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 GaroRobe wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:
It shouldn't matter if Yarrick died or not. Corbels is dead and you can run him besides Primaris units.

It matters if they remove the option. There are dead characters in 40k (quite a few if you count Gaunt's Ghosts), but most of them are no longer playable. Given that 40k is a setting though, you would think they'd be okay with a lot more dead characters floating around.

Heck, WFH was full of dead characters. Azhag, Gorbad allegedly, Grom, King Alrik, etc were all dead before the End Times ever happened, but there was no issue running them

You miss my grand point of Corbulo being ran next to Primaris

What’s the issue with him?

 GaroRobe wrote:
What’s the issue with him?

He died before Primaris were introduced in the setting, but in game they can be ran next to each other.

Corbulo is expressly alive whilst Primaris are around. Is someone confusing him with Tycho?

Someone posted on FB that Kasrkin are on 28mm bases, not 25. Grrrrr

Would Kill Team models have different bases?

General Hobbs wrote:

Someone posted on FB that Kasrkin are on 28mm bases, not 25. Grrrrr

Would Kill Team models have different bases?

Krieg and Blooded are on 25mm so no.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Someone on Facebook is reporting Yarrick is killed in a footnote in the new codex.

Sounds about right for "New GW".

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Corbulo is expressly alive whilst Primaris are around. Is someone confusing him with Tycho?

Oh yeah, my bad. Combi-Melta and power hand dude

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Yarrick can't die because Ghazghkull won't let 'im. And the Prophet of the Waaagh has enough Orky "belief = reality" to keep the old man running.

The belibc reality is overhyped by fans. Canon it's not that big thing. More of oil lube than magic. No empty box doesn't shoot because ork believes.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Yarrick can't die because Ghazghkull won't let 'im. And the Prophet of the Waaagh has enough Orky "belief = reality" to keep the old man running.

The "Ork Belief = Reality" isn't actually a thing like that at all.

Yarrick is even the most obvious example of how it isn't, because Orks believed he could kill them just by glaring - he couldn't actually and they didn't just fall dead when he did that, so he went and got a laser eye fitted.

Just because it didn't DIRECTLY cause it doesn't mean it wasn't the cause - da orks believed Yarrick could kill with a glance, he got a laser eye fitted BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED IT, and their belief was vindicated!

Same way the Imperium may pump Yarrick full of life-extending bionics just to use him as a rallying point figurehead against Ghazghkull, which is just wot da orks want!

Valrak mentioned Yarrick may potentially have been killed by Angron in his video about it. Pure speculation, but the image of Angron fighting Guard models, and Angron likely coming back on Armageddon makes this a neat theory...

Ghazghkull is going to absolutely be FURIOUS if that is the case though, and a great way to set up a big Orks versus World Eaters clash.

Edit. Still really bummed out about it though. Yarrick is my favorite mortal character, with a few others from various sources trailing behind. Every Guard army I have ever purchased has began with Yarrick, because no other old human is so angry enough to come out of retirement like he did just to cave in some skulls.

Guard are really losing a lot named well liked characters for... Ursula :C

To be honest, I am surprised they mention him at all. That is the highest form of distinction they ever did. Usually with IG, if something drops OOP, it's simply not mentioned anymore. But it's not like GW is giving much about the IG characters at all. Just look at Creed who as of 3rd edition was a great General that not only rose up to the challenge of the Tyroc fields, but supposedly survived the 13th Black Crusade and would lead on the Cadian 8th in a manner that would make him popular all over the Galaxy (real Lord Solar potential instead of Leroy Arcadia out of nowhere). He was the real poster boy, even on the Cover of the Codex.

As of now: Retconned into an upstart with great potential and a genius mind, but was overshadowed and a mere lower ranking General footnote. That in the end held Cadia for 100 days and then lost and disappeared. Why anyone outside of Cadia should know him is beyond me.

Same goes with any other characters. I'd be surprised if they even mentioned the war for Armageddon and the Steel Legion in 2 editions anymore. No model = no background.

I much prefer 40k be a setting rather than a story. Having said this, I like to have new characters enter the setting and if this necessitates killing old characters then I'm all for it. I really like what they did with Tycho, he was always one of my favourites and when they killed him, put a date on the event, and also introduced DC Tycho (something that's obviously not going to be the norm when killing characters) I was very satisfied with this despite that it meant losing Tycho. I say all this from the perspective of a non-gamer.

I'm perfectly fine with characters dying, but they deserve fitting deaths. If Yarrick gets a small blurb about his death, it will be disappointing. In addition, they could keep his rules. It's not like they're super complex.

I guess it could be worse. Yarrick could have gotten the Last of Us 2 treatment.

M.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Someone on Facebook is reporting Yarrick is killed in a footnote in the new codex.

Sigh...

This actually kinda fits 40K...

"...But the universe is a big place and, whatever happens, you will not be missed..."

It will be a book for sure at some point, 50/50 on if stays dead. Or survived and here is a new mini !

 Arbitrator wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:

Someone posted on FB that Kasrkin are on 28mm bases, not 25. Grrrrr

Would Kill Team models have different bases?

Krieg and Blooded are on 25mm so no.

Kasrkin were in 28s in some pics, though.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:

Someone posted on FB that Kasrkin are on 28mm bases, not 25. Grrrrr

Would Kill Team models have different bases?

Krieg and Blooded are on 25mm so no.

Kasrkin were in 28s in some pics, though.

Yeap, they seem to have bigger base sizes. I have the Blooded and I can confirm that regular guard are on 25mm bases, while the Enforcer is on a 32mm

 BlackoCatto wrote:
Guard are really losing a lot named well liked characters for... Ursula :C

And the bland cavalry guy

 Mr Morden wrote:

 BlackoCatto wrote:
Guard are really losing a lot named well liked characters for... Ursula :C

And the bland cavalry guy

So Ursula replaced Yarrick?!

What a dumpster fire!

 TheBestBucketHead wrote:
I'm perfectly fine with characters dying, but they deserve fitting deaths.

Dunno about this one, personally. A random ork shoota boy gutting Yarrick with a lucky shot and the old man just dropping into the dirt like a bean of sacks to disappear in the endless carpet of corpses - with his skull being only assumedly recovered and nobody really remembering his name or his deeds a week later - sounds nicely grimdark. The only problem I can see is that there isn't much tradition for this kind of stuff in the fluff, so it would most likely go over people's heads.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 BlackoCatto wrote:
Guard are really losing a lot named well liked characters for... Ursula :C

And the bland cavalry guy

Leave the whfb elector count alone!
He is the first support gw did show for whfb in years!
/sarcasm.

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 BlackoCatto wrote:
Guard are really losing a lot named well liked characters for... Ursula :C

And the bland cavalry guy

So Ursula replaced Yarrick?!

What a dumpster fire!

Ursala replaced her father who isn’t dead and can come back in another edition. To be fair any missing not confirmed dead person can come back as a pokeball.

 Stormonu wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Someone on Facebook is reporting Yarrick is killed in a footnote in the new codex.

Sigh...

This actually kinda fits 40K...

"...But the universe is a big place and, whatever happens, you will not be missed..."

Cool.

Now kindly apply that to, say, Space Marine characters.

General Hobbs wrote:

Someone posted on FB that Kasrkin are on 28mm bases, not 25. Grrrrr

Would Kill Team models have different bases?

No. Kasrkin are on 28mm bases.

It's not unreasonable. They'd look janky on 32mm bases, but the 28mm base makes a slightly noticeable difference to the "standard" Cadian Shock Troops.

If any faction is losing named character, it makes sense for guard, they have the shortest life span and the time in the setting has jumped forward a good bit.

Also, guard are the least sense to have named characters, they are supposed to be the nameless masses of humanity against a wave of horror. We certainly don’t need named characters for all the regiments they have, I would prefer a way to specialify your own characters and pay a price for that, which is something they have done in recent books, but I’d like it expanded with guard. Make your own hero’s.

Andykp wrote:
If any faction is losing named character, it makes sense for guard, they have the shortest life span and the time in the setting has jumped forward a good bit.

Also, guard are the least sense to have named characters, they are supposed to be the nameless masses of humanity against a wave of horror. We certainly don’t need named characters for all the regiments they have, I would prefer a way to specialify your own characters and pay a price for that, which is something they have done in recent books, but I’d like it expanded with guard. Make your own hero’s.

Actually, that honour goes to the Tau (excepting Ethereals it seems), with Farsight explictly only alive because of the Dawnblade. Unclear what is sustaining Shadowsun at this point.

Yeah, Tau are supposed to have shorter life spans than humans.
Necrontyr lifespans would probably be less than humans' too.

Ethereals probably use some sort of super exclusive medical technology, some age old secret that is known only to their caste (like diet, meditation or something of that nature) or maybe their caste is just long lived compared to the others.

After all, Queen Bees live for a year, whereas worker bees live for a month.

 Haighus wrote:

Andykp wrote:
If any faction is losing named character, it makes sense for guard, they have the shortest life span and the time in the setting has jumped forward a good bit.

Also, guard are the least sense to have named characters, they are supposed to be the nameless masses of humanity against a wave of horror. We certainly don’t need named characters for all the regiments they have, I would prefer a way to specialify your own characters and pay a price for that, which is something they have done in recent books, but I’d like it expanded with guard. Make your own hero’s.

Actually, that honour goes to the Tau (excepting Ethereals it seems), with Farsight explictly only alive because of the Dawnblade. Unclear what is sustaining Shadowsun at this point.

Lots of time in the freezer. They keep Shadowsun in stasis and defrost her whenever they need her to run an important campaign.