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I think I’d feel better about them being so boringly similar to the normal MkVI helmets, if they weren’t nearly 15 quid for 10…

Yeah… the six without the U are something you could achieve yourself with the basic plastics and a line scriber tool if you had the patience and a steady hand. I also have no idea what makes them “ultramarine” rather than “anymarine” - do other legions have an aversion to stripes?

Yeah, I won't lie, as far as I'm concerned, they're the first real "miss".

The shoulder pads are nice, I like the raised lip of the ultima symbol, but the helmets are just incredibly dull. They're not "Ultramarine", they don't really have any stylistic quality that marks them as more "Ultramarine" than any other helmet, aside from the Chapter sigil on three of the generic helms.

With the others, you could spread them out amidst a whole squad, or just on Sergeants. These don't look interesting enough for Sergeants, and would be a waste on infantry because they're so generic. And before anyone says "the Ultramarines are the geneic Legion, they should have the generic parts", no Legion is generic. Look at the Invictarii, look at the Ultramarines head upgrades from the previous releases. Plenty to be done there, and plenty of flavour. These are just... dull. I'd honestly rather have something closer to the Space Wolves heads than these.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're Ultramarines, a group not exactly known for being outlandish or ostentatious.

I'm sorry, have you SEEN the Invictarii?

Have you seen the previous Ultramarines heads?

You might be confusing them with 40k Ultramarines, but that's not the same for 30k.

So... the Typhon disappeared from the FW site. Was looking at getting one in the near future, but I guess we're now waiting for a plastic version?

Night Lords & Iron Hands upgrade packs are up for pre-order next weekend


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Radium wrote:
So... the Typhon disappeared from the FW site. Was looking at getting one in the near future, but I guess we're now waiting for a plastic version?

Either a plastic version or a new FW kit that gives you Spartan sprues for the hull and resin (probably redesigned pieces) just for the gun. The former would of course be preferred, but the latter also seems possible to me - I don't see GW spending plastic tooling for yet another Heresy tank...

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

Radium wrote:
So... the Typhon disappeared from the FW site. Was looking at getting one in the near future, but I guess we're now waiting for a plastic version?

Either a plastic version or a new FW kit that gives you Spartan sprues for the hull and resin (probably redesigned pieces) just for the gun. The former would of course be preferred, but the latter also seems possible to me - I don't see GW spending plastic tooling for yet another Heresy tank...

You don't? There is still the Typhon, Cerberus, Damocles Rhino, and Vindicator all low hanging fruit for GW.

beast_gts wrote:
Night Lords & Iron Hands upgrade packs are up for pre-order next weekend


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Great news!

Buying these UM heads for my sergeants! Already had striped helmets (2 Raven guard resin helmet kits), but these are the smaller new scale, much more agreeable for my OCD hehehe!

I also like the 90 degree angled slits next to the eyes. Not a fan of the plain side grille however, the grille slits seem too large and the positioning is a bit off based on the pict. But that MKVI tactical kit needs all the variety it can get, however subtle..

Still waiting for more troop options. Preferably Assault marines.

Won't be for a while, mid-next year at the earliest and there won't be another big splash release for HH IMO.

I like how the fury slickback has replaced the massive topknots as the stock Warhammer hairstyle.

Remember when Horus Heresy was full of interesting twists and revelations that changed the way we looked at the elder imperium? Like when we learned that the Ultramarines didn't really use the upside down omega symbol... That they used golden laurels instead. They were all blue and gold with hardly any white.
It was similar to learning that all the space wolves wear handmade leather gimp masks.
Too bad FW totally forgot everything they were doing a few years ago.

I'm here for the sw gimp masks. Just ordered some for a project.

Gonna order those IH heads and shoulders. Both look great.

Horus Heresy Exemplary Battles – Scorch the Heads of the Hydra With Faith and Flame

Alpha Legion Effrit Disruption Cadre & Salamanders Adherents Squad.


So now in the Exemplary Battles series we have:

PDFs:
The Scouring of Gilden's Star (WB)
The Breaking of the Perfect Fortress (RG)
The Battle for Kalium Gate (EC/WS)
The Battle of Calth: Underworld War (UM)
The Battle of Perditus Umbral-51 (DA/DG)
The Battle of Armatura (WE)
The Siege of Hydra Cordatus: The Sundering of the Cadmean Citadel (IW)
The Defence of Sotha: Aegida’s Lamnet (NL)
The Battle of Pluto: Hydra’s Devastation (IF)
The Battle of Trisolian: Vengeful Spirit (SW/SoH)
The Axandria IV Incident (TS)
The Battle of Nyrcon City: Vision in the Flames (AL/Sal)

Exemplary Battles Unit Update


Units:
UM Nemesis Destroyer Squad - Themed Destroyers
DG Mortus Poisoner Squad - Themed Destroyers
WE Red Hand Destroyer Assault Squad - Themed Destroyers
WS Dark Sons of Death Squad - Themed Destroyers
IW Dominator Cohort - Themed Terminators (Cataphractii)
IF Huscarl Squad - Themed Terminators (Cataphractii)
NL Atramentar Squad - Themed Terminators (Tartaros / Contekar?)
DA Inner Circle Knights Cenobium (Order of the Broken Claws) - New variant
EC Sun Killer Squad - Heavy Weapon / Support Squad
RG Deliverer Squad - Themed Terminators (Cataphractii)
WB Procurators - Themed Assault Squad
SW Jorlund Hunter Pack - Themed Despolier Squad (Hand Flamers)
SoH Chieftain Squad - Command Squad / Retinue
TS Numerologist Cabal - Psychic Techmarine
AL Effrit Disruption Cadre - Themed Scouts
Sal Adherents Squad - Themed Despolier / Veteran Squad

And are waiting for Blood Angels & Iron Hands.

We’ve had Thousand Sons, maths wizards or something I think.

Edit: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/09/16/unleash-the-unlimited-power-of-numerology-with-a-free-download-for-warhammer-the-horus-heresy/

 ImAGeek wrote:
We’ve had Thousand Sons, maths wizards or something I think.

You're right! I'll update the list.

I'm honestly amazed that GW didn't stick all the Exemplary unit entries in a 2022 annual with the Ruinstorm list. It would have sold.

 The Phazer wrote:
I'm honestly amazed that GW didn't stick all the Exemplary unit entries in a 2022 annual with the Ruinstorm list. It would have sold.

Probably wanted to wait until all 18 legions had their unit, otherwise it would be all "why didnt x legion get a unit" and "GW is leaving out a few just to sell another book later and invalidate this one"

 tauist wrote:
I also like the 90 degree angled slits next to the eyes. Not a fan of the plain side grille however, the grille slits seem too large and the positioning is a bit off based on the pict.

The problem with grilles is that FW designers pretty much always fail to think where the helmet air ducts/filters/whatever are and just slap them willy nilly randomly. Which in case of Mk 6 is bigger deal than in other marks because the front space is supposed to be full of sensors and stuff, yet their designs pretty much always ignores the fact that space is already taken with hard to move internals. Ditto with Mk 6 with sensor beak taken off and the front replaced with simpler grill (half of new resin helmets), I don't think even one design took into account ripples from such a change...

Uptonius wrote:
Remember when Horus Heresy was full of interesting twists and revelations that changed the way we looked at the elder imperium?

Most of them were gak, though. 30K is supposed to be this golden era of prosperity and reason yet when you look at Imperial Army and SM Legions, they look like barbaric primitives compared to Imperial Guard and SM Chapters of M41. In both looks and organization. Just compare Valdor and Trajan, which one strikes you as golden age leader of Custodes and which is a neanderthal wrapped into freshly skinned furs?

Frankly, I was shocked when FW shown Solar Auxilia (and then not so shocked to learn it was sculptor personal pet project that went against leadership orders) because they really don't fit into 'new' HH, too modern and professional, despite being based on 50s visual style. Really, first wave of Primaris (plus Vanguard) looks far more HH than actual HH models, doubly so when you look at old descriptions of Terran born 'Imperial Truth' marines. 'New' HH has none of that save for a handful of units...

Assuming 2 of the traitor legions will get pitted against the BA and IH, I wonder if they'll reuse those traitor legions units, or if they'll get new ones.


And if every Legion gets a second round of Exemplary units, I hope the 1st get the Naufragia. The idea of plasma/phosphex cannon wielding terminators tickles me pink.

 Snrub wrote:
Assuming 2 of the traitor legions will get pitted against the BA and IH, I wonder if they'll reuse those traitor legions units, or if they'll get new ones.

BA didn't get a unit in The Scouring of Gilden's Star (BA vs WB), so the odds are on there being nothing for their opponents.

 Irbis wrote:

 tauist wrote:
I also like the 90 degree angled slits next to the eyes. Not a fan of the plain side grille however, the grille slits seem too large and the positioning is a bit off based on the pict.

The problem with grilles is that FW designers pretty much always fail to think where the helmet air ducts/filters/whatever are and just slap them willy nilly randomly. Which in case of Mk 6 is bigger deal than in other marks because the front space is supposed to be full of sensors and stuff, yet their designs pretty much always ignores the fact that space is already taken with hard to move internals. Ditto with Mk 6 with sensor beak taken off and the front replaced with simpler grill (half of new resin helmets), I don't think even one design took into account ripples from such a change...

I'm thinking the MKVI "beak" lore has been retconned by now. The stuff about the beak containing extra sensors etc feels like a homage to that one ABC Warrior who dies in Nemesis The Warlock comics in hindsight (this robots head looks eerily familiar doesnt it?). In the days of RT, 2000AD crosspollinated into the book somewhat, at least in terms of in-jokes etc IMHO

Doesn't the lore now state that MKVI's strenghts are in stealth ops? Or do they actually still insist on the sensors thing?

Thousand Sons. Nice.

Simple but effective

The bare head is really dull, but the rest are quite good without being over the top

I feel you could swap these and the Blood Angels around and you wouldn't really notice. Not that that is a necessarily bad thing though.

Another “is this really MkVI” set of shoulders though. Whether this is a bad thing is up to you of course.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Another “is this really MkVI” set of shoulders though. Whether this is a bad thing is up to you of course.

Indeed. They should have found a more creative way to add detail without adding a rim, perhaps an engraved border, service studs or curios.