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JWBS wrote:
Aww man. I hope they give Mortarion to Wraight, otherwise it will be Swallow, and I aaume he gets Sanguinuius too, making them both a complete writeoff for me. Would be amazing if they came out of leftfield with an Abnett or Wraight Sanguinius though.

Mortarian is Annandale.

So, catching up on today's, but overall: Wow.
I'm almost never impressed by the preview shows, but this one was rather good. (AoS being the unfortunate nadir).

I will say that if they brought 50% of the HH enthusiasm and support to 40k for non-loyalists (xenos, chaos, etc) and even a just quarter of the enthusiasm and support for Fantasy, they could do some amazing things in the main games.

I also missed out on todays. I like the big tank, I want that for my admech as another skorpius.


I suppose the good thing with that HH box is that it would also make a good army box for a 40k space marines army if you wanted a retro look.

 Olthannon wrote:
I also missed out on todays. I like the big tank, I want that for my admech as another skorpius.


I suppose the good thing with that HH box is that it would also make a good army box for a 40k space marines army if you wanted a retro look.

Or chaos marines who are a little lost temporally.

Dudeface wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
I also missed out on todays. I like the big tank, I want that for my admech as another skorpius.


I suppose the good thing with that HH box is that it would also make a good army box for a 40k space marines army if you wanted a retro look.

Or chaos marines who are a little lost temporally.

That's my plan now that I know the HH box will be a decent deal - dual purpose Alpha Legion army for 30k and 40k.

Dudeface wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
I also missed out on todays. I like the big tank, I want that for my admech as another skorpius.


I suppose the good thing with that HH box is that it would also make a good army box for a 40k space marines army if you wanted a retro look.

Or chaos marines who are a little lost temporally.

I was never a big fan of horned helmets and the like.

My 2nd iteration Night Lords avoided being too 'Chaosy'. I like the background for Talos and his squad in the Night Lords trilogy. Yes, 10 000 years had passed since the Heresy but the characters hadn't aged that time. Due to Warp craziness, they had only lived a couple of centuries and through not devoting themselves to Chaos Gods, hadn't experienced a lot of mutation or armour warping.

 ImAGeek wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Aww man. I hope they give Mortarion to Wraight, otherwise it will be Swallow, and I aaume he gets Sanguinuius too, making them both a complete writeoff for me. Would be amazing if they came out of leftfield with an Abnett or Wraight Sanguinius though.

Mortarian is Annandale.

Wamp wamp wamp waaaaammmpppp.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Aww man. I hope they give Mortarion to Wraight, otherwise it will be Swallow, and I aaume he gets Sanguinuius too, making them both a complete writeoff for me. Would be amazing if they came out of leftfield with an Abnett or Wraight Sanguinius though.

Mortarian is Annandale.

Wamp wamp wamp waaaaammmpppp.

I'm unfamiliar with his work, how low should I set my hopes for this?

I got through about half of Robute Gulliman on audiobook, it was dire. That's all I know of his work though, might not be a typical example of quality.

 Fergie0044 wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Aww man. I hope they give Mortarion to Wraight, otherwise it will be Swallow, and I aaume he gets Sanguinuius too, making them both a complete writeoff for me. Would be amazing if they came out of leftfield with an Abnett or Wraight Sanguinius though.

Mortarian is Annandale.

Wamp wamp wamp waaaaammmpppp.

I'm unfamiliar with his work, how low should I set my hopes for this?

He writes good horror but anything else is atrocious.

So it could go either way, but assume the latter based on his previous Primarch offerings.

I wouldn't expect much more than, "my sons must be tough also I hate psykers grrr" and Bolter Porn between. If he plays up the horror angle to Mortarion then it may be decent.

Oh, also I listened to Revelation of the Word (several times, as it is quite good - I imagine maybe he's maybe one of those writers that can write some good stuff, just not too much at one time and in one book? idk. I notice that with a lot of BL writers. Some great stories but then you ask them to write a whole book and it becomes unreadable).

Annandale is mixed.
Vulkan wasn’t terrible. His Beast Arises entire were ok.
Horror stuff really enjoyed.
I think the Yarrick books are good.
Various short in AoS are alright too.

Another Annandale short that I enjoyed was Iron Corpses. I also listened to True Name lately because it was a short story and I was going for a walk, it wasn't very good. Not truly offensive but I don't think I would have stuck it out if not for the circumstances. I think now that's everything that I've listened to by him. I might try some of his horror or AoS stuff this week if I can.

Danny76 wrote:
Annandale is mixed.
Vulkan wasn’t terrible. His Beast Arises entire were ok.
Horror stuff really enjoyed.
I think the Yarrick books are good.
Various short in AoS are alright too.

He is ok but I prefer others - I am not keen on his Neferata - she does not enjoy herself enough...

OK, thanks for the summary. If it has some post heresy, a Mortarion book could have some cool body horror stuff going on? But I'm guessing this will be more like The Buried Dagger and less like The Lords of Silence. Ah well

Cossposting this from the Titanicus thread:

Came across these rumors on facebook, from an unknown source on an unknown discord, poster claims to be an influencer that got preview access during the in-person WHFest events over the past few days. I'm inclined to think they are bs, but sharing it with the dakkarati for posterity just in case theres something to it.





My take - "3-5 years out from release" is a hedge for a made up rumor, its far enough out in the future that the probability of it becoming true is fairly realistic, so this dude with his made up rumor can pat himself on the back and score fake internet points for "leaking" an accurate rumor, etc. Its also highly unlikely that they are doing a playtest -especially a semi-public playtest with influencers - for something that far out from release. Its highly unlikely that they even have rules that well developed that far in advance of release. While it was somewhat the case with Adeptus Titanicus, that was only because at the last minute the decision was made to release the game in plastic instead of resin, which necessitated about 2 years of additional product development before the game could actually be released.

Talk about "expanding to Xenos" is self-hedging. If it happens, "see, told you so", if it doesn't "well it was just talk so I guess they didn't go forward with it". "Rules similar to 4th Ed Armageddon and Original BFG" is a reasonable guess, none of the specialist games have deviated that far off their original pedigree, so its reasonable to assume they will be an evolution of their original incarnations rather than a revolution in terms of game design, the more they deviate than "the more changes that had to be made as a result of playtesting for the past 3-5 years" - i.e. more hedging.

40k mechanicus to 30k is an interesting one. Haven't seen anything else to corroborate this, in general it feels unlikely given the general consensus that GW is doing its damnedest to separate the model ranges between 30k and 40k and minimize or eliminate crossover between the two. If they eliminated Casterferrum dreads and Indomitus Pattern Termie armor it doesn't make sense that they would bring 41st millennium era AdMech sculpts in. My guess is that the source here is making gak up and throwing gak at the wall to see what sticks and took a guess here without considering observable trends and implications with it. This rumor might serve as a canary in a coal mine for us - if it comes to pass then it doesn't necessarily mean the rest of the rumors are *real* but it does raise their likelihood.

Dunno what the other leaks are referring to (Traitor leaks, loyalist leaks, custodes mech and human leaks, knights leak), unless the sources name is OK_Entrepreneur or ClockworkChris, etc. the sources for many of those leaks are fairly well known. Likewise, given that all that gak was leaked weeks ago, etc. it sounds an awful lot like someone trying to take credit for reposting gak in order to legitimize themselves, etc.

But I'm a cynic and might be overthinking it.

 Fergie0044 wrote:
But I'm guessing this will be more like The Buried Dagger and less like The Lords of Silence.

Heh. The two sides of the BL coin. Never know which side the flip will reveal.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Dunno what the other leaks are referring to (Traitor leaks, loyalist leaks, custodes mech and human leaks, knights leak), unless the sources name is OK_Entrepreneur or ClockworkChris, etc. the sources for many of those leaks are fairly well known. Likewise, given that all that gak was leaked weeks ago, etc. it sounds an awful lot like someone trying to take credit for reposting gak in order to legitimize themselves, etc.

My guess is that they're referring to Traitor & Loyalist SM, Custodes, Mechanicus, Human (Solar Auxilia?), and Knights for Horus Heresy, but the author was using shorthand when they didn't need to.

Pardon if it has been answered already but when do we expect the Killteam box to drop? and when the individual teams?

Not Online!!! wrote:
Pardon if it has been answered already but when do we expect the Killteam box to drop? and when the individual teams?

It hasn't been mentioned yet but the individual teams seems to be ~6 months after release of the big box.

Box - Roughly three months after KT: Nachmund dropped.

Individual Units - Roughly in line with the KT box that follows Moroch, going by the releases from previous boxes.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Pardon if it has been answered already but when do we expect the Killteam box to drop? and when the individual teams?

Guessing the second/3rd week of June alongside the teams from nachmund, and the teams alongside the next kill team box mid to late september

chaos0xomega wrote:
Cossposting this from the Titanicus thread:

Came across these rumors on facebook, from an unknown source on an unknown discord, poster claims to be an influencer that got preview access during the in-person WHFest events over the past few days. I'm inclined to think they are bs, but sharing it with the dakkarati for posterity just in case theres something to it.

The store manager at my local GW told me BFG was coming back and that was about 6 years ago. Gonna press "X" to doubt that. The Xenos stuff coming to Titanicus is another big doubt.

many thanks, i hope though that we don't have to wait so long again for the kill team units... it was annoying enough with the kommandos.

The canary in the coal mine (40k AdMech to 30k) is looking a bit sickly - the preview today about other armies coming to 30k mentioned Ad Mech, but notably every single mini in the Ad Mech preview photo was a 30k mini - not a single 40k mini to be seen.

EDIT - Confirmation that the rumor is a load of BS by way of the mods on that discord channel

 Gert wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Cossposting this from the Titanicus thread:

Came across these rumors on facebook, from an unknown source on an unknown discord, poster claims to be an influencer that got preview access during the in-person WHFest events over the past few days. I'm inclined to think they are bs, but sharing it with the dakkarati for posterity just in case theres something to it.

The store manager at my local GW told me BFG was coming back and that was about 6 years ago. Gonna press "X" to doubt that. The Xenos stuff coming to Titanicus is another big doubt.

There's also the studio constantly outright telling people at events that Epic isn't being done.

Yep and I won't even entertain the hope of Epic until I see some non-loyalist Imperial titan models in AT. We don't even have proper corrupted variations of existing Imperial titans let alone a single non-human force.

Until those appear, the chances of Epic appearing are utterly tiny.

These rumors are the "Deus Ex gets re-installed every time someone mentions it" of tabletop gaming, for me.

I end up pining after Epic and Warmaster for months before buying a new (old) army again. LOL

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
These rumors are the "Deus Ex gets re-installed every time someone mentions it" of tabletop gaming, for me.

God damnit I don't have time for that and System Shock again this year!