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The gun-smith (not going to put the 'y' in there, no). Is going to lose a hand and get gut-shot. Worst practices gun handling at its finest.
Shame, because its a nice sculpt otherwise.
Considering she's not supposed to be 'wielding' those guns but stood at her stall flogging them I'm assuming they're not loaded...
Is it good practice still? Probably not. It's an underhive trader in Necromunda though. Common sense or good practice aren't exactly what comes to mind there.
Love these models. It's great to have just general minis and gives designers some fun stuff to come up with. The relic bearer is my absolute favourite.
The gun-smith (not going to put the 'y' in there, no). Is going to lose a hand and get gut-shot. Worst practices gun handling at its finest.
Shame, because its a nice sculpt otherwise.
Considering she's not supposed to be 'wielding' those guns but stood at her stall flogging them I'm assuming they're not loaded...
Is it good practice still? Probably not. It's an underhive trader in Necromunda though. Common sense or good practice aren't exactly what comes to mind there.
Yep, underhive trader in necromunda. She's gotta survive handing over her wares to gang scum. Doing it in a way she can be gut shot during the hand-off means she would've died ages ago.
Between the pose and details, they're obviously trying to tell a story with these models. Unfortunately, the gun-smith's story goes all wibbly (and she's also too clean and sporty for the underhive)
The gun-smith (not going to put the 'y' in there, no). Is going to lose a hand and get gut-shot. Worst practices gun handling at its finest.
Shame, because its a nice sculpt otherwise.
Considering she's not supposed to be 'wielding' those guns but stood at her stall flogging them I'm assuming they're not loaded...
Is it good practice still? Probably not. It's an underhive trader in Necromunda though. Common sense or good practice aren't exactly what comes to mind there.
Yep, underhive trader in necromunda. She's gotta survive handing over her wares to gang scum. Doing it in a way she can be gut shot during the hand-off means she would've died ages ago.
Between the pose and details, they're obviously trying to tell a story with these models. Unfortunately, the gun-smith's story goes all wibbly (and she's also too clean and sporty for the underhive)
Sorry I still don't see that posing as problematic for an unloaded weapon (coming from a very much layman's understanding which I suspect the vast majority of hobbyists are when it comes to firearms, never mind the designers), especially when the universe and subject matter are illogical at the best of times anyway. Personally I'm more than happy to suspend my disbelief and hand waive away a bit of silliness for the sake of a fun model.
lol, the pose is meant to convey the fact that the guns are being handled as merchandise. The internet's blowhard understanding of guns is rather different than the reality of gun manufacturers and gun stores.
On top of the complaints registered already, it's also revealing a quintessentially smug American/western POV, where guns are toys and ritual for bored old men. If you look around the world -- or, indeed, in some parts of America -- you'll find no shortage of people "handling guns incorrectly" because their relationship to guns is an unemotional and/or involuntary one founded on necessity/desperation/coercive pressures/etc.
The only way there's something wrong with that sculpt is if your imagination begins and ends with your overweight suburban gunshow buddies and weekend trips to the range.
Seeing as we have a completely separate hanger on in the Bullet Merchant who provides ammo, I think its fairly safe to assume the Gunsmith is simply selling the guns without the gun-food.
The (awesome) film Lord of War probably give you more of an idea of the type of gun selling she is part of and her clients
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On top of the complaints registered already, it's also revealing a quintessentially smug American/western POV, where guns are toys and ritual for bored old men. If you look around the world -- or, indeed, in some parts of America -- you'll find no shortage of people "handling guns incorrectly" because their relationship to guns is an unemotional and/or involuntary one founded on necessity/desperation/coercive pressures/etc.
The only way there's something wrong with that sculpt is if your imagination begins and ends with your overweight suburban gunshow buddies and weekend trips to the range.
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Mr Morden wrote:Loving all those models!
The (awesome) film Lord of War probably give you more of an idea of the type of gun selling she is part of and her clients
Precisely. Anyone thinking the Underhive is like a fatyankgunwank session instead of 3rd world hell hole ramped up to 11 hasn't understood the setting very well...
warl0rdb0b wrote: Seeing as we have a completely separate hanger on in the Bullet Merchant who provides ammo, I think its fairly safe to assume the Gunsmith is simply selling the guns without the gun-food.
Dunno about that, though, I'd assume customers would want to try the weapons, and besides, she has multiple ammo packs on her belt to weapons that are not on mini so I'd say small amounts of ammo are on offer too?
The weapons (why is the heavy bolter vehicle, not handheld variant?), animals, decorative bits. I also can't shake the feeling I saw all relics and other church paraphernalia, especially checkerboard stuff, on Black Templar models already. That is not to say they look bad, but they give me a serious sense of deja vu on pretty much every part of the mini.
The weapons (why is the heavy bolter vehicle, not handheld variant?)
But why not? The rules would potentially allow the gun-smyth to "sell" weapons to vehicles now (or rather, grant free upgrades to master-crafted variants).
What I'd like to know is what happened to "Connected Trader"? The image shows 3 models, but "Underhive Trader" has 4 options.
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Voss wrote: Worst practices gun handling at its finest.
+1
Also, her knee pads.
Looks as if strapped around the legs - but the trousers are extremely loose fitting…
Love them all anyways
I don´t own guns but I have served in the military. Rule number one they teach you about weapons: ALWAYS treat them, if they were loaded. Any other behaviour will get people injured/killed. Sergeants told us a lot of horror stories of cool/unafraid idiots who either shot themselves or their mates. And when you check my flag you will notice I am not an American.
Voss wrote: Worst practices gun handling at its finest.
+1
Also, her knee pads.
Looks as if strapped around the legs - but the trousers are extremely loose fitting…
Love them all anyways
I don´t own guns but I have served in the military. Rule number one they teach you about weapons: ALWAYS treat them, if they were loaded. Any other behaviour will get people injured/killed. Sergeants told us a lot of horror stories of cool/unafraid idiots who either shot themselves or their mates. And when you check my flag you will notice I am not an American.
Your sergeants told you a lot of horror stories of cool/unafraid idiots who either shot themselves or their mates.
Read that again. Witness testimony that even some people who are trained in weapon safety do not obey its recommendations.
The two big industry killers in almost any industry.
When you're inexperienced you do stupid stuff because you don't realise its stupid/dangerous. When you're overconfident (which often,but not always, comes with a lot of experience) you do stupid stuff because you think you can get away with it.
Heck a lot of gun safety revolves around the idea of the gun "always being loaded" in how you treat the gun. There are then loads of stories of "X was sure the gun was unloaded, handled it incorrectly and found out it wasn't".
I think the only reason that model is handling the pistol in that "showing the merch" fashion was to make a distinction that she's not in a combat pose. It's visual shorthand for "she's a merchant".
KidCthulhu wrote: I think the only reason that model is handling the pistol in that "showing the merch" fashion was to make a distinction that she's not in a combat pose. It's visual shorthand for "she's a merchant".
It's visually like a swordsmith holding the blade and offering the hilt to a customer.
KidCthulhu wrote: I think the only reason that model is handling the pistol in that "showing the merch" fashion was to make a distinction that she's not in a combat pose. It's visual shorthand for "she's a merchant".
It's visually like a swordsmith holding the blade and offering the hilt to a customer.
Definitely merit to the charecter that the risk is worth showing confidence to people that would use threats of violence to get even minor advantage.
Or that the clients are not bright at the best of times, so needing to rely on all other methods of safety as half her gun sales involve her guns being pointed at her.
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