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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, I worry that if they do more ascended Primarchs they'll start with the main 4.

I'd rather they stick to Logar, Peturabo and... umm... would anyone else have ascended beyond those two? Conrad died. I doubt Alpharius would have. So really just those two.

I'd be surprised if they go for the God-aligned Primarchs. Of the three we have in plastic (well almost three), only Magnus isn't in that form by the Siege. It's a bit weird with Magnus though since unlike the rest of the Traitor Primarchs, there's never really a set time for when he becomes a true Daemon Primarch. He does kind of explode a bit on Terra but he seems to just be regular old Magnus when he meets with Horus and his brothers.
Angron gets forcefully ascended on Nuceria during the Shadow Crusade, Mortarion goes Daemon en route to Terra and Fulgrim is first when he kicks about in the Eye with Perturabo.
That being said it all depends on what exactly the article means when it says the "height" of the Heresy. After all, Horus becomes empowered by the Pantheon during 09.M31 and the Siege begins at 14.M31. Both Fulgrim and Angron become Daemons before Horus gets to Molech, however and with the upcoming plastic Angron I doubt we'll see a new resin version of him.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I stayed up until 3 AM just to find out there won't be any more HH plastics for months.

Was there any mention of when the Mechanicum book will be available in the US?

Nope, but those things never really get mentioned on preview streams nor Warhammer Community.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I stayed up until 3 AM just to find out there won't be any more HH plastics for months.

Was there any mention of when the Mechanicum book will be available in the US?

Not yet, nor would they - its not the kind of thing they discuss, and in the past when product to the US has been delayed they have a tendency not to follow up on it with any sort of announcement or anything, it just shows up at retail without fanfare.

 warboss wrote:

Spoiler:

I love the model but I can't help but giggle a bit that they have to primarisize the original primarch.

Have they? I'm not going to necessarily argue that it's a worthwhile use of resources but an 'ascended' version of Horus is a fairly established concept and I'm not even convinced this new one is that much bigger physically than the non-juiced up version.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

 warboss wrote:

Spoiler:

I love the model but I can't help but giggle a bit that they have to primarisize the original primarch.

Have they? I'm not going to necessarily argue that it's a worthwhile use of resources but an 'ascended' version of Horus is a fairly established concept and I'm not even convinced this new one is that much bigger physically than the non-juiced up version.

If the picture is to be believed, it's a bit of an upsize.

Aren't a lot of the Primarch models a bit undersized currently? Does Horus fall into that category?

I'm a bit torn, on the one hand I'd rather they work on new stuff instead of revising existing models that are only used infrequently, on the other hand, some of the current Primarchs are a bit underwhelming and I'd like to see them take another stab at them.

Heresy Thursday – Assassinate Enemy Infiltrators With Their Own Weapons

Clade Vanus Infocyte Assassin:

Yeah a lot of Primarchs are somewhat undersized

Lorgar, for one, iirc, was basically the size of the new super-sized Praetors

Something unexpected...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/09/01/heresy-thursday-assassinate-enemy-infiltrators-with-their-own-weapons/

It also sounds like there may be other kinds of new assassins coming.

The Vanus Assassin, I have to say, is one I never thought would see the tabletops.

They always struck me as an information warrior, the type of Assassin who ruins the reputations of their targets and gets their people to turn against them. Like if there was a 41st Millennium version of Twitter, and cancellation literally meant death.

Twin pistols and mechadendrites is not the image that came to mind.

I like the Vanus model, and hopefully opens up some interesting tactics.

A tabard is a bit of a weird choice for an Assassin in 40k TBH, but otherwise that's quite fun.

Wow, that's an amazing model! I could definitely use her in Inq28 or something similar.

Damn you, FW. Just when I find enough excuses to avoid the hassle/cost of your products, you drop this on us!

Cypher226 wrote:
I like the Vanus model, and hopefully opens up some interesting tactics.

The description sounds like it will be variations of the trope "Stop Hitting Yourself". I am guessing from calling down the enemy bombardment on their own forces, getting automata to register their own forces as hostile and firing on them, etc...

However if they are even on the battlefield at all, then surely something must already have gone wrong.

Iracundus wrote:

Cypher226 wrote:
I like the Vanus model, and hopefully opens up some interesting tactics.

The description sounds like it will be variations of the trope "Stop Hitting Yourself". I am guessing from calling down the enemy bombardment on their own forces, getting automata to register their own forces as hostile and firing on them, etc...

However if they are even on the battlefield at all, then surely something must already have gone wrong.

Ooh! A Titan! Let see how we can alter your firing solutions...

OK, yeah that’s completely unexpected. Neat though. Wonder if she’ll get 40K rules? Be funny if she can h4XX0r Necrons…

 xttz wrote:
Something unexpected...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/09/01/heresy-thursday-assassinate-enemy-infiltrators-with-their-own-weapons/

It also sounds like there may be other kinds of new assassins coming.

I think this may well be my favourite mini GW have ever made.

I’m so impressed with the Horus Ascended model. The Sons have always been a top contender for which legion I’d do and this might tip them over the line.

Love to see previously lore stuff get models - nice one too.

Now I want to see them against the Tau in 40K

Cannot wait for the Venenum Clade to get their mini.

Not sure what GW mean by new "character series" for the primarchs. Horus ascended is just a nicer model than the original and slightly better scaled - are they just going to bigify the primarchs?

As other people have pointed out we already have models for all the primarchs that went daemon before the end of the heresy (i.e. the seige), except for Fulgrim, so...?

 Boringstuff wrote:
Not sure what GW mean by new "character series" for the primarchs. Horus ascended is just a nicer model than the original and slightly better scaled - are they just going to bigify the primarchs?

As other people have pointed out we already have models for all the primarchs that went daemon before the end of the heresy (i.e. the seige), except for Fulgrim, so...?

You know, famous Primarchs at the tail end of the heresy. So trampled Sanguineous, modelled so Horus can use him as an alternative base, decapitated Ferrus strewn across the battlefield, Rogal Dorn as an armless skeleton and so on.

 Boringstuff wrote:
Not sure what GW mean by new "character series" for the primarchs. Horus ascended is just a nicer model than the original and slightly better scaled - are they just going to bigify the primarchs?

As other people have pointed out we already have models for all the primarchs that went daemon before the end of the heresy (i.e. the seige), except for Fulgrim, so...?

likely it'll be some of the older primarchs updated to look better (some of the older models haven't aged as well as they could have) and new weapons options. for example a lotta people I know are expecting we'll get Dorn with a sword and shield.


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Boringstuff wrote:
Not sure what GW mean by new "character series" for the primarchs. Horus ascended is just a nicer model than the original and slightly better scaled - are they just going to bigify the primarchs?

As other people have pointed out we already have models for all the primarchs that went daemon before the end of the heresy (i.e. the seige), except for Fulgrim, so...?

You know, famous Primarchs at the tail end of the heresy. So trampled Sanguineous, modelled so Horus can use him as an alternative base, decapitated Ferrus strewn across the battlefield, Rogal Dorn as an armless skeleton and so on.

Dorn died well after the heresy and is a good example of what they could do given he's depicted with differant weapons in SOT


general thoughts on what we could see:

Dorn: Sword and Board
Gulliman: using the Gauntlets of Ultramar
Russ: using his spear.
Sanguinius: just an improved model but rules reflecting his "I WON'T DIE THIS DAY!" thing.
Jaghati Khan: On a jet bike
Alpharius: Headless as a display piece on Dorn's base... or Omegion
Ferrus: wasn't there a scene in MoM where he appers as basicly a "legionarrie of the damned"? that'd be a pretty awesome ferrus model
Perty: won't actually get a new mini so Iron Warriors can be salty about being ignored.(I joke I joke but he's a tough one as he's not changed much physically over the heresy and largely has used the same weaponry)
Lorgar: a chaos'd up Lorgar would be good, the guy took a level in bad ass following Istavan

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Something unexpected...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/09/01/heresy-thursday-assassinate-enemy-infiltrators-with-their-own-weapons/

It also sounds like there may be other kinds of new assassins coming.

I think this may well be my favourite mini GW have ever made.

Nice model but I am unsure how it fits in with the current stuff. Is it a legal option in either SM or Mechanicum list? I would have preferred more helm and shoulder pad images.

Is it plastic?

No idea, but I’m assuming Forgeworld for now.

I would point out that not all of the character series are Primarchs; I’ve just been reading Eye of Terra and Lorgar has a vision of a near Daemon Prince sized Argel Tal, so it’s entirely possible that they could be doing some of the secondary characters.

I think the image of Mortarian from SOT is far enough removed from his 40k form to justify another model tbh.

 Strg Alt wrote:

Nice model but I am unsure how it fits in with the current stuff. Is it a legal option in either SM or Mechanicum list? I would have preferred more helm and shoulder pad images.

Agents of the Emperor/Warmaster in the Imperial book probably.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The Vanus Assassin, I have to say, is one I never thought would see the tabletops.

They always struck me as an information warrior, the type of Assassin who ruins the reputations of their targets and gets their people to turn against them. Like if there was a 41st Millennium version of Twitter, and cancellation literally meant death.

Twin pistols and mechadendrites is not the image that came to mind.

yup same here. but she will make a great base for female mechanicum models I reckons. I hope that is a data spike of somekind on her hand.

As for Horus, looks good. as usual the base is jank as hell but thats a easy fix. I don't think perty (I think it was the iron cage and offering up the Imperial Fists geneseed that elevated Perty finally to demon prince then going and playing with the daemoncabula in his spare time) and lorgar (I think logar asended on Sicarus then went into seclusion and hasn't been seen in 10,000 years or so) went full demon prince until after the siege but they may rewrite that in the books. i've only read the first two terra books so far.

im kinda sad that there is no new plastic stuff coming out soonish™/© as its a good way to bring in newish people who don't want to deal with resin. I mean the resin is there but choice is nice.

As for the BL books there are tons of stories yet to tell. The scouring lasted 7 years. the imperials dealing with the twin deaths of big e and mal. The traitors running for the EOT while stopping and stealing anything that isn't bolted down along the way. The IronCage with Dorn getting humbled by Perty, Death of Konrad Curze by M'Shen. The High lords sleezing their way into power and totally ruling in 'his name'. The retaking of Mars and purging of the dark mechanicum. The breaking up of the legions and the Grey knights re-appearing after years of training in the warp. I wonder if they will keep the Emperor lucid enough just to help them turn the Golden Throne into the monstrosity that it becomes and lay down some laws like Malcador the Hero, the breaking up of the Legions. Guilt tripping the remaining primarchs you know bad daddy stuff.

There is more then enough meat left on the bone to milk a Scouring Series for another decade. I hope ADB gets to write the death of Curze, I think hes earned it. I'd also like to see the Ironcage from both sides like A thousand sons/prospero burns was supposed to be.