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Just read new HH rumours on B&CS: A new "big box" release with a new Dread and another MK of armour is supposedly in the works. Dread could be Deredeo or a completely new design (some even speculated Furibundus from RT?!), armour MK either MKII or MKV..

Take all of this with a mountain of salt

That’s not a rumour, that’s people speculating how they might introduce a new armour mark with an old rumour about a new dread thrown in. Unless we’re looking at different threads.

I'm of the opinion that new infantry, be it breaches, assault, mk2-5, whatever, will be in a new box release. Like ask the 40k and AoS faction vs faction boxes. A great way to introduce new plastic mechanicum/deamon/guard/what ever else.
Basically, their coming. Maybe not what we individually want, right away, but truly, we're in the best time we've ever been in for heresy.
Plastic. Mainstream. Available. Reasonably less expensive than to begin with.
Now, if I can just get my act together and actually do something with my thousands of points/ models/ $$$ worth I already have, before even more comes out that, I won't be able to fight the temptation to buy!

yeah this ^ the rumour of a new heresy dreadnought that popped up a while back made me think this too. 40 marines new characters new dread etc all in a big box to get people to invest big in the initial offset is classic GW.

It’s just speculation.

Gotta love some good ol' fashioned rumor reverb.

There was a rumor that they'd introduce new units in big box sets that were themed around two legions fighting against each other, much like the starter set. Dunno if that's still a thing or if it's just a mix of reverb/speculation.

Either way, every day we don't get assault marines, I get saltier.

Alpha Legion are up.



https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/05/alpha-legion-upgrades-let-you-pledge-the-hydra-to-horus-the-emperor-other-delete-as-appropriate/

I rather like them and the helmets might actually fit for some other Legions too.

Hail Hydra!

Those helmets are cool.

Yeah, helmets are ace.

I could see them looking great in an Raven Guard army

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Yeah, helmets are ace.

I could see them looking great in an Raven Guard army

Thousand Sons and Blood Angels as well.

What about next weeks teaser? A shadowy alpha legion character?

 GaroRobe wrote:
What about next weeks teaser? A shadowy alpha legion character?

Basically confirms that the dude in the teaser trailer was Exodus IMO.

Yeah if they're specifically saying Alpha Legion then it's definitely Exodus.

Well, the pads are good and the helmets actually work nicely out imo. Certainly better than what some other legions got.

One of the best upgrade sets for MKVI! They really knocked this one out of the park. I'll be getting the heads even though I don't play alpha legion.

Wish they would release these faster though, still waiting for those UM heads for my sergeants..

Are the demon rules, mutations, and cultists rules out yet?

 Gert wrote:
Yeah if they're specifically saying Alpha Legion then it's definitely Exodus.

Nah, they just want you to think it's Exodus

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Yeah, helmets are ace.

I could see them looking great in an Raven Guard army

Thousand Sons and Blood Angels as well.

Thats very funny, pointing out Alpha Legion specific gear could pass as basicly any other legion gear.
Well done GW design team I guess

 Grot 6 wrote:
Are the demon rules, mutations, and cultists rules out yet?

Not to my knowledge.

The Alpha Legion helmets are cool, but the hydras on the pads look like rope from a distance.

I was kinda hoping for the more Alpha like iconography rather than the hydras, but cool nonetheless.

Fatty Horus is pre-order next week. Along with UM and TS resin upgrades.

Is this it now, are these all the heads?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Is this it now, are these all the heads?

Nope. There’s still RG to be shown, and they’re quite a few behind the reveals with the releases.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
On the other hand we were promised we'd learn what really happened at the end of the Siege of Terra. That's going to be a hoot, I'm sure.

I'm sure the psychic attack Big E uses to finish off Horus will be the thing that triggered the slow awakening of the Necrons, or something equally as unnecessary.

Clearly the Emperor tapped into the power of Malice in order to cancel the blessings of the other dark gods in Horus.

His attack lit the beacon that summoned the Tyranids.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Is this it now, are these all the heads?

Nope. There’s still RG to be shown, and they’re quite a few behind the reveals with the releases.

Salamanders, Word Bearers and Alpha Legion are waiting to be released and of course Raven Guard aren't shown yet. Raven Guard also already have old MKVI upgrades so it will be interesting how they will change the new ones

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
On the other hand we were promised we'd learn what really happened at the end of the Siege of Terra. That's going to be a hoot, I'm sure.

I'm sure the psychic attack Big E uses to finish off Horus will be the thing that triggered the slow awakening of the Necrons, or something equally as unnecessary.

Clearly the Emperor tapped into the power of Malice in order to cancel the blessings of the other dark gods in Horus.

His attack lit the beacon that summoned the Tyranids.

Wasn't there a HH book that hinted to the Tyranids being made aware of this galaxy when some alien psykic machine was blown up by the Alpha Legion?

 stonehorse wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
On the other hand we were promised we'd learn what really happened at the end of the Siege of Terra. That's going to be a hoot, I'm sure.

I'm sure the psychic attack Big E uses to finish off Horus will be the thing that triggered the slow awakening of the Necrons, or something equally as unnecessary.

Clearly the Emperor tapped into the power of Malice in order to cancel the blessings of the other dark gods in Horus.

His attack lit the beacon that summoned the Tyranids.

Wasn't there a HH book that hinted to the Tyranids being made aware of this galaxy when some alien psykic machine was blown up by the Alpha Legion?

Loyalist IW vs. Night Lords, but yes, and it was outright stated, not hinted. It literally said, in the epilogue ''This act woke and attracted the Great Devourer'' - the Astronomican just keeps it interested. The book, as well as the device, is called Pharos

Hence my "awakening the Necrons" comment.

And it was one of those "shrinking the universe" moments that just didn't need to exist.

I hate that the 8th Legion is part of that particular piece of lore.

Thanks Haley./s

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hence my "awakening the Necrons" comment.

And it was one of those "shrinking the universe" moments that just didn't need to exist.

Not sure if the old old 2nd edition small bit of lore is still relevant, but when Necrons were introduced in 2nd edition it was Imperial activity that woke them up. The Eldar tried to stop them as they were aware of the 'sleeping Ones', and knew the danger they posed.

However that is very old lore, from the 90's, from a White Dwarf... so yeah, could easily be replaced.


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Tsagualsa wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
On the other hand we were promised we'd learn what really happened at the end of the Siege of Terra. That's going to be a hoot, I'm sure.

I'm sure the psychic attack Big E uses to finish off Horus will be the thing that triggered the slow awakening of the Necrons, or something equally as unnecessary.

Clearly the Emperor tapped into the power of Malice in order to cancel the blessings of the other dark gods in Horus.

His attack lit the beacon that summoned the Tyranids.

Wasn't there a HH book that hinted to the Tyranids being made aware of this galaxy when some alien psykic machine was blown up by the Alpha Legion?

Loyalist IW vs. Night Lords, but yes, and it was outright stated, not hinted. It literally said, in the epilogue ''This act woke and attracted the Great Devourer'' - the Astronomican just keeps it interested. The book, as well as the device, is called Pharos

Really hate how they are erasing all mystery from the lore. It makes the lore somehow smaller.

 stonehorse wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hence my "awakening the Necrons" comment.

And it was one of those "shrinking the universe" moments that just didn't need to exist.

Not sure if the old old 2nd edition small bit of lore is still relevant, but when Necrons were introduced in 2nd edition it was Imperial activity that woke them up. The Eldar tried to stop them as they were aware of the 'sleeping Ones', and knew the danger they posed.

In the 2nd edition lore, when Necrons were much more egyptian-themed, it was straight up space-british Imperials digging in the space-Pyramids and waking the Space-Mummy Not exactly a literary masterpiece, but funny in a camp way.

Anyhow, i agree that the universe certainly seems to shrink - summaries of newer novels, especially heresy novels, read like a random page out of a Marvel wiki or sth. like that. Everybody met and fought everybody else several times, there are about 10 really significant planets in the galaxy where all the action happens, and every large development in the wider background can either be traced directly to the actions of a primarch or main faction figurehead. It's like Poochie the Dog in space.

The Imperium of the 41st Millennium waking the Necrons doesn't strike me as being egregious or world-shrinking as it was the method through which the "present" timeline of 40k came to know the Necrons.

Tying their awaking to some innocuous or previously-well-known-but-completely-unrelated event (eg. Big E killing Horus) on the other hand would be silly, as it's tying too much of the present situation of 40k to the Horus Heresy. That's why the whole psychic beacon summoning the Hive Fleet thing is so unnecessary. The Hive Fleets just appearing at the edges of the galaxy made for an interesting mystery - who are they, how many of them are there, why are they here, what are they really - and explaining a mystery with something like "We DM'd them by accident 10k years ago. Whoops!" just cheapens their presence in the story.

So I hope they don't do that.