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It all looks nice enough, but I wish gw would push the boat out a but further with the imperial guard. Why does it have to be Cadians yet again? There are so many regiments to choose from. I'd love to see something totally new.

No doubt the Rogal Dorn tank will be a classic Astra Millawhatnow tank that has been destroying the Emperor's foes for millennia... just off camera.. behind that smoke cloud.

To my eyes, that Infantry has stylings of Armageddon Steel Legion (chap next to grenade laucher on left), slim downed Cadians (centre chap next to plasma gunner and the Command team), and classic Imperial Army/Elyssian (chap running on right next to officer).

Whats the likelihood of a mixed look regiment box?

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Whats the likelihood of a mixed look regiment box?

The box comes with enough parts to make 1 Vostroyan, 1 Catachan, 1 Mordian/Praetorian, 1 Valhallan, 1 Tallarn, 1 Cadian, 1 old-style Cadian, 1 Steel Legion/Death Korp, and one Necromundan 8th.

You need 10 boxes to do a single squad of any, and, in keeping with the spirit of 2nd Ed Guard, certain special weapons are incompatible with certain members of the squad, so the Grenade Launcher doesn't fit with the Cadians, the Plasma Gun won't work on the Mordians or Valhallans, and the Flamer doesn't go with the Tallarn body. Inexplicably, the Steel Legion and Catachan body will take any weapon type.

The sentinel bodies look like they have symmetrical hardpoints. The armored one has that searchlight, but the scout variant looks like it has a heavy bolter arm.
Wonder if we'll see more ccw types?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
No doubt the Rogal Dorn tank will be a classic Astra Millawhatnow tank that has been destroying the Emperor's foes for millennia... just off camera.. behind that smoke cloud.

They keep it in the same garages as the Siegfrieds, Ragnaroks, Praetors, Crassus, Carnodons, Excertus, Macharius, Malcadors, and Testudos.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Whats the likelihood of a mixed look regiment box?

The box comes with enough parts to make 1 Vostroyan, 1 Catachan, 1 Mordian/Praetorian, 1 Valhallan, 1 Tallarn, 1 Cadian, 1 old-style Cadian, 1 Steel Legion/Death Korp, and one Necromundan 8th.

You need 10 boxes to do a single squad of any, and, in keeping with the spirit of 2nd Ed Guard, certain special weapons are incompatible with certain members of the squad, so the Grenade Launcher doesn't fit with the Cadians, the Plasma Gun won't work on the Mordians or Valhallans, and the Flamer doesn't go with the Tallarn body. Inexplicably, the Steel Legion and Catachan body will take any weapon type.

SHHHH stop giving them ideas!

But for real though, I'm glad that they're giving Cadians a proper refresh across the range because I was very worried with the recent Cadian upgrade kit they were going to release a few standalone kits and ignore the aging range and call it day. Kasrkin look sick, as does the new Commissar and I'm actually okay with Creed 2.0 too (sad there's no Kell equivalent though). Mixed feelings about the Sentinel being too round (will have to see the 360 view) and I'm hoping the Rogal Dorn actually looks suitably blocky closer to a Baneblade or the new Kratos tank than something rounded/too admech like the new Sentinel is.

The real question is are they going to update the roided up oldies that is the Catachan kit?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 FrothingMuppet wrote:
Whats the likelihood of a mixed look regiment box?

The box comes with enough parts to make 1 Vostroyan, 1 Catachan, 1 Mordian/Praetorian, 1 Valhallan, 1 Tallarn, 1 Cadian, 1 old-style Cadian, 1 Steel Legion/Death Korp, and one Necromundan 8th.

You need 10 boxes to do a single squad of any, and, in keeping with the spirit of 2nd Ed Guard, certain special weapons are incompatible with certain members of the squad, so the Grenade Launcher doesn't fit with the Cadians, the Plasma Gun won't work on the Mordians or Valhallans, and the Flamer doesn't go with the Tallarn body. Inexplicably, the Steel Legion and Catachan body will take any weapon type.

All the arms will be in a separate "Special Weapons" box like the new HH.

So, Heavy bolter, Autocannon and missile launcher weapon teams at least.

Regular infantry look like they're sporting packs (lighter element can be seen behind helmet - a bedroll ?).
If so, hope they're optional and can be left off without having a huge hole in the back.

The trooper between grenader launcher guy and plasma dude, is that a regular lasgun ?

I would hope that the Cadian infantry doesn't get any larger. They're already too big.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I would hope that the Cadian infantry doesn't get any larger. They're already too big.

Why would you worry about this? All new human infantry since the Skitarii have been properly proportioned (with the possible exception of SoB, though I think that their extra height comes mainly from their power armor).

 crumby_cataphract wrote:
Why would you worry about this? All new human infantry since the Skitarii have been properly proportioned (with the possible exception of SoB, though I think that their extra height comes mainly from their power armor).

The Necromunda humans are massive.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 crumby_cataphract wrote:
Why would you worry about this? All new human infantry since the Skitarii have been properly proportioned (with the possible exception of SoB, though I think that their extra height comes mainly from their power armor).

The Necromunda humans are massive.

Yeah, my friend used the palanite enforcers as stand-in scouts for his SM army for a reason.

Damnit GW, plastic HH, Squats and now IG where the basic troopers don't look awful?

 AlexiusAxouchos wrote:
Sentinel leaked too:

God damn I love this model...


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 necrontyrOG wrote:
Kasrkin

God damnit I don't want to collect another army...

 Daedalus81 wrote:
God damnit I don't want to collect another army...

If you collect every army, then you can never be tempted to start a new one!

So it looks like the Cadians will get a full range refresh. We have the HQ, the elites, the fast attack and the heavy support and a new troops box.

The new squad in the background is a bit worrying as it doesn't contain a heavy weapon, aside from potentially the heavy stubber.

I wonder when they will relase more detail.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 crumby_cataphract wrote:
Why would you worry about this? All new human infantry since the Skitarii have been properly proportioned (with the possible exception of SoB, though I think that their extra height comes mainly from their power armor).

The Necromunda humans are massive.

I'd wager these new troopers will be closer to the Krieg than the Delaque.

Dirk Reinecke wrote:

I wonder when they will relase more detail.

Could be today, could be ten months from now. Who knows why madmen do what they do?

I take back what I said, I am impressed. This is a complete overhaul of Cadia. This is a good start, I hope they won't leave the other regiments hanging for too long.

Side note, the Infantry Squad has, from what I can see, no Sergeant with CCW and Pistol Combo. But I can only count 9 Guardsmen anyway, so maybe I'm missing him?
There are 2 Special Weapons, so maybe the rumour is true, no more HW and instead 2SW per Squad. The Las Rifles are difficult to see, but they look more like carbines or shotguns.

I'm curious how they fix HWSs, because if they stay in Heavy Support they are DOA except for smaller games. Hopefully they are a free slot per Infantry Squad or Platoons are back or something.

The Kasrkin are great, they look imposing. If the entire line looks like this, the IG will be a little less comic. Which is another plus. Current Cadians look like potatoes with helmets on, even with the new head kit.

I really like the new Commissar. Oozes off fear and control. Way better than the prancing ghouls and fat blabbermouths we had so far.

Just noticed the Kasarkin bases are totally different style to the rest which suggests they're a separate release, likely kill team.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

Dirk Reinecke wrote:

I wonder when they will relase more detail.

Could be today, could be ten months from now. Who knows why madmen do what they do?

Hopefully sooner. GW sometimes follow leaks with an official announcement to combat the potato cam photos. Maybe they feel like they're taking back some control.

 crumby_cataphract wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I would hope that the Cadian infantry doesn't get any larger. They're already too big.

Why would you worry about this? All new human infantry since the Skitarii have been properly proportioned (with the possible exception of SoB, though I think that their extra height comes mainly from their power armor).

But they haven't. The Necromunda and BSF Traitor Guard are bigger than the plastic Cadians, which were already oversized.

Looks like the spotter/loader for the missile launcher has a vox caster. Would be nice for heavy weapons teams to be on the comm-net for a change.

The Kasrkin are great and I really like Lady Creed.

alphaecho wrote:


Hopefully sooner. GW sometimes follow leaks with an official announcement to combat the potato cam photos. Maybe they feel like they're taking back some control.

It depends on how far away from release these models are. If they already have all the promotional photos done it's pretty quick to throw together an article, but models that are 6+ months out may not be fully photographed yet.

The material for leaks like the Avatar & Tyranid Parasite were ready to go, but the Horus Heresy leaks we got a year ago went by without any official acknowledgement.

Meh on the Sentinel. It went from a straight AT-ST ripoff to a generic direct-to-TV-movie sci fi clone.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
No doubt the Rogal Dorn tank will be a classic Astra Millawhatnow tank that has been destroying the Emperor's foes for millennia... just off camera.. behind that smoke cloud.

At least they waited until GW relearned how to make good vehicles.

That 2008 IG wave with the Baneblade and Valk were AWESOME.

But most vehicles from the 2010s were just embarrassingly bad. The Storm Raven and Storm Talon especially come to mind, and most of the Primaris vehicles.

But the SoB and HH stuff has been great so I have high hopes for this

I have no love for the Leman Russ and the Chimera. They always looked so much worse to me than the SM vehicles from around that era.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Meh on the Sentinel. It went from a straight AT-ST ripoff to a generic direct-to-TV-movie sci fi clone.

Just bought a pair of the old ones just in case they do go.

As much as the models look great, it is super lazy to not paint a Kasrkin unit with matching bases. Very weird choice for a marketing picture.