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This whole release is making me wonder whether it's a good idea to have the model makers be at the top of the food chain.

 kurhanik wrote:

Fabio Bile wrote:You might sorta salvage it by swapping the base for a pile of dead and dying Guardsmen to contrast against Mr. Fancy Pants. Like the top half looks like a propaganda poster, but then you pan down and the horse's legs are covered in blood and grime and there's guys feebly reaching up to the hero who won't even look their way. That'd be Imperial Guard, that'd be 40K, and you wouldn't need to read the background for it to be clear.

That reminds me of discarded idea I had from an Only War campaign I ran years and years ago. I believe I gave the players the option of a warzone type they would be deployed in, and if they chose the planet in rebellion one I was going to have them throw dozens of characters into a kill zone just so that their commander could pose heroically on their horse for a propaganda pic.

Andykp wrote:The model is fine, I agree it suits for the Lord solar, if it was a generic guard commander it would suck but it’s a fancy pants special character who is one of the most senior officers in the imperial guard (if not the most?-I don’t know). He should have fancy gear, even says he’s into rejuvenants and stuff.

My issue is, it’s a special character, I dislike those and have since they first turned up in the game. No way that guy is turning up in all but the biggest fights, and really he should never be anywhere near the fight.

I do want his base for my ORK warboss though.

Yup, if there is a generic build and lots of options in the kit it might be really cool overall. If its a single build, no options kit, meh.

That’s it! Couldn’t put my finger on it, the new squat Kharl is a nice model that makes a generic leader or a special character. This guy just makes a special character that looks like nothing else in the range.

If only...

Ride closer! I want to hit him with my claw!

More Imperial...

 cole1114 wrote:
Honestly I didn't even want attendants, I wanted an imperial guard version of a living saint. When I think of Macharius, it's this image and it's what I wish this guy was like.

Oh man, that would have been so much better.

 insaniak wrote:
More Imperial...

The guy polishing his horse's armour is perfect.

It's disheartening that that isn't part of the official model because that alone would add so much character to it.

The two heads might be a bit much.

Even just the same level of armour and decoration as Solar Macharius would have made a difference. The lack of thigh armour, full chest plate with collar, bracers and fur-lined cape are small changes but they make him seem less important.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
If only...

That's glorious !
Now that's a model I could like

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
This whole release is making me wonder whether it's a good idea to have the model makers be at the top of the food chain.

I don't think this is the model makers though. I have a suspicion that the sculptor made a model for AoS, then marketing came along and said "hey, we need something for the Astra Militarum. Slap some aquilas and give it a fancy base and we'll sell it as part of their range".

That's not how it works.

Looks great. One of the best in the bunch. Absolutely love it.

Not following any of this but somebody had asked to shop in a krieger so I figured I might as well drop it here as well.

What is the rumor about how giving orders has changed? Someone said models deepstriking in would no longer be able to have orders given to them???

General Hobbs wrote:


What is the rumor about how giving orders has changed? Someone said models deepstriking in would no longer be able to have orders given to them???

The leak (not just a rumor) is that orders are given in the command phase, which means units arriving via deep strike would not yet be on the table to receive them.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And now I have this in my brain:

Spoiler:

Dudeface wrote:
I find it odd that there wasn't a want, need or even a single request I've seen for a lord solar model. They plucked something totally unexpected out of an orifice and somehow managed to make it... bland at best? I actually find the old empire guy on mechanical horse more 40k looking than this guy.

They could have done a great new Commissar Yarrick rather than Lord Horseyman.

Instead, they removed the most iconic Guard character in 40k history from the game.

You don't understand. It's that GW decided to give us a figure of Lord Solar Whoever posing for victory picture. Obviously it was the range missing from the IG product line.

M.

Aecus Decimus wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:


What is the rumor about how giving orders has changed? Someone said models deepstriking in would no longer be able to have orders given to them???

The leak (not just a rumor) is that orders are given in the command phase, which means units arriving via deep strike would not yet be on the table to receive them.

There's also a workaround rumour where there is a way to give an order(s) in later phases for this exact situation

What a lame lord model. Holy moly. I think the helmet looks off as well as the weird smoothness of it all. Ah well a new character to convert rules pending.

edit: Wrong thread

 insaniak wrote:
More Imperial...

Perfection! The polishing guy really makes it work. Wargames Exclusive?

Just add the dead and dying guardsman base someone suggested, and maybe swap the twin horse heads for the twin eagle heads from the Griffon rider and you have something.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Amber-Battle-Wizard-on-Imperial-Griffon

In fact I wonder if the griffon would work? Leave off the wings, keep the 2 heads, IG officer body... Yeah.

The new elector count with runefang and clockwork horse is awesome!

Not sure about the base though, is it some skaven scrap or something?

i miss command squads...

especially command squads that actually look like they contain an officer and not the newest swiss-watch transportation system project with a parade gockel on top.

For refference, why not make something along the style of the DKoK marshall, the Solar auxilia one that was posted? Hell even the R&H command squad looks sensible compared to this monstrosity for use in an Imperial army.

 insaniak wrote:
More Imperial...

Really makes me wish this dude was still in production. I picked one up before he disappeared but now I wish I had 2 more.

Maybe I should get that Griffon and some outsiders while I still can.

scarletsquig wrote:
The new elector count with runefang and clockwork horse is awesome!

Not sure about the base though, is it some skaven scrap or something?

It's the head of a Chaos frog daemon engine.

And just to say, I'm actually dead serious about this. People voiced their disbelief earlier that someone might look at the Lord Solar for the first time and mistake it for an AoS model, but the titan head does not deviate from Chaos contraptions that exist in AoS in such a way that it would look immediately out of place.

Realistically the biggest giveaway that this is not a model straight out of AoS is the concrete and steel rubble on the base. And that's pretty far down the list of details that draw attention from first time viewers.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Awful model, totally off point with what it should be.

He should have attendants etc swarming all over him, feeding him data etc.

Aw you're making me weep for what could have been.

Lord Solar at a command table, surrounded by mentats, officers, and some honor guard guys.

As long as he's stationary he gets strategy points and issues 4 orders and whatever.

Or you can pull them off the display base and now you have Lord Solar and a couple of badass dudes looking to kick ass (but lose the big picture benefits).

Ah well.

Next edition.

Basically, this (without the table)



It captures the absolute mental bureaucracy of the imperium also. The Lord Solar actually wouldn't be able to get on a battlefield he'd have so much stuff to sign off every day.

Glad they didn’t go with the “make it a command squad with more bling on” route but something like this would have been awesome. I don’t like special characters but would have got a diorama piece like this just to paint up. Not seen that picture before, it would’ve been great.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The two heads might be a bit much.

Yep, they need to be surgically transplanted eagle heads

I love the addition of the Polishing Servitor in the photoshopped picture, it makes the awkward pose into just that, a pose struck before recording some propaganda video for the troops.

You know, Lord Solar just sitting on a biomechanical horse while a line scribes and advisors and whatnot would akwardly try to show him some reports with few bodyguards around would had been very approriate.

Edit: And of course servitor polishing his horse. So cool.

Looking at the retouched images; I think my initial impression of the lord solar was a lot to do with the very low overall contrast in the colour scheme. The black panelling on the armour in particular is great but I figure any strong contrast would enhance the look a lot. A nice imperial purple for example. Lean into the whole “noble officer” bit.
And a baton instead of the sword… I mean he’s a general not a berserker. If he has to personally kill things, someone screwed up.
But also the polishing server off of High Marshal Helbrecht’s retinue is a really nice touch.