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Meh. At least they're not staggering this out across 18 weeks I guess

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
The slow march to Forge World's inevitable phasing out continues.

Umm you think gw starts putting out resin?

You realize right these are fw resin upgrades right?

I like that FW is doing upgrade bits for the Contemptors. I'm a little disappointed that it's only the chest piece and not the other pieces (legs, shoulders, etc) as well.

Oh, well. It gives the people who bought the resin ones something to crow about instead of feeling sad and wishing they would have waited.

Bit disappointing.

All we needed was the shoulder/elbow joint.
Or for GW to actually supply the contemptor weapon upgrade sprue.

With this new system, you'll still have to pay for the resin upgrade and a whole contemptor, but if the resin contemptor torso is more than the 27 usd it takes for the weapon upgrade sprue, that'll be a straight downgrade.

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Meh. At least they're not staggering this out across 18 weeks I guess

Only have to wait until March for something new!
To preview.
Maybe.

Still waiting on that chaos assassin too.

and, y'know, all the other stuff people need to make a proper army that isn't 90% resin.

soviet13 wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
The slow march to Forge World's inevitable phasing out continues.

????

This is an old forgeworld product being replaced by a slightly different forgeworld product.

They are moving as much of each thing over to plastic as possible, it feels like. FW seems less and less relevant. These strike me as at best a middle-ground offering until 30k proves worthwhile to tool out unique plastic upgrades or not, so while yes they are FW, they aren't the whole kits anymore. Overall, I think 30k going to plastic was the death knell for FW.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
Overall, I think 30k going to plastic was the death knell for FW.

I think your prognostication is overly pessimistic. Forge World isn't losing any money here. The 30k range was pretty much finished a while ago, with model sales slowly declining. Switching to plastic is driving new 30k sales that simply aren't there any more for the resin stuff. Forge World also gets to double dip by providing upgrade bits for the new plastic models. I just hope that the 40k models begin switching over to plastic as well. I would LOVE to see a plastic Storm Eagle.

Personally, I think the sculptors are having more fun making characters for Blood Bowl and Necromunda.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

soviet13 wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
The slow march to Forge World's inevitable phasing out continues.

????

This is an old forgeworld product being replaced by a slightly different forgeworld product.

They are moving as much of each thing over to plastic as possible, it feels like. FW seems less and less relevant. These strike me as at best a middle-ground offering until 30k proves worthwhile to tool out unique plastic upgrades or not, so while yes they are FW, they aren't the whole kits anymore. Overall, I think 30k going to plastic was the death knell for FW.

The 'secret' is FW was never particularly relevant. It was small scale production of premium priced kits for a limited audience.
Of course they want a bigger audience for more sales in a medium that does economy of scale better.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

soviet13 wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
The slow march to Forge World's inevitable phasing out continues.

????

This is an old forgeworld product being replaced by a slightly different forgeworld product.

They are moving as much of each thing over to plastic as possible, it feels like. FW seems less and less relevant. These strike me as at best a middle-ground offering until 30k proves worthwhile to tool out unique plastic upgrades or not, so while yes they are FW, they aren't the whole kits anymore. Overall, I think 30k going to plastic was the death knell for FW.

I think you misunderstand what FW is and ignore that most of new released 30K products still are FW resin. But the way I see it every plastic set for a specialist game (including HH and lotr) is forgeworld as well, since they're designed by FW and their rules are written by the FW Team.
Additionally, FW is just a subdivision of GW, like Citadel. As long as GW is not going down, FW isn't either.

Whilst the IV legion dread is tempting, I just really want Ruinstorm rules so I can actually do some siege of terra themed joint armies!

 Gir Spirit Bane wrote:
Whilst the IV legion dread is tempting, I just really want Ruinstorm rules so I can actually do some siege of terra themed joint armies!

Considering again, that the whole point of SPECIFICALLY THE TRAITOR ESOTERIST is summoning said ruinstorm daemons.

Yeah, preferentially GW would finally release the sheets for ruinstorm atleast before the esoterist, alas GW gonna GW:

Gw's logic being got to have summoner before summoned units. Literally.

tneva82 wrote:
Gw's logic being got to have summoner before summoned units. Literally.

Which would be true, kinda, if it weren't for the fact that list building comes before psi phase

Not Online!!! wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Gw's logic being got to have summoner before summoned units. Literally.

Which would be true, kinda, if it weren't for the fact that list building comes before psi phase

I mean it's not like they sell two products that literally are unusable in the system they were created for, one of which is a massive, expensive character model.

Holy out of stock Batman. Bunch of the contemptors are now temporary out of stock. Didn’t take long…

 zedmeister wrote:
Holy out of stock Batman. Bunch of the contemptors are now temporary out of stock. Didn’t take long…

Considering every Heresy group has been doom and gloom over losing the leg and shoulder details since the announcement, I'm not surprised at the panic buying.

Why would you be surprised. Better buy them now, don't wait for when they go to lctb.
Also, buy them now, sell for 3x on ebay

Oh interesting. A single body kit seperate to the jetbikes. Wonder if that allows them to make Outriders or different Marks for the riders.

 zedmeister wrote:
Oh interesting. A single body kit seperate to the jetbikes. Wonder if that allows them to make Outriders or different Marks for the riders.

That would definitely be the smart thing to do!

There's a good amount of future-proofing across the 30k kits, and it gives me hope for what's going to come, but until those things are actually confirmed, all we can do is speculate.

Also, great source for left-handed Volkite Serpentas!

drbored wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Oh interesting. A single body kit seperate to the jetbikes. Wonder if that allows them to make Outriders or different Marks for the riders.

That would definitely be the smart thing to do!

There's a good amount of future-proofing across the 30k kits, and it gives me hope for what's going to come, but until those things are actually confirmed, all we can do is speculate.

Indeed. I reckon we'll see Javelins switch over. The rules already have them being able to take Volkites and Lascannons in place of the cyclones and the mounts are the universal sponsons used across all vehicles.

 zedmeister wrote:

drbored wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Oh interesting. A single body kit seperate to the jetbikes. Wonder if that allows them to make Outriders or different Marks for the riders.

That would definitely be the smart thing to do!

There's a good amount of future-proofing across the 30k kits, and it gives me hope for what's going to come, but until those things are actually confirmed, all we can do is speculate.

Indeed. I reckon we'll see Javelins switch over. The rules already have them being able to take Volkites and Lascannons in place of the cyclones and the mounts are the universal sponsons used across all vehicles.

Javelins could include the sponson sprue and have the missile option on the body sprue as well.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

drbored wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Oh interesting. A single body kit seperate to the jetbikes. Wonder if that allows them to make Outriders or different Marks for the riders.

That would definitely be the smart thing to do!

There's a good amount of future-proofing across the 30k kits, and it gives me hope for what's going to come, but until those things are actually confirmed, all we can do is speculate.

Indeed. I reckon we'll see Javelins switch over. The rules already have them being able to take Volkites and Lascannons in place of the cyclones and the mounts are the universal sponsons used across all vehicles.

Javelins could include the sponson sprue and have the missile option on the body sprue as well.

Aaand now I want a Predator with CML sponsons….

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

drbored wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Oh interesting. A single body kit seperate to the jetbikes. Wonder if that allows them to make Outriders or different Marks for the riders.

That would definitely be the smart thing to do!

There's a good amount of future-proofing across the 30k kits, and it gives me hope for what's going to come, but until those things are actually confirmed, all we can do is speculate.

Indeed. I reckon we'll see Javelins switch over. The rules already have them being able to take Volkites and Lascannons in place of the cyclones and the mounts are the universal sponsons used across all vehicles.

Javelins could include the sponson sprue and have the missile option on the body sprue as well.

Aaand now I want a Predator with CML sponsons….

A typhon with little missile winglets.

 zedmeister wrote:
Oh interesting. A single body kit seperate to the jetbikes. Wonder if that allows them to make Outriders or different Marks for the riders.

It does seem like it should be possible but the sprue says Scimitar B on it while other multi-use sprues had generic terms like Sponsons or Land Raider on them

But what they could easily do in the future is different armour mks for the riders

 Matrindur wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Oh interesting. A single body kit seperate to the jetbikes. Wonder if that allows them to make Outriders or different Marks for the riders.

It does seem like it should be possible but the sprue says Scimitar B on it while other multi-use sprues had generic terms like Sponsons or Land Raider on them

But what they could easily do in the future is different armour mks for the riders

A couple of the shared land Raider sprues are labeled as Spartan, so not impossible. Using the same rider sprue for bullock jetbikes or outriders would make sense.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Oh interesting. A single body kit seperate to the jetbikes. Wonder if that allows them to make Outriders or different Marks for the riders.

It does seem like it should be possible but the sprue says Scimitar B on it while other multi-use sprues had generic terms like Sponsons or Land Raider on them

But what they could easily do in the future is different armour mks for the riders

A couple of the shared land Raider sprues are labeled as Spartan, so not impossible. Using the same rider sprue for bullock jetbikes or outriders would make sense.

At least on the Webstore every sprue that is shared between the Proteus and Spartan says Land Raider or is the Tank Assessories sprue but yea it would make sense if they did it I just wouldn't expect it anytime soon this way

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

soviet13 wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:
The slow march to Forge World's inevitable phasing out continues.

????

This is an old forgeworld product being replaced by a slightly different forgeworld product.

They are moving as much of each thing over to plastic as possible, it feels like. FW seems less and less relevant. These strike me as at best a middle-ground offering until 30k proves worthwhile to tool out unique plastic upgrades or not, so while yes they are FW, they aren't the whole kits anymore. Overall, I think 30k going to plastic was the death knell for FW.

I think you misunderstand what FW is and ignore that most of new released 30K products still are FW resin. But the way I see it every plastic set for a specialist game (including HH and lotr) is forgeworld as well, since they're designed by FW and their rules are written by the FW Team.
Additionally, FW is just a subdivision of GW, like Citadel. As long as GW is not going down, FW isn't either.

Yes. I think also to add to this if you look at how the plastic model kit market has worked since forever there is a space for both the plastic and resin releases and for them to complement each other. You have the mass-produced plastic kits that sell in the thousands, are cheaper to produce and collect. Then the bespoke resin releases which are much smaller in volume, only ever going to appeal to a smaller subset of collectors and are more expensive. I think there will continue to be lots.of FW releases that are worth their while as a resin release, but would not warrant a new plastic sprue or to be released in that sort of quantity.