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 MajorWesJanson wrote:

One thing that would be nice to see in resin for Heresy would be more of the titan weapons in 28mm scale, maybe even the psy titan upgrade. Not even asking for a dire wolf or the new conversion/volkite/gravity guns, but just official warhound harpoons and more reaver and warlord carapace mounts.

Definitely, I've ended up making my own carapace gatling blasters.

Also, the 28mm Warmaster Titan! Seems like Warhammer Fest would be a good time to reveal it, so fingers crossed!

IIRC the Warlord was pushing the limits of weight when it comes to the model supporting itself, and the warmaster is a lot taller and bulkier.

Chaos Warlord needs done though, and would mainly be a swap of mostly armor plates and a new head, or there is the Dire Wolf for heavy firepower in the more affordable titan kit range.

 Platuan4th wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:

 JamesY wrote:


I bet you £1 that within 18 months we have either plastic SA or Mechanicum...

One whole english pound!

Yeah, really shows the confidence they have in their odds.

1) I hope hope hope for plastic Mechanicum robots

2) From where I'm from in the uk "Bet you a quid/ £1" is a saying to mean I have faith in it, not literally handing over of money.

A bit late to the game but: if Solar Auxilia represent the elite, originally from the regiments of the Solar system, and that Militia are ragtag, emergency / revolutionaries forces, the Imperial Army isn't represented yet ?

 godardc wrote:
A bit late to the game but: if Solar Auxilia represent the elite, originally from the regiments of the Solar system, and that Militia are ragtag, emergency / revolutionaries forces, the Imperial Army isn't represented yet ?

No it's not. If i recall correctly that was Alan's next project for HH before his death, and then it just never happened after that.

Ok thx !

Gir Spirit Bane wrote:

2) From where I'm from in the uk "Bet you a quid/ £1" is a saying to mean I have faith in it, not literally handing over of money.

Yeah, that's how it was intended. But you know, some people like to be literal.

 JamesY wrote:


Yeah, that's how it was intended. But you know, some people like to be literal.

Well, from where I am in the UK - we'll hold you to it!

SamusDrake wrote:

 JamesY wrote:


Yeah, that's how it was intended. But you know, some people like to be literal.

Well, from where I am in the UK - we'll hold you to it!

Bet's on...

All those mentions of £1?

Surely someone owes me £5 by now?


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 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

 godardc wrote:
A bit late to the game but: if Solar Auxilia represent the elite, originally from the regiments of the Solar system, and that Militia are ragtag, emergency / revolutionaries forces, the Imperial Army isn't represented yet ?

No it's not. If i recall correctly that was Alan's next project for HH before his death, and then it just never happened after that.

To be honest? Beyond “Third Line” keyword units? The Militia can cover Imperial Bulletsponges quite nicely, depending and in a fair few instance, on your picks

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
All those mentions of £1?

Surely someone owes me £5 by now?


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 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

 godardc wrote:
A bit late to the game but: if Solar Auxilia represent the elite, originally from the regiments of the Solar system, and that Militia are ragtag, emergency / revolutionaries forces, the Imperial Army isn't represented yet ?

No it's not. If i recall correctly that was Alan's next project for HH before his death, and then it just never happened after that.

To be honest? Beyond “Third Line” keyword units? The Militia can cover Imperial Bulletsponges quite nicely, depending and in a fair few instance, on your picks

Eh, the Imperial army is more like Solar aux -1 than Militia +1. Solar Aux was just the peak of the peak, as opposed to the Imperial army which was regular line troops. Militia are the basic PDF level forces. Like, as per the current rules they just put out: Only one kind of Baneblade, only 5 of the Russ turret options (some of which are kind of odd, like 1 Lascannon, or 1 autocannon), no Sponsons, and no squadrons without a specific Provenance, only 1 kind of Malcador, a stripped down (but far cheaper) Thunderbolt fighter, just to throw out some examples. Not to mention other things they could add or do. Like give them Chimeras since apparently Militia aren't good enough and Solar Aux are too good for them.

Depends on your provenance picks.

My take away (though I’ve not read beyond Angron’s early Daemonhood) is the Imperial Army was so unfathomably vast and diverse, standardisation was right off the cards. Not only was The Imperium barely nascent compared to 40K’s now, but constantly expanding and absorbing new planets. Each of which had something different to offer its new found Dear Leader.

Some would be sub-modern-PDF in terms of quality and indeed quantity. Some might be so well armed, equipped and genhanced even a Primarch make have a wary eye on them.

Everything from back woods, carrot crunching simpletons go whatever Elon Musk thinks he is but they’re actually that, and everything in between.

It’s almost akin to the rise of British Punk. We might look to the Sex Pistols as a definition of it - but the truth is it was a kind of common energy, feeling and outlet for [i]anyone[/i/]. No set rules, beyond kicking out energy and enthusiasm on stage

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:
Eh, the Imperial army is more like Solar aux -1 than Militia +1. Solar Aux was just the peak of the peak, as opposed to the Imperial army which was regular line troops. Militia are the basic PDF level forces. Like, as per the current rules they just put out: Only one kind of Baneblade, only 5 of the Russ turret options (some of which are kind of odd, like 1 Lascannon, or 1 autocannon), no Sponsons, and no squadrons without a specific Provenance, only 1 kind of Malcador, a stripped down (but far cheaper) Thunderbolt fighter, just to throw out some examples. Not to mention other things they could add or do. Like give them Chimeras since apparently Militia aren't good enough and Solar Aux are too good for them.

Gravis weapons are double-shot guns so it's still the Annihilator and Exterminator variants. Also Militia could only ever take the bog standard Malcador chassis i.e. Battlecannon or Annihilator, the Infernus and Valdor are in the Auxilia list. At the same time, the Defender straight-up doesn't exist in HH and never has.

 Gert wrote:

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:
Eh, the Imperial army is more like Solar aux -1 than Militia +1. Solar Aux was just the peak of the peak, as opposed to the Imperial army which was regular line troops. Militia are the basic PDF level forces. Like, as per the current rules they just put out: Only one kind of Baneblade, only 5 of the Russ turret options (some of which are kind of odd, like 1 Lascannon, or 1 autocannon), no Sponsons, and no squadrons without a specific Provenance, only 1 kind of Malcador, a stripped down (but far cheaper) Thunderbolt fighter, just to throw out some examples. Not to mention other things they could add or do. Like give them Chimeras since apparently Militia aren't good enough and Solar Aux are too good for them.

Gravis weapons are double-shot guns so it's still the Annihilator and Exterminator variants. Also Militia could only ever take the bog standard Malcador chassis i.e. Battlecannon or Annihilator, the Infernus and Valdor are in the Auxilia list. At the same time, the Defender straight-up doesn't exist in HH and never has.

I could have sworn they could take the defender, but it's been a minute since I looked at the 1.0 document. As for gravis I just straight up was wrong. Good Call. Still, there are a lot of things they could add to Army to allow it to be more distinct. (More Special Weapons per squad as an example)

Striking the balance between Solar Auxilia and Militia would be difficult, especially now that Auxilia has Cohorts for alternate play styles and Militia has gone up to 16 Provenances to choose from.
Adding certain units like Chimera's or Valkyries would be a shout but then it also shouldn't just be a boring copy of the Guard Codex.
Maybe bringing back the Platoon system (Command, Special, Infantry, and Heavy all together) to differentiate between the hordes of Militia and the Tercios of Auxilia.

Having had a good flick through the militia pdf now, i think they strike the right balance to marines. Shows you how fragile a regular human is when compared to the astartes at the height of their power.
Not sure how they'll play, but they certainly seem fun given all their options. Won't be hard to work up a flavourful army.

I have a TON of Dust German infantry from the Miniature Market clearance days...I can actually probably field a maxed out Levy (3 units of 50 troops) plus lots of support...something about fielding cubic feet of troops reminds me of the old Snotling Horde (Shokk Attak Guns, Runtherdz, TOO MANY Snotlings and a Boss).

 Sacredroach wrote:
I have a TON of Dust German infantry from the Miniature Market clearance days...I can actually probably field a maxed out Levy (3 units of 50 troops) plus lots of support...something about fielding cubic feet of troops reminds me of the old Snotling Horde (Shokk Attak Guns, Runtherdz, TOO MANY Snotlings and a Boss).

Too many snotlings is a conceptual asymptote, like “enuff dakka” – any attempt is doomed to failure, hilarious failure.

But you’re right, Snotlings should come back to the game.

That’s the second new word I’ve learned today!

First was rugose, courtesy of AoO The Lion.

So what do we reckon we'll have revealed to us from Warhammerfest? I know just about everyone would LIKE to see assault infantry of some description, but what are we actually expecting from this?

We're almost done with tanks. Now that they've basically confirmed we're not getting any of these in plastic any time soon, that just leaves the Vindicator, Sicaran Arcus/Punisher/Omega and the Sabre to go. Given how they're not doubling up on any kits with this line I guess that means another 3 sicaran kits, probably 2 vindi kits and 1 for the sabre.
I imagine we'll get more info on the Siege of Cthonia and the Zone Mortalis supplement.


I think the heresy reveals will go something like this.
-Vindicator kit
-One of the Sicarans
-Siege of Cthonia
-Zone Mortalis
-Surprise reveal of either breachers or Xiphon OR some stupid obscure character no one asked for.

The Vindicator kit was revealed a few weeks ago on Warhammer Community:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/09/heresy-thursday-the-plastic-legion-vindicator-is-the-ultimate-everything-killer/

 Snrub wrote:
So what do we reckon we'll have revealed to us from Warhammerfest? I know just about everyone would LIKE to see assault infantry of some description, but what are we actually expecting from this?

A starter set to take over from the hench launch box, and for the love of god it would benefit the game greatly if they added a quick pdf on Warhammer Community to include Dominus Knights...

I don't think most players will accept anything less than plastic assault marines to kick off a new wave of releases.

I'd accept plastic breachers instead of assault marines

I'll accept any plastic that's not a tank at this point....Infantry, characters, upgrades, non-astartes....

I expect we'll see another sort of starter set centered around the new campaign book that'll include jump-pack assault infantry.

Admittedly, the only reason I think this is because they explicitly stated that more plastic infantry are coming. Given they've also said (and shown) that all character / individual sculpts are remaining resin through FW... There's really no other plastic infantry they can go for other than assault. The others (scouts / breachers / snipers) are too niche to be brought out prior to generic assault-dudes. I suppose there's always the chance that the impending inductii might get their own special kit, but even then I suspect it'll be MKVI and provide assault arms + poses.. So they could knock out a plethora of units from just one kit.

But suspicions don't mean anything. Given GW's absolutely assinine mishandling of the new HH release, drowning a market which is clearly very responsible and eager to buy, with a year of pointless tanks... I wouldn't be surprised if they just released a MK5 bolter-bois tactical squid kit and called it a day. Removed - mind your language please..

Year of pointless tanks to you, very popular kits for a number of locals

Almost all of the most expensive HH models made more accessible by converting them into plastic, reducing the entry cost to the game by a wide margin? Wow, what a mishandling.

They're going to show off the two new characters being released with the new campaign book, one for fists and one for the sons of horus.

And that will round out all of the new model releases for that book:
-Chaos assassin
-New vehicle consuls, releases flavoured fists / sons of horus
-New special characters

The biggest reveal will be between the lines, that no more plastic Heresy is coming until fall. Best we can hope for is a glimpse of some palstic infantry for late 2023 after the 40k hype dies adown.

Heresy uses up specialist game release slots, so 40k wouldn't really interfere.