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 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Prometheum5 wrote:
I love the look of the Explorator but I do not understand its function in the game. What are people going to use it for?

Uh, as a LR Explorator? Using the profile/unit entry for it?
Am I missing something?

I think the question being asked is why use the Land Raider option that doesn't let you assault out of it? Do it's other abilities make up for the lack of an assault ramp?

The Reserve / Deep Strike shenanigans are situational, but it also has Scout which is nasty on a Land Raider.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Does the Explorator not also Scout?

Yes

That was my meaning, sorry for not being clearer. I don't quite understand the tabletop role of the Explorator over what the transporter model gets you. I love the look of the Explorator but use-wise it seems to give up a lot.

Durable demi-Master of Signals with lascannons that doesn't take up an HQ slot?

BigOscar wrote:
Always been a bit surprised by the lack of protection GW give the tracks of tanks, considering it's the most vulnerable and easily crippled part of the vehicle. It's particularly obvious on the Proteus as it's so skinny, the thing is about 50% exposed tracks.

If that thing drove over a firecracker, it would lose an entire track.

Looks good in purp!

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
People really need to get a grip on their scale quibbles. Do you really expect them to rescale everything when new stuff comes out? Scale differences are part of the hobby. Bulk up your bases if it's an issue. Personally I like the slight differences in scale, especially if it's characters and praetors that are larger.

Agree to disagree then. No matter how hard I try, I just cannot unsee the lanky proportions of other firstborn models anymore. It was still palatable when only Primaris models had better proportions (perhaps due to size difference), but now that we have the new MKVI, there is no way I'll ever be buying the old proportioned models again, unless it's just for getting certain bits to use with newer torsos.

Same happened to me with IG, ever since I got my hands on the new DKoK models, I've sold all my vintage Cadians and Catachans. The proportions just look too outrageous whenever the old models are next to the new ones, to the point where the old sculpts start looking like abhumans.

You are of course free to do as you please with your models, but you cannot project your preferences and expectations to other people. It shouldn't affect you or anyone else in the slightest if I or anyone else wants to rebuy their models whenever their look improves significantly. Perhaps you should get over the fact that this seems to rub you the wrong way?

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
It has that happy meal toy adorability, but I kinda wish they didn't stick so close to bad 80s sculpts with these things.

I think the og Land Raider looks HIDEOUS, but in the best way possible. The definition of "Pretty Ugly". You know what's the best way to get rid of the "Happy Meal Toy" feel? Heavy weathering and chipping. When painted in the Eavy Metal style, indeed looks derpy. But give the same model to Phil Stutcinskas or Lincoln Wright, and the result will look properly grimdark, guaranteed.

Btw, does the newer Armoured Proteus Land Raider look better in your opinion? I think that's a great design, which takes the og and builds upon it. I've got one of those in resin. I hope they plasticize that one as well.

I also like the Land Raider Achilles. That's the most futuristic looking Land Raider of the bunch IMO.

 tauist wrote:


You are of course free to do as you please with your models, but you cannot project your preferences and expectations to other people. It shouldn't affect you or anyone else in the slightest if I or anyone else wants to rebuy their models whenever their look improves significantly. Perhaps you should get over the fact that this seems to rub you the wrong way?

I can. It's an opinion, projected into the world in the exact same fashion as those who are complaining about the small scale differences in wargame figs, in contradiction to those said opinions. It's how people discuss things upon which they have different viewpoints.

 tauist wrote:


Agree to disagree then. No matter how hard I try, I just cannot unsee the lanky proportions of other firstborn models anymore. It was still palatable when only Primaris models had better proportions (perhaps due to size difference), but now that we have the new MKVI, there is no way I'll ever be buying the old proportioned models again, unless it's just for getting certain bits to use with newer torsos.

Same happened to me with IG, ever since I got my hands on the new DKoK models, I've sold all my vintage Cadians and Catachans. The proportions just look too outrageous whenever the old models are next to the new ones, to the point where the old sculpts start looking like abhumans.

This. The new Mk VI with their vastly improved proportions just look great. I just want all the classic marines brought up to this standard, I'd happily buy them all!


....So we have had a lot a vehicles previewed or released for the HH so far. Where the hell are my infantry?!

Right, where the hell are the assault troops & breachers...to ya know, fill those transports with????

 Soundtheory wrote:

 tauist wrote:


Agree to disagree then. No matter how hard I try, I just cannot unsee the lanky proportions of other firstborn models anymore. It was still palatable when only Primaris models had better proportions (perhaps due to size difference), but now that we have the new MKVI, there is no way I'll ever be buying the old proportioned models again, unless it's just for getting certain bits to use with newer torsos.

Same happened to me with IG, ever since I got my hands on the new DKoK models, I've sold all my vintage Cadians and Catachans. The proportions just look too outrageous whenever the old models are next to the new ones, to the point where the old sculpts start looking like abhumans.

This. The new Mk VI with their vastly improved proportions just look great. I just want all the classic marines brought up to this standard, I'd happily buy them all!


....So we have had a lot a vehicles previewed or released for the HH so far. Where the hell are my infantry?!

my gut says infantry will be in the form of upgrade packs, once the various special and heavy weapons packs are released GW will release a melee upgrade pack for Mk VIs

I'd say melee would require new poses.

And while classically, assault marines with jump packs came in mk vi (even the original Epic models for the early HH versions of the game), it'd be a good fit for doing mk5 in plastic.

Though I like the idea of Destroyer squads in mk5, just for the the sense of desperation in bringing those weapons out and stretching armor supplies. But there's a fair amount of overlap with the pistols and chainswords.

Destroyers are currently in MK IV armor. A new box of MK IV jump troops with melee and destroyer options would be amazing, and let GW upscale that armor. Same could be done for MK III breachers/ despoilers.

I just want mkiii/iv available in the US

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Destroyers are currently in MK IV armor. A new box of MK IV jump troops with melee and destroyer options would be amazing, and let GW upscale that armor. Same could be done for MK III breachers/ despoilers.

MK IV seems unlikely simply because there are plastic MK IV right now that they just repackaged, I think if we get new kits in differant armor marks it'll be mk v and ii

Please no more Mk.IV. We get enough that every day with Primaris helmets.

I have long since accepted that we're never going to get a proper full Mk.VIII kit, but Mk.II and Mk.V can't be out of the question? Or even just Mk.II?

Gw has half of the MK II kit in digital format thanks to vehicle crew. Maybe plasticize the rapier gun carrier and add legs to make MK II crew for it next?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Gw has half of the MK II kit in digital format thanks to vehicle crew. Maybe plasticize the rapier gun carrier and add legs to make MK II crew for it next?

Argel Tal has the legs of a MkII marine under his foot (and the rest in his hand) so depending how that was sculpted they might have the legs in digital already too.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Gw has half of the MK II kit in digital format thanks to vehicle crew. Maybe plasticize the rapier gun carrier and add legs to make MK II crew for it next?

Argel Tal has the legs of a MkII marine under his foot (and the rest in his hand) so depending how that was sculpted they might have the legs in digital already too.

A lot of the newer FW stuff is digital, but digital for resin casting, not plastic.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Gw has half of the MK II kit in digital format thanks to vehicle crew. Maybe plasticize the rapier gun carrier and add legs to make MK II crew for it next?

Argel Tal has the legs of a MkII marine under his foot (and the rest in his hand) so depending how that was sculpted they might have the legs in digital already too.

A lot of the newer FW stuff is digital, but digital for resin casting, not plastic.

How hard is it to tranfer from one material to another, IIRC the warlord titan was literally a plastic downscaled copy of the resin 28mm warlord

BrianDavion wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Gw has half of the MK II kit in digital format thanks to vehicle crew. Maybe plasticize the rapier gun carrier and add legs to make MK II crew for it next?

Argel Tal has the legs of a MkII marine under his foot (and the rest in his hand) so depending how that was sculpted they might have the legs in digital already too.

A lot of the newer FW stuff is digital, but digital for resin casting, not plastic.

How hard is it to tranfer from one material to another, IIRC the warlord titan was literally a plastic downscaled copy of the resin 28mm warlord

It wasn't. And resin kits are sculpted to allow for undercuts and larger components while plastic has to be broken up differently to fit on a sprue and have injection points.

I suspect they started off using the existing design, but as MWJ said there’s a good bit more too it than just sticking it through the Debigulator.

Talked about here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/08/8th-aug-adeptus-titanicus-war-on-a-new-scalegw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-1/

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I suspect they started off using the existing design, but as MWJ said there’s a good bit more too it than just sticking it through the Debigulator.

Now I want a Debigulator. Just to experiment with.

There is no 'debigulator'; that was made up by some joker on the voxnet.

An 'Un-debigulator' with an 'inversion button' is clearly what you need

Debigulator and Resizograph remain canon.

Price for the Land Raider show up anywhere yet?

 Just Tony wrote:
Price for the Land Raider show up anywhere yet?

The one literally just previewed yesterday?

No. They won't show up until it's going to be the week of preorders.

Didn't notice anything about release date, sorry

BrianDavion wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Gw has half of the MK II kit in digital format thanks to vehicle crew. Maybe plasticize the rapier gun carrier and add legs to make MK II crew for it next?

Argel Tal has the legs of a MkII marine under his foot (and the rest in his hand) so depending how that was sculpted they might have the legs in digital already too.

A lot of the newer FW stuff is digital, but digital for resin casting, not plastic.

How hard is it to tranfer from one material to another, IIRC the warlord titan was literally a plastic downscaled copy of the resin 28mm warlord

That involved workload of about same as had they started from scratch. But that was due to size and not material. Likely faster to turn 28mm resin to 28mm plastic(well 32)

Racerguy180 wrote:
Right, where the hell are the assault troops & breachers...to ya know, fill those transports with????

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legion-MKIII-Breacher-Siege-Squad-2018
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKIV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad-FW-2020

They're right here.