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 ImAGeek wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I'm fairly sure the helmet was shown in the preview? I won't be using it on him either way. Probably keep it for a sgt in one of the squads or maybe a generic palatine blade.

It wasn’t, I went and checked before I posted. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/09/the-faultless-blade-duels-his-way-onto-the-horus-heresys-battlefields/

If it’s been shown somewhere, I haven’t seen it.

Oh no youre right, I saw it on eBay ha.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I'm fairly sure the helmet was shown in the preview? I won't be using it on him either way. Probably keep it for a sgt in one of the squads or maybe a generic palatine blade.

It wasn’t, I went and checked before I posted. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/09/the-faultless-blade-duels-his-way-onto-the-horus-heresys-battlefields/

If it’s been shown somewhere, I haven’t seen it.

It's been shown by folks that already have the model

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I'm fairly sure the helmet was shown in the preview? I won't be using it on him either way. Probably keep it for a sgt in one of the squads or maybe a generic palatine blade.

It wasn’t, I went and checked before I posted. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/09/the-faultless-blade-duels-his-way-onto-the-horus-heresys-battlefields/

If it’s been shown somewhere, I haven’t seen it.

It's been shown by folks that already have the model

Thanks! Looks pretty cool.

Weapon packs are £26 (same as the others), Cards are £11 and the Predator is £40.

£40? So £30-£32 depending where you shop.

More than I was expecting, but not too awful.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
£40? So £30-£32 depending where you shop.

More than I was expecting, but not too awful.

Same - although it's the same price as the current Predator. I think the Rhino being so cheap has skewed our expectations somewhat.

Predator has at least two more sprues than the basic Deimos Rhino. Not at all surprised by the price, doesn't the price of a plastic kit always reflect the number of unique sprues (as in, not doubles) in the kit?

beast_gts wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
£40? So £30-£32 depending where you shop.

More than I was expecting, but not too awful.

Same - although it's the same price as the current Predator. I think the Rhino being so cheap has skewed our expectations somewhat.

In retrospect I think the Deimos Rhino price is a combination of it not having a Razorback sprue included and the poor reception of the Sororitas rhino price more than anything else.
On that basis, the Deimos predator being the exact same price as the regular one could probably have been seen coming.

Unrelated to price, it’s cool to see the dome-top back in plastic - I couldn’t afford one on my pocket money back when they were originally on sale - and I really like the new sponson mount system as it’s a significant upgrade from true current one and the original both.

Though now I’m wondering if they’re going to release a “relic predator” data slate for 40K to cover the extra sponson/turret options…?

 tauist wrote:
Predator has at least two more sprues than the basic Deimos Rhino. Not at all surprised by the price, doesn't the price of a plastic kit always reflect the number of unique sprues (as in, not doubles) in the kit?

Partially that, partially the size of the finished model, partially the value in game, and partially GW hitting the random number generator.


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beast_gts wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
£40? So £30-£32 depending where you shop.

More than I was expecting, but not too awful.

Same - although it's the same price as the current Predator. I think the Rhino being so cheap has skewed our expectations somewhat.

I wonder what the Predator will be in Australia, given 40 quid would translate to $84AUD based on the Gellerpox and Cultists... but the Rhino over here didn't come in particularly cheaply at $78AUD, so I'd be surprised if the Pred is only $6 more. The old Predator kit is $83 though.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
£40? So £30-£32 depending where you shop.

More than I was expecting, but not too awful.

Same - although it's the same price as the current Predator. I think the Rhino being so cheap has skewed our expectations somewhat.

In retrospect I think the Deimos Rhino price is a combination of it not having a Razorback sprue included and the poor reception of the Sororitas rhino price more than anything else.
On that basis, the Deimos predator being the exact same price as the regular one could probably have been seen coming.

Unrelated to price, it’s cool to see the dome-top back in plastic - I couldn’t afford one on my pocket money back when they were originally on sale - and I really like the new sponson mount system as it’s a significant upgrade from true current one and the original both.

Though now I’m wondering if they’re going to release a “relic predator” data slate for 40K to cover the extra sponson/turret options…?

I've emailed about updating the Sicaran entry from IA Compendium to cover the new sponsons and such, got a form reply. Also asked if they were going to drop the Kratos power to match the points cost.

I'd really just expect to have to wait until the next Codex SM, then we will see Contemptors and Predators updated and Spartans, Leviathans, Kratos, and Sicarans all included.

 Jadenim wrote:
I would point out that not all of the character series are Primarchs; I’ve just been reading Eye of Terra and Lorgar has a vision of a near Daemon Prince sized Argel Tal, so it’s entirely possible that they could be doing some of the secondary characters.

Probably, but not Argel Tal.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Jadenim wrote:
I would point out that not all of the character series are Primarchs; I’ve just been reading Eye of Terra and Lorgar has a vision of a near Daemon Prince sized Argel Tal, so it’s entirely possible that they could be doing some of the secondary characters.

Probably, but not Argel Tal.

Spoiler:

Y'know, because Erebus murdered him before he could ascend.

More like kinda not 100% dick, still mostly dick tho but not Lorgar levels

So, I would like to see mk6 weapons set. Specifically melee.
When we gonna get that?
I need them go make a command squad

What day do the Forge World new releases go live on the website? If I remember rightly it was moved from Friday?

FW really are impressing with the quality of their new releases, I'm going to be absolutely broke at this rate. I'll be buying all of the Emperor's Children releases (so happy with the love they have finally given to my beloved EC ) and most of the Necromunda stuff too.

Actually yeah, if anybody knows what time/day FW release go up in Aus that'd be appreciated. Haven't bought anything from FW in years but will definitely grab these Praetors

Forge World releases go up at 10am on Fridays, UK time.

Any word on when the new assassin is supposed to come up for order?

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Jadenim wrote:
I would point out that not all of the character series are Primarchs; I’ve just been reading Eye of Terra and Lorgar has a vision of a near Daemon Prince sized Argel Tal, so it’s entirely possible that they could be doing some of the secondary characters.

Probably, but not Argel Tal.

Spoiler:

Y'know, because Erebus murdered him before he could ascend.

I did consider that.

beast_gts wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
£40? So £30-£32 depending where you shop.

More than I was expecting, but not too awful.

Same - although it's the same price as the current Predator. I think the Rhino being so cheap has skewed our expectations somewhat.

True. As I said, with the right discount it’s still a fairly decent price, especially given we can have four to a squadron. Just wouldn’t have said no to it being a wee bit cheaper!

Do you suppose it's feasible to kitbash the Mars Predator kit with the Deimos one? Are the turrets interchangable? Sponsons probably not..

If it's aynthing like the resin one, and probably is, then not the turret either.

 tauist wrote:
Do you suppose it's feasible to kitbash the Mars Predator kit with the Deimos one? Are the turrets interchangable? Sponsons probably not..

Depends how the top plate works. On the Mars pattern, the turret ring is a drop-in replacement for the main roof hatch. On the Deimos Rhino, that whole top plate and hatch is on the same sprue as the side doors. So it looks like the top plate will be different between the two as well, which makes it likely they would be incompatible.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


True. As I said, with the right discount it’s still a fairly decent price, especially given we can have four to a squadron. Just wouldn’t have said no to it being a wee bit cheaper!

Squadrons of 4 is a bit tricky given they have to all fire at the same target (excepting odd sponson or defensive weapons at nearest infantry).

2 squadrons of 4 tho, that might be interesting! and under 1000pts for most builds!

stato wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


True. As I said, with the right discount it’s still a fairly decent price, especially given we can have four to a squadron. Just wouldn’t have said no to it being a wee bit cheaper!

Squadrons of 4 is a bit tricky given they have to all fire at the same target (excepting odd sponson or defensive weapons at nearest infantry).

2 squadrons of 4 tho, that might be interesting! and under 1000pts for most builds!

This is 30K/40K. One or two Predators would be fine. Leave squadrons of four for Epic.

No way! I’m going Iron Wing.

I will be needing precisely all The Predators.

 Strg Alt wrote:

stato wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


True. As I said, with the right discount it’s still a fairly decent price, especially given we can have four to a squadron. Just wouldn’t have said no to it being a wee bit cheaper!

Squadrons of 4 is a bit tricky given they have to all fire at the same target (excepting odd sponson or defensive weapons at nearest infantry).

2 squadrons of 4 tho, that might be interesting! and under 1000pts for most builds!

This is 30K/40K. One or two Predators would be fine. Leave squadrons of four for Epic.

If the Doc wants to run Ironwing (or another Legion's equivalent), let the guy do so - 'tis his army (and wallet), after all.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
No way! I’m going Iron Wing.

I will be needing precisely all The Predators.

Except for The Predator, presumably, but including Prey?

I said all and I meants all.

The Predator will however not be fielded or watched, but instead sealed in concrete, wrapped in lead, bit of clingfilm, and then buried under your Mum’s house. For safekeeping.

 Dysartes wrote:

If the Doc wants to run Ironwing (or another Legion's equivalent), let the guy do so - 'tis his army (and wallet), after all.

I think 2 squadrons of 4 loaded out with a balance of weapons, and a couple of Sicaran to pick off targets that would be overkill for a 4 predator fusillade.

Just need some solid rumours on likelihood of other weapon loadouts for predator and Sicaran.

 Strg Alt wrote:
This is 30K/40K. One or two Predators would be fine. Leave squadrons of four for Epic.

Bold of you to publicly admit you aren't any fun at parties.
Tank armies are fun and look pretty.