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For clarification the AM coin was available from the 7th of January, it is the Guardsman miniature of the month that is available from the 28th...but your point stands.

GW still does not know what deltoids and bicepts are meant to look like. Deltoid is meant to just cap over the top of the arm and the bicept is two muscles not three, and you should not be able to see that level of definition on the outside of the arm. Its pretty simple stuff. And the bald head seems to be some variety of pinky tau? They tried to make him frowning but instead of two vertical folds between his eyes he has a horizontal one which to me makes him look like he has a prosthetic nose... axe is a bit funny only on account of being on an infantrymans arm. Sure every afv has pioneer tools like wood axes attached to it but the crew arm would be more suitable. And everyone knows infantrymen use shovels a hell of a lot more...if the knives are meant to be to scale they are a bit useless. They are too big for that style of general purpose knife- they are machete sized without the strength of being machete shaped, things like K-bars are not machete sized and work well in their role as a soldier's knoif for a reason. Some saw backed short machetes would have been better, along with some reasonable knives, if they are meant to be veterans some smaller fighting knives like the fairbairn and Stykes would be cool, they're a good size and shape for doing that kind of business. Other than that its really quite a respectable upgrade sprue. I like the rope. Its a really good addition. No entrenching tools so iam not sure how these guys actually expect to survive.

Well, I am pretty sure the knives are actually sword-bayonets, and they look entirely reasonable examples of such.

 OldMate wrote:
GW still does not know what deltoids and bicepts are meant to look like. Deltoid is meant to just cap over the top of the arm and the bicept is two muscles not three, and you should not be able to see that level of definition on the outside of the arm. Its pretty simple stuff. And the bald head seems to be some variety of pinky tau? They tried to make him frowning but instead of two vertical folds between his eyes he has a horizontal one which to me makes him look like he has a prosthetic nose... axe is a bit funny only on account of being on an infantrymans arm. Sure every afv has pioneer tools like wood axes attached to it but the crew arm would be more suitable. And everyone knows infantrymen use shovels a hell of a lot more...if the knives are meant to be to scale they are a bit useless. They are too big for that style of general purpose knife- they are machete sized without the strength of being machete shaped, things like K-bars are not machete sized and work well in their role as a soldier's knoif for a reason. Some saw backed short machetes would have been better, along with some reasonable knives, if they are meant to be veterans some smaller fighting knives like the fairbairn and Stykes would be cool, they're a good size and shape for doing that kind of business. Other than that its really quite a respectable upgrade sprue. I like the rope. Its a really good addition. No entrenching tools so iam not sure how these guys actually expect to survive.

Perhaps you expect to much from an upgrade kit.
Hold on, why do they announce an upgrade kit before the product its supposed to fix is actually on sale? Thats like releasing an errata for warlord traits before you release the proper codex, right?

 Haighus wrote:
Well, I am pretty sure the knives are actually sword-bayonets, and they look entirely reasonable examples of such.

Youre completely right, i completely missed the rifle with bayonet attached. Now the hilarious thing is why it HAS TO be a sword bayonet. Its not mounted on the end of the rifle, to get a regular bayonet legth of steel past the muzzle it needs to ne a sword bayonet LOL.

I like the wire cutters and the medic's blood bag though. They are always a good addition. There is a lot of good bits.


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Perhaps you expect to much from an upgrade kit.
Hold on, why do they announce an upgrade kit before the product its supposed to fix is actually on sale? Thats like releasing an errata for warlord traits before you release the proper codex, right?

Well i do not think its a bad idea releasing them both at the same time, an upgrade sprue with more options is always welcome and it will sell alongside the sta dard kit pretty well so there is no point in holding off releasing it. i like most the items its just that some are of less utility. And GW's lack of understanding of human musculature is fun to point and jeer at.
I mean ultimately its nothing a hobby knife won't quickly and easily fix.

Some people will be fine with this I’m sure, but I have to say that announcing an upgrade sprue with parts that could easily have been (and in days gone by would have been) part of the main kit *before it’s even out* feels pretty tacky to me: It’s got big ‘day 1 DLC content that was blatantly cut from the disc’ energy.

Can’t say I’m surprised though, this is kind of where they’ve been going for a while now.

 OldMate wrote:
GW still does not know what deltoids and bicepts are meant to look like. Deltoid is meant to just cap over the top of the arm and the bicept is two muscles not three, and you should not be able to see that level of definition on the outside of the arm. Its pretty simple stuff.

The arm is not showing the 3x muscles on the bicep, it is not even showing the 2x muscles of biceps, it is showing the bicep, the brachialis and the lateral head of the tricep and is anatomically correct.... A bit forged in the hellfires of the most holy roid juice, but correct. The deltoids are also correct for very developed deltoids, again, most commonly found on body builders but they can come quite considerably down onto the arm, mine certainly do.

Roll Three Dice wrote:
Some people will be fine with this I’m sure, but I have to say that announcing an upgrade sprue with parts that could easily have been (and in days gone by would have been) part of the main kit *before it’s even out* feels pretty tacky to me: It’s got big ‘day 1 DLC content that was blatantly cut from the disc’ energy.

Can’t say I’m surprised though, this is kind of where they’ve been going for a while now.

We don't know when GW planned on announcing this particular item nor releasing it beyond the "heels of the Cadian Shock Troops box" statement in the article.

We do know that pictures had escaped into the wild and nowadays GW doesn't ignore those unplanned releases. Instead they rapidly provide a proper preview to cut down on speculation and give everyone a good look at the spoiled product.

Personally, I wouldn't be too putout if GW released a decent full kit along with a simultaneous release of an upgrade kit. That seems to be the case here, so why no enjoy a little optional bonus?

Pictures were out in the wild looooong before any of that eBayer's pics of stolen goods.

The parts are literally shown in the codex.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Pictures were out in the wild looooong before any of that eBayer's pics of stolen goods.

Stolen goods? Are you actually angry at someone scooping GW?

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:

 OldMate wrote:
GW still does not know what deltoids and bicepts are meant to look like. Deltoid is meant to just cap over the top of the arm and the bicept is two muscles not three, and you should not be able to see that level of definition on the outside of the arm. Its pretty simple stuff.

The arm is not showing the 3x muscles on the bicep, it is not even showing the 2x muscles of biceps, it is showing the bicep, the brachialis and the lateral head of the tricep and is anatomically correct.... A bit forged in the hellfires of the most holy roid juice, but correct. The deltoids are also correct for very developed deltoids, again, most commonly found on body builders but they can come quite considerably down onto the arm, mine certainly do.

Found a picture of the condition you describe. Am currently washing my eyeballs. As i always say, though, better more material than less. You can always trim their arms down to a more sensible size if you don't want your shor sleeved Cadians to just be miniature catachans with body armour.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Pictures were out in the wild looooong before any of that eBayer's pics of stolen goods.

That's a very bold claim you're making. Do you have proof that it was stolen goods or are you committing an act of libel by accusing the seller of a crime without any evidence?

Probably that second one. I highly doubt GW has the issue of "lunchtime special" they do over in Vietnam and China.

Commissar Yarrick and more on Made to Order.

It's fairly Commissar heavy. Plus two metal Inquisitors.

Hmm, I would actually like those commissars, particularly the metal ones. Shame some of them are still finecast.

Another chance to own the classic Yarrick!

My only wish now, would be 3rd-ed banshees and a 2nd-ed Screamer-Killer. Life would be complete.

Finally, the last Commissar from 3rd Ed that I needed!


And the last metal Commissar from 5th edition I needed.



Powerfist Commissars never made it into any of my old lists, but I always liked the models.

 Haighus wrote:
Hmm, I would actually like those commissars, particularly the metal ones. Shame some of them are still finecast.

The only things that are resin are Yarrick, Raine, the Lord-Commissar, and Creed.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
Hmm, I would actually like those commissars, particularly the metal ones. Shame some of them are still finecast.

The only things that are resin are Yarrick, Raine, the Lord-Commissar, and Creed.

Yeah, and Raine was never metal. Still, I would have preferred a metal version of the Lord-Commissar.

 KidCthulhu wrote:
Finally, the last Commissar from 3rd Ed that I needed!

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And the last metal Commissar from 5th edition I needed.

Spoiler:

Powerfist Commissars never made it into any of my old lists, but I always liked the models.

Same, except it's the Commissar Lord. You certain these are metal? / Oh, says Lord is resin.

Finally I shall have a pointing gun hand behind back commissar.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
Hmm, I would actually like those commissars, particularly the metal ones. Shame some of them are still finecast.

The only things that are resin are Yarrick, Raine, the Lord-Commissar, and Creed.

Warhammer Community wrote:Along with Yarrick and Raine, you’ll also be able to pick up these five classic Commissar miniatures. Whatever combination of sword, pistol, fist, and book you’re after, they’ve got you covered. Thanks to the classic peaked cap and long coat combo, they’ll still look great alongside your newer Commissars.*** Four of these are cast in metal, with the fifth wielding a sword and bolt pistol in resin.

The masked Inquisitor will be resin as well.

It's like watching the devolution of Commissar sculpts.

Never had classic yarrick back in the day. Now it’s time to fix that.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
Hmm, I would actually like those commissars, particularly the metal ones. Shame some of them are still finecast.

The only things that are resin are Yarrick, Raine, the Lord-Commissar, and Creed.

And the Pistol/Sword Inquisitor.

I wonder why the Steel Legion guy was left out. I liked him back in the day, hasn't stood the test of time though.

I no longer collect Imperial Guard, but I was always sad I missed out on some of those models, wonder how much they're gonna cost.

Came across a great unit profile for an Imperial Guard High Commander and retinue in one of the White Dwarfs added to the vault today (from 2005). The commander themselves is a Ld10 officer with some extra command benefits. They get the normal command squad guardsmen and veteran options (incl. a master vox operator to extend the officer's leadership range) and some neat combat options like grenadier bodyguards and melee combat servitor bodyguards. No heavy weapons teams though. However, the retinue has several cool options for boosting your whole army, like 0-3 staff officers who provide three levels of buffs depending on how many are taken. The maximum size of the unit was 12 incl. the commander, theoretically bumping up to 15 if you added a commissar, priest, and sanctioned psyker using the advisors rule. The unit entry was solely for use within a particular campaign based in the Battle for Cadia during the 13th Black Crusade, for which it allegedly underwent playtesting. Quite a lot of effort for a super niche unit, although a great modelling opportunity.

It made me feel sad for what we have today in the 9th ed codex. Weird lone senior officers roaming the lines and a supreme commander with zero retinue and an ability to only command as far as he can shout.

GW Commissar splash release had me looking around today. Wargames Exclusive has some decent ones https://wargameexclusive.com/?s=commissar&post_type=product

I always liked the Commissar models. Thinking about getting these to do an all Commissar Stargrave Crew