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That’s pretty rad! Maybe the Helical Targetting Array?

Quite possibly yes. The additional 3 chest plates and weapons are a welcome addition as well as the scrollwork and shields. Now to workout what loadouts I want on the 3 that arrived this morning...I would really like dual Kheres but am not that find of drilling out all those barrels.

 Togusa wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
Right, where the hell are the assault troops & breachers...to ya know, fill those transports with????

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legion-MKIII-Breacher-Siege-Squad-2018
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKIV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad-FW-2020

They're right here.

Ah finally one intelligent answer. I may add that the heavy weapons are there too. I don't understand, it's like people treat The Horus Heresy as a new game and forget it has been running for like 10 years and that people have been collecting whole armies !
But no, they prefer to sell there tiny AoD forces because "muuuh not enough plastic" ...
New hat syndrome

 godardc wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
Right, where the hell are the assault troops & breachers...to ya know, fill those transports with????

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legion-MKIII-Breacher-Siege-Squad-2018
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKIV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad-FW-2020

They're right here.

Ah finally one intelligent answer. I may add that the heavy weapons are there too. I don't understand, it's like people treat The Horus Heresy as a new game and forget it has been running for like 10 years and that people have been collecting whole armies !
But no, they prefer to sell there tiny AoD forces because "muuuh not enough plastic" ...
New hat syndrome

Probably they don't want the comically squat old resin Marines, because they're going to look really weird next to the new ones, that are a good head taller.

It's almost as if the big influx of Hh players has somehting to do with mainstream support from gw with updated plastic and not having to deal with forgeworld hard to get resin kits and rulebooks /s

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 godardc wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
Right, where the hell are the assault troops & breachers...to ya know, fill those transports with????

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legion-MKIII-Breacher-Siege-Squad-2018
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKIV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad-FW-2020

They're right here.

Ah finally one intelligent answer. I may add that the heavy weapons are there too. I don't understand, it's like people treat The Horus Heresy as a new game and forget it has been running for like 10 years and that people have been collecting whole armies !
But no, they prefer to sell there tiny AoD forces because "muuuh not enough plastic" ...
New hat syndrome

Probably they don't want the comically squat old resin Marines, because they're going to look really weird next to the new ones, that are a good head taller.

And it's kinda hard to justify paying roughly the same price for 5 Assault Marines as what you would pay for 20 Mark VI TACs.

I'm going to see if I can convert one of the MkVI marine to MkIV using green stuff and a Primaris helmet, since that's the closest I have to a MkIV right now. If it looks turns out ok, I may convert some or all of them.

 godardc wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
Right, where the hell are the assault troops & breachers...to ya know, fill those transports with????

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legion-MKIII-Breacher-Siege-Squad-2018
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKIV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad-FW-2020

They're right here.

Ah finally one intelligent answer. I may add that the heavy weapons are there too. I don't understand, it's like people treat The Horus Heresy as a new game and forget it has been running for like 10 years and that people have been collecting whole armies !
But no, they prefer to sell there tiny AoD forces because "muuuh not enough plastic" ...
New hat syndrome

Umm, yeah, it's not really "new hat" syndrome so much as it's "don't want to pay $136 for a 10 man breacher squad" syndrome. But sure, lets pretend that the reason people didn't collect HH for the past 10 years was something other than the insane price and the pain of having to deal with FW and FW resin.

I have no problems with resin and own a bunch, I'd just prefer to use plastic.

When does the Mechanicus rulebook release? Or at least preorder?

Got mine in today, did a quick leaf through and happy that the Imperial Knight ranks are back in some form.

 godardc wrote:
Ah finally one intelligent answer. I may add that the heavy weapons are there too. I don't understand, it's like people treat The Horus Heresy as a new game and forget it has been running for like 10 years and that people have been collecting whole armies !
But no, they prefer to sell there tiny AoD forces because "muuuh not enough plastic" ...
New hat syndrome

...are you really that out of touch?

Most of us would prefer not to pay a ludicrous price-per-model for misshapen monkey-men/dwarfs with laughably bad proportions who look nothing like the artwork. The frequent careless casting errors and giants resin gates certainly don't sweeten the deal.

God forbid that we might want a reasonably-priced alternative that actually *looks like a space marine*.

Christ almighty...

Was there a release date mentioned back when the World Eaters upgrade pack was previewed?

 JNAProductions wrote:
When does the Mechanicus rulebook release? Or at least preorder?

Preorder was last Saturday, release was today (well yesterday now, technically).

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
When does the Mechanicus rulebook release? Or at least preorder?

Preorder was last Saturday, release was today (well yesterday now, technically).

Not for North America.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
When does the Mechanicus rulebook release? Or at least preorder?

Preorder was last Saturday, release was today (well yesterday now, technically).

Not for North America.

My FLGS store told me today the book got delayed but didnt have a new date. Have they announced when it will be released in the US?

Nope.

* These products have been slightly delayed in North America, but they will be released as soon as possible.

Last time this happened, they did no fanfare or anything. It just went up.

It's bloody annoying.

Duymon wrote:
It's almost as if the big influx of Hh players has somehting to do with mainstream support from gw with updated plastic and not having to deal with forgeworld hard to get resin kits and rulebooks /s

Assuming the flag by your name is correct, you're in the USA, so riddle me this - how, exactly, is placing an online order from FW trickier (or more of a roadblock) than placing one from any other online seller?

 Dysartes wrote:

Duymon wrote:
It's almost as if the big influx of Hh players has somehting to do with mainstream support from gw with updated plastic and not having to deal with forgeworld hard to get resin kits and rulebooks /s

Assuming the flag by your name is correct, you're in the USA, so riddle me this - how, exactly, is placing an online order from FW trickier (or more of a roadblock) than placing one from any other online seller?

FW comes with a bigger price tag.

Some people don't buy from "any other online seller", they buy from their FLGS or a specific online seller that they trust/like.

FW stuff often comes with flaws that warrant the part being replaced.

Lots of people prefer plastic to resin.

Even in the US I've heard reports of FW occasionally taking a long time deliver (there was a thread on it recently and I recall several Muricans complaining their orders were taking weeks to months to be shipped).

Some people don't like the proportions of the old Space Marine models and want something that will match the aesthetic of the Age of Darkness box they just bought.



Is that enough reasons? How many reasons do we need before people stop saying "Stop wanting things to be better! Just buy from FW, that's what true HH fans have been doing for years!"

 godardc wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
Right, where the hell are the assault troops & breachers...to ya know, fill those transports with????

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legion-MKIII-Breacher-Siege-Squad-2018
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKIV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad-FW-2020

They're right here.

Ah finally one intelligent answer. I may add that the heavy weapons are there too. I don't understand, it's like people treat The Horus Heresy as a new game and forget it has been running for like 10 years and that people have been collecting whole armies !
But no, they prefer to sell there tiny AoD forces because "muuuh not enough plastic" ...
New hat syndrome

If you're done patting yourself on the back for being snide, you'll admit you left out nobody wants to spends over $13 per marine. Not when they don't have to.

And you'll also admit that that the 10 year old game has all kinds of holes in it that were never filled. Want a Chaplin on a bike? Dawnbreakers with swords? GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

 Moopy wrote:

 godardc wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
Right, where the hell are the assault troops & breachers...to ya know, fill those transports with????

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legion-MKIII-Breacher-Siege-Squad-2018
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/MKIV-Space-Marine-Assault-Squad-FW-2020

They're right here.

Ah finally one intelligent answer. I may add that the heavy weapons are there too. I don't understand, it's like people treat The Horus Heresy as a new game and forget it has been running for like 10 years and that people have been collecting whole armies !
But no, they prefer to sell there tiny AoD forces because "muuuh not enough plastic" ...
New hat syndrome

If you're done patting yourself on the back for being snide, you'll admit you left out nobody wants to spends over $13 per marine. Not when they don't have to.

And you'll also admit that that the 10 year old game has all kinds of holes in it that were never filled. Want a Chaplin on a bike? Dawnbreakers with swords? GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

guys, complaining about this type of thing is how we get 40ks rediculas "no model no rules"

BrianDavion wrote:
guys, complaining about this type of thing is how we get 40ks rediculas "no model no rules"

Not really. Other companies filling the gaps in GW's lists better and faster than GW did is how we got to "no model no rules".

 Alpharius wrote:
Was there a release date mentioned back when the World Eaters upgrade pack was previewed?

Not to my knowledge. It also seems like resin characters and upgrades are shown off a good bit in advance and we should expect them to be released after months rather than weeks.

Can the new plastic Contemptor dreadnought be used in 40k?

BrianDavion wrote:
guys, complaining about this type of thing is how we get 40ks rediculas "no model no rules"

Asking for models is why we get the "no model no rules BS? I seriously doubt that.

And nobody is asking for models that don’t currently exist. We’re posting hoped for Order for Release for stuff crossing the Rubicon Plasticaris.

We can reasonably infer most non-Legion specific unit types will be coming to plastic, and different folk have different wishes for prioritisation thereof.

 dan2026 wrote:
Can the new plastic Contemptor dreadnought be used in 40k?

If there are rules in the codex for it, then yes you can!
Some weapon options may or may not be available though. Im not up to speed on 40k rules.

 Snrub wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
Can the new plastic Contemptor dreadnought be used in 40k?

If there are rules in the codex for it, then yes you can!
Some weapon options may or may not be available though. Im not up to speed on 40k rules.

The old plastic one (Multi-melta/Assault cannon only) is in the codex. The other weapon options are in the FW Imperial Armour Compendium book.

 dan2026 wrote:
Can the new plastic Contemptor dreadnought be used in 40k?

There is a Contemptor datasheet in the SM dex. But it only covers the options for the older model that was released with the Betrayal at Calth game. So a single multi melta or assault cannon alongside a single fist and combi bolter are the only weapons. All the other gear is covered in the Imperial armour compendium from Forge world.

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
Can the new plastic Contemptor dreadnought be used in 40k?

There is a Contemptor datasheet in the SM dex. But it only covers the options for the older model that was released with the Betrayal at Calth game. So a single multi melta or assault cannon alongside a single fist and combi bolter are the only weapons. All the other gear is covered in the Imperial armour compendium from Forge world.

Im still a bit confused. The only Contemptor I can see in IA is the Relic Contemptor. But that seems to have different weapons. There aren't profiles for Gravis autocannons, Gravis bolt cannons, Gravis lascannons, Gravis melta cannons, Gravis plasma cannons etc.