less presenters telling you to buy them.

Some of us work. Some of us have friends in different timezones. Some of us like to plan our days around things. All of these things together mean (shock! gasp!) that having a shared event to discuss without one person having to worry for ruining things for other people is a nice thing to have.

I get that the whole "having friends" part might be tripping you up though, what with that razor sharp edge you throw about.

It's cute that you posted this and then had the audacity to complain about memey posters elsewhere too.

Worth noting apparently the images come from a media personality who GW have invited in house and hosted since Wednesday, but they couldn't help themselves but disrespect their host and not leak the new stuff (also begs why they were out in a case already). They've since been ejected according to the chatter elsewhere.

He was a hero, a martyr for the cause.

 Rihgu wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Rihgu wrote:
Seraphon have 32 warscrolls, all with models.
Skaven have 40 warscrolls, all with models.

Sylvaneth have 19 warscrolls.
Kharadron have 16.

I guess where we differ is I think range size = support, and you think modern models = support.

I'd much rather be a Skaven or Seraphon player than a Sylvaneth or Kharadron or Fyreslayer or Ironjawz player.

I think the big issue is kharadron overlords have existed far less time than skaven or serpahon and whilst they're really cool and I'm thankful for their existence, that's 16 units that could have been updated for either of the other factions.

Would it been have better for fyreslayers not to exist and instead revamp clan eshin for example?

For me, new models are new models. I'll either like them, and maybe buy them if I like the rest of the range enough, or I won't. To that end, it doesn't matter to me whether Fyreslayers exist or Eshin gets revamped and honestly I can't get into the headspace of somebody who cares that much.
One of my friends is "waiting for an Eshin revamp". They get salty every time a non-Eshin model gets previewed. They own 0 Skaven models. I don't understand it at all. To me it's the same thing as if I got salty that GW didn't show off Oozaneth (insert your own completely made up faction here). If only GW would show off Oozaneth, then I could finally start my Oozaneth collection!

Maybe completely making up a faction here isn't 100% fair. GW, where are my Grotbag Scuttlers! If only you would reveal Grotbag Scuttlers instead of expanding Sylvaneth to almost 2/3 the size of Skaven or Seraphon!

Worth noting apparently the images come from a media personality who GW have invited in house and hosted since Wednesday, but they couldn't help themselves but disrespect their host and not leak the new stuff (also begs why they were out in a case already). They've since been ejected according to the chatter elsewhere.

Oh, do tell more. Media personality? But WHOM!?

Unsure, names have not been named, but this was all discussed I the leak thread on B&C, but hey I'm sure someone being a disrespectful ass is a hero to people like blood reaper.

Edit: there we go.

People doing stuff like this is why they used to have stupidly heavy NDA's and avoid community interaction.