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Agamemnon2 wrote: If this means BL would need to stop being cowards and give us the canonical fates of the IInd and XIth legions, I'd be all for it :-P
Huh, I/ve never heard that before now -- that actually would make a lot of sense if you buy into the Ultramarines legion growing suspiciously around the time of one of the lost legions' banishment.
There’s a video floating around YouTube that pretty convincingly pulls together a bunch of stuff to indicate that at least one of the Lost Legions’ main complement of marines were mind wiped and reassigned rather than being annihilated for {whatever happened to their primarch} which may or may not have been “taken over by mind controlling alien parasites” during the Rangdan Xenocides.
If you twist it enough, that sort of fits what Priestly said.
Isn't the "Ultramarines (and IF?) absorbed the lost legions" a rumor by some of the Traitor Legions, but its biased because said legions had grudges against the Ultramarines?
GaroRobe wrote: Isn't the "Ultramarines (and IF?) absorbed the lost legions" a rumor by some of the Traitor Legions, but its biased because said legions had grudges against the Ultramarines?
IIRC it's a couple of Word Bearers gossiping around the time of Calth.
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GaroRobe wrote: Isn't the "Ultramarines (and IF?) absorbed the lost legions" a rumor by some of the Traitor Legions, but its biased because said legions had grudges against the Ultramarines?
IIRC it's a couple of Word Bearers gossiping around the time of Calth.
And actually debunked by ADB on Bolter and Chainsword.
I was more naive back then. From my point of view, knowing it wasn't true - and, more importantly, knowing from the lore that it wasn't and couldn't possibly be true because we knew how the Ultramarines were that size already - coupled with the fact that it's a Word Bearer making a joke that even the protagonist of the novel basically ignores, it didn't occur to me that people would consider it "information".
GaroRobe wrote: Isn't the "Ultramarines (and IF?) absorbed the lost legions" a rumor by some of the Traitor Legions, but its biased because said legions had grudges against the Ultramarines?
IIRC it's a couple of Word Bearers gossiping around the time of Calth.
And actually debunked by ADB on Bolter and Chainsword.
I was more naive back then. From my point of view, knowing it wasn't true - and, more importantly, knowing from the lore that it wasn't and couldn't possibly be true because we knew how the Ultramarines were that size already - coupled with the fact that it's a Word Bearer making a joke that even the protagonist of the novel basically ignores, it didn't occur to me that people would consider it "information".
Translation: I didn't realize the fans could be so stupid they'd take an off the cuff comment from a guy who hates the ultramarines as gosipel fact when we hav mountains of data that flat out explains the truth otherwise
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GaroRobe wrote: Isn't the "Ultramarines (and IF?) absorbed the lost legions" a rumor by some of the Traitor Legions, but its biased because said legions had grudges against the Ultramarines?
IIRC it's a couple of Word Bearers gossiping around the time of Calth.
And actually debunked by ADB on Bolter and Chainsword.
I was more naive back then. From my point of view, knowing it wasn't true - and, more importantly, knowing from the lore that it wasn't and couldn't possibly be true because we knew how the Ultramarines were that size already - coupled with the fact that it's a Word Bearer making a joke that even the protagonist of the novel basically ignores, it didn't occur to me that people would consider it "information".
Translation: I didn't realize the fans could be so stupid they'd take an off the cuff comment from a guy who hates the ultramarines as gosipel fact when we hav mountains of data that flat out explains the truth otherwise
Except it has been expanded upon as a possibility soooooo
Gert wrote: The PDFs are the army rules for Cults/Militia and Ruinstorm Daemons, as well as updated profiles for units found in the Exemplary Battles series, and new entries for said series.
Also rules for OOP models that aren't in the books, IIRC.
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GaroRobe wrote: Isn't the "Ultramarines (and IF?) absorbed the lost legions" a rumor by some of the Traitor Legions, but its biased because said legions had grudges against the Ultramarines?
IIRC it's a couple of Word Bearers gossiping around the time of Calth.
And actually debunked by ADB on Bolter and Chainsword.
I was more naive back then. From my point of view, knowing it wasn't true - and, more importantly, knowing from the lore that it wasn't and couldn't possibly be true because we knew how the Ultramarines were that size already - coupled with the fact that it's a Word Bearer making a joke that even the protagonist of the novel basically ignores, it didn't occur to me that people would consider it "information".
Translation: I didn't realize the fans could be so stupid they'd take an off the cuff comment from a guy who hates the ultramarines as gosipel fact when we hav mountains of data that flat out explains the truth otherwise
Considering BL then went on to make it outright canon by having Malcador state in plain language the redacted legions were given to new fathers in the chamber at the end of memory, maybe those fans weren't so stupid after all.
I have to say, I am heartily amused by this undercurrent of "Heresy is going to fail, here's the PRUFF!" I'm seeing on Youtube, certain discords, and various other sources. In particular, the 30+ minute, rambling video by someone calling themselves "War Hammer Man" on YT is being passed around like holy gospel, because I think in the end, a lot of people want it to be proven right (I'm not linking to the video because feth you that's why, if you care to find it, you can).
Don't get me wrong, I'd love for this to be the herald of the end for GW, nothing would please me more than seeing the entire "hobby" be thrown into chaos and upheaval with the old warhorse suddenly hitting a pothole and snapping a femur, but I just don't buy it. We've seen confident assertions of doom before, and nothing ever came of it.
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Its not going to overtake 40k or AoS but the sheer amount of "HHDOA" or "HH will be dead within a month" stuff I've been seeing is just irritating more than anything else. If they genuinely don't think it's going anywhere can they naff off and leave the rest of us to be happy?
I've only seen 2 videos like that and one of them seems to be a woman's channel specifically for raggin on GW like some sort of bizarro-Earth version of anti-progressive "movie review" channels. But I tend to stick around positive creators like GMG (this might surprise many people here )
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Apologies if this has been covered already, but does anyone know if GW have confirmed whether the FW Deimos doors are fully compatible with the new plastic rhino?
From just eyeballing the sprue shots, it looks like it should be fine, but knowing my luck if I order some, it will turn out they are slightly smaller diameter or something…
Gert wrote: Its not going to overtake 40k or AoS but the sheer amount of "HHDOA" or "HH will be dead within a month" stuff I've been seeing is just irritating more than anything else. If they genuinely don't think it's going anywhere can they naff off and leave the rest of us to be happy?
No No, you shall be miserable too! honestly I'm MORE excited by HH. then 7th edition ruleset sans psyker phase and formations is, frankly, a superior game to modern warhammer 40k. (IMHO modern 40k suffers from being so uncomplex in it's core rules that they need keep piling rules upon rules ontop) and I suspect a lot of people are.
I wonder if the loudest "it will fail" voices are just xenos players who don't want to play a marine on marine gameset
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
One of my locals sold out fully of its 160 box allocation, including all deimos, kratos, books, upgrade sets, etc. Based on that sales performance, I don't see "failure" happening.
On that note, I am now in possession of 2 of my 3 copies of the big box, both books, one of each upgrade set, 1 of 2 kratoses, and a deimos rhino.
Also, like Brian I am *hyped* for what I will call "late modern oldhammer" based on the 7th ed ruleset. I'm not quitting 9th, etc but Im a bit burned out by the bloat and excessive rules layering, etc. I just wish that HH had followed 8ths lead and dumped the templates.
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Gert wrote: Its not going to overtake 40k or AoS but the sheer amount of "HHDOA" or "HH will be dead within a month" stuff I've been seeing is just irritating more than anything else. If they genuinely don't think it's going anywhere can they naff off and leave the rest of us to be happy?
I've been seeing the opposite. A lot of the same people (especially influencers) claiming for years if 30k didn't align with 40k's current rules it was going to die, now acting like they always loved 30k for it's entirety and that they always wanted a 7.5 ruleset.
I doubt it will overtake 40k but considering the position it 2 was in before and seeing all the buzz around it now I imagine this will still be an influx of new players to the overall.
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Agamemnon2 wrote:I have to say, I am heartily amused by this undercurrent of "Heresy is going to fail, here's the PRUFF!" I'm seeing on Youtube, certain discords, and various other sources. In particular, the 30+ minute, rambling video by someone calling themselves "War Hammer Man" on YT is being passed around like holy gospel, because I think in the end, a lot of people want it to be proven right (I'm not linking to the video because feth you that's why, if you care to find it, you can).
Gert wrote:Its not going to overtake 40k or AoS but the sheer amount of "HHDOA" or "HH will be dead within a month" stuff I've been seeing is just irritating more than anything else.
These are the channels with random arrows pointing to circled things and big text with huge exclamations and clickbait titles and often with a surprised face
Which means they get zero clicks/views from me. I hate that gak
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