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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:03:30
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2022/08/18 13:05:49
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:10:07
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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NM
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2022/08/18 13:10:18
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:14:07
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Thrall Wizard of Tzeentch
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:14:14
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Posts with Authority
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And there we have it. One explorator for me please!
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:18:21
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Is it weird that I'm sad we didn't get to see an upgrade kit this seek?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:22:41
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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Alternatively they could have just not randomly make one kit 15% taller.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:23:04
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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That is a damn fine looking tank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:28:25
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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It has that happy meal toy adorability, but I kinda wish they didn't stick so close to bad 80s sculpts with these things.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:30:56
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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GW is making it harder and harder to resist.
I fear the Deimos Predator may put me over the edge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:31:00
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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So that leaves a bunch of Legion Upgrade Packs to be announced (Night Lords, Blood Angels, Iron Hands, Ultramarines, Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Word Bearers, Salamanders, Raven Guard, Alpha Legion); plus the Predator, 2 Heavy Weapon Packs (plasma cannons/heavy flamers/multi-meltas & volkite culverins/lascannons/autocannons) and the announced FW models to be released. Have I missed anything?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:33:32
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Legendary Dogfighter
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it's glorious. Will fit straight in with my 2nd ed army as well so will need multiples.
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it's the quiet ones you have to look out for. Their the ones that change the world, the loud ones just take the credit for it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:33:50
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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I love the look of the Explorator but I do not understand its function in the game. What are people going to use it for?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:35:43
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Dakka Veteran
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lord_blackfang wrote:It has that happy meal toy adorability, but I kinda wish they didn't stick so close to bad 80s sculpts with these things.
As opposed to the much beloved Space Marine tanks of recent years
Personally I think it's great, the vehicles have been the real highlight of the Heresy releases so far for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:37:57
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Perfection. I'll have a dozen.
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:43:39
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Prometheum5 wrote:I love the look of the Explorator but I do not understand its function in the game. What are people going to use it for?
I'd guess most people would just run it as the 'normal' one - it's what I'm doing with my FW Armoured Proteus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:51:27
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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queen_annes_revenge wrote:People really need to get a grip on their scale quibbles. Do you really expect them to rescale everything when new stuff comes out? Scale differences are part of the hobby. Bulk up your bases if it's an issue. Personally I like the slight differences in scale, especially if it's characters and praetors that are larger.
It’s not only about scale, it’s also about the quality of the sculpts. I’d also be fine with characters being larger than troops, buts that’s not the case. If you’re using the new MkVI marines as your troops, it’s more like your basic troops making your elites look like malformed children. Saying scale differences are part of the hobby is basically saying we should accept low standards.
Now I’m not saying that FW should just throw everything away and start again. What I am saying is that a steady refresh, starting with the older releases, would make the range better. It’s no different from main GW refreshing older ranges with better sculpts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 13:58:33
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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I'm probably the odd one out here, but the Proteus doesn't do anything for me. My first exposure to Land Raiders were the mid 90's Epic Land Raiders that eventually were the pattern for the 40k Land Raider. The 80's Land Raiders always looked too weirdly proportioned, and so for me they've stuck too close to that old design for my likings.
The Spartan stretches things out enough that I quite like it, but the Proteus, yeah, not doing anything for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 14:03:47
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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I know with the Proteus they want to appeal to older Fans and therefor keep it close to the original, but... Those tracks could really need a profile instead of being flat, would it have really bothered people if they had made that adjustment?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 14:03:53
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Glad to see the proteus officially announced. Next week or two will probably be more upgrade kits, then hopefully some currently unknown plastic kits for HH.
Hopefully FW will make side parts to convert it to an Armored Proteus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 14:10:31
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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The Proteus is an adorable dumpling of a tank. 😍
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 14:16:28
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:Why couldn't they upscale Terminators too, so they'd be in-line with regular Marines?
The Terminators are already upscaled. They're taller than the Mk3 and Mk4 Marines and in line with DW, TS, CSM, Mk6 when they got released.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 14:33:13
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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That's not a new tank.
I've had one of those since the 90's!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 14:39:01
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:I'm probably the odd one out here, but the Proteus doesn't do anything for me. My first exposure to Land Raiders were the mid 90's Epic Land Raiders that eventually were the pattern for the 40k Land Raider. The 80's Land Raiders always looked too weirdly proportioned, and so for me they've stuck too close to that old design for my likings.
The Spartan stretches things out enough that I quite like it, but the Proteus, yeah, not doing anything for me.
I’m in the same boat mate. I remember the original Land Raider coming out and I remember not liking it back then. Like you say, the proportions are all wrong. It always looked to me like it would start rolling end over end if it tried to go down too steep a hill. The Spartan fixes everything wrong with the Proteus and looks so much better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 14:41:11
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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Prometheum5 wrote:I love the look of the Explorator but I do not understand its function in the game. What are people going to use it for?
What do you mean? It has its own unit entry, it gives a bonus to reserve rolls and a penalty to enemy reserve rolls.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 14:42:02
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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RazorEdge wrote: Wha-Mu-077 wrote:Why couldn't they upscale Terminators too, so they'd be in-line with regular Marines?
The Terminators are already upscaled. They're taller than the Mk3 and Mk4 Marines and in line with DW, TS, CSM, Mk6 when they got released.
Personally, I'd disagree - the plastic terminators are visibly smaller than Mk6, and bordering on comically tiny compared to characters. I'd really like them to feel a bit more big and imposing than they do at the moment.
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 15:26:41
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Prometheum5 wrote:I love the look of the Explorator but I do not understand its function in the game. What are people going to use it for?
Uh, as a LR Explorator? Using the profile/unit entry for it?
Am I missing something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 15:49:01
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Yeah I'm not big on the Proteus either. Now the MkIIb Land Raider? Thats a sexy armored fighting vehicle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 16:20:22
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Always been a bit surprised by the lack of protection GW give the tracks of tanks, considering it's the most vulnerable and easily crippled part of the vehicle. It's particularly obvious on the Proteus as it's so skinny, the thing is about 50% exposed tracks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 16:32:24
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Mr_Rose wrote: Prometheum5 wrote:I love the look of the Explorator but I do not understand its function in the game. What are people going to use it for?
Uh, as a LR Explorator? Using the profile/unit entry for it?
Am I missing something?
I think the question being asked is why use the Land Raider option that doesn't let you assault out of it? Do it's other abilities make up for the lack of an assault ramp?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/18 16:34:01
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Does the Explorator not also Scout?
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