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Racerguy180 wrote: Wait 3 preds for $150??ish nice, selling full squads seems to be the MO for 2.0
again that was a rumor from a saleslist, which has so far been accurate, but saleslist are notoriously shortened.
even though if it were only 2 , with all the options they will need to put in there that is still a sale on my end.
btw, can someone do me a favour and tell me wich mark Power armor sternguard and the company command squad has from the normal 40k line?
they wear highly decorated MK VII armor I belive.
interesting.. well then time to get me some old armor dudes to kit out with the bits from them for headhunters and a legio command squad.
I am fairly certain though that there are some MKVI beakies in there. Still many thinaks for confirming.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
I have browsed through the book and it looks like my least favourite rule of 7th Ed - Look out, Sir - and the tanking with characters with better armour save it led to, is gone. Am I right? If so then the ever present Artificer armour squad leader isnt going to be everywhere anymore, right.
Personally I quite like alternative activation games in general and prefer them over old school GW turn based. So Reactions is one of the things that drew me in to 2.0 now (the main one being more plastic). Should make for a less passive game with more engagement. And at least the rulebook ones dont seem to be neither OP nor pointless.
30k: EC, AL, IW
Epic30k: IH, House Coldshroud, Legio Metalica, IW, Legio Interfector, AL
40k: EC CSM, Orks
DzC/DfC: UCM
WW2 Battlegroup/Bolt Action 6-15-28mm: German 41-44, Soviet 41-43, French 1940
Well no, wounds are assigned by the player rather than the closest model like in 5th edition.
As for reactions, the Legion ones can be good but are once per game not per turn. The Blood Angels one for example allows you to charge an enemy unit after it shoots your unit but you can only do it once per game so you still have to be canny with your decision.
westiebestie wrote: Yeah I got that, but if you assign a Wound to your artificer equipped sergeant and fail, he dies. With lookout Sir you could eat the cake and have it.
That's not how "Look Out Sir!" worked. You had to declare it before taking the save on the Character, hence the Look Out part of it. If you chose to make the save on the Character and it failed, it would have to be removed.
It was essentially an ablative wound system if you happened to be getting shot by an AP2 weapon e.g. if a Tactical Sergeant was going to take a Plasma Pistol shot, you could roll to see if another Tactical Marine would take the damage instead.
Letting players assign it as opposed to closest is worse IMO.
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westiebestie wrote: So, anybody played 2.0 yet? Thoughts so far on the rules and scenarios etc?
I've got a plastic spartan, I'm content with that for 1.0, always wanted one. New scenarios don't look great but at last there aren't a tonne of them, that's good in and of itself.
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Crablezworth wrote: I've got a plastic spartan, I'm content with that for 1.0, always wanted one. New scenarios don't look great but at last there aren't a tonne of them, that's good in and of itself.
So the answer to the question of "Have you played the new edition?" is no.
I haven't had the chance to play yet. At the moment I've only got one other person to play with unless I drive to the city...which with the clusterfeth of gas prices isn't happening anytime soon. I just completed my box this morning, I have reinforcements coming in next week and my friend is still working on his salamanders. I estimate it will be about a month before I can actually play, but I'm happy to work on painting and building in the meantime.
The next big hurtle is to wait for a FW restock as everything I want to order for my 15th legion is currently out of stock!
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Crablezworth wrote: I've got a plastic spartan, I'm content with that for 1.0, always wanted one. New scenarios don't look great but at last there aren't a tonne of them, that's good in and of itself.
So the answer to the question of "Have you played the new edition?" is no.
Why not though? Seriously, most of the rules haven't changed and for the most part, those that have are better off and reactions aren't nearly as powerful as gak-stirrers like TOC made them out to be.
I mean you don't even have to buy the rules because they've been on the internet for like 2 weeks now. So legitimately what is stopping you from even trying the new edition of the game?
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Don't tell Gert that
There's a difference between not having time because life, and what you seem to be doing which is actively avoiding it because you trust a clickbait YouTube channel with an axe to grind over just trying it yourself.
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Why do you need to rebase? Does anyone seriously care about base sizes that much?
I suppose if you play with people who are strict with rules, blast marker placement, movement, who is in/out of close combat, etc., then base sizes can be important. The less casual you and your playgroup are, the less important using the newer base sizes are. It may certainly matter if you want to play in organized events, or with people outside of your normal playgroup.
But you can buy or make base extenders without having to rebase models, it's just a question of how much having a blank 3.5mm ring around the old base bugs you.
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
Marines switched from 25mm to 32mm some years back.
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
westiebestie wrote: So, anybody played 2.0 yet? Thoughts so far on the rules and scenarios etc?
i have played a few games and i love it. the only thing that got me worried is how to kill dreads with out using dreads. meltas are to short range and the dread walks away for its reaction. i am thinking lots of plasma just for the 4+ AP2 force it to take 5+ invuln. but other wise i love it.
I think it is. Any unit in a real military will back off from a weapon that could kill you. tanks do it all the time. Shoot and back down into cover. well the wests tanks do. eastern tanks dont realy have a reverse gear
I think it is. Any unit in a real military will back off from a weapon that could kill you. tanks do it all the time. Shoot and back down into cover. well the wests tanks do. eastern tanks dont realy have a reverse gear
But only once per turn. Once the first tank has moved backwards the rest of them have to wait their turn, it wouldn't be polite to have them get too greedy with being allowed to move.
I think it is. Any unit in a real military will back off from a weapon that could kill you. tanks do it all the time. Shoot and back down into cover. well the wests tanks do. eastern tanks dont realy have a reverse gear
But only once per turn. Once the first tank has moved backwards the rest of them have to wait their turn, it wouldn't be polite to have them get too greedy with being allowed to move.
True. the reaction system is cool. it makes me have to think more during there turn and mine.
I think it is. Any unit in a real military will back off from a weapon that could kill you. tanks do it all the time. Shoot and back down into cover. well the wests tanks do. eastern tanks dont realy have a reverse gear
But only once per turn. Once the first tank has moved backwards the rest of them have to wait their turn, it wouldn't be polite to have them get too greedy with being allowed to move.
True. the reaction system is cool. it makes me have to think more during there turn and mine.
which is a good thing, it makes tactics more important
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
The reactions system takes the tactical side out of the game, because you can correct your mistake and simply avoid being charged or shoot at.
While before you had to carefully think about placement, moving, lines of sights etc
And both players / armies are supposed to be playing at the same time, the turn system is just a way to represent this, moving during the opponent's turn doesn't make sense except maybe for particular
(usually speedy) units with some special rule likes the Tau battlesuits had
And there is only a handful reactions isn't a good argument when there is only a few units on the table. How many palatine blades squads will be on the battlefield ? How many terminator units ? Usually, one, maybe two in a 3,000 pts army. Avoiding this important, decisive assault, not because you are good but because you pushed a button and winning like this, is definitely not good
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