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 Platuan4th wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:


Mk3 and Mk6 hands are different tho.

Not anymore. Compare the hands on the ones in this pic with the plastic MKVI hands, they're the same now.

It would be clever to have all support etc. weapons interchangeable between Marks.

That's a lame upgrade if you ask me. I'll stick to the current plastic kit thanks.

Which means I better buy a few boxes while I can....

Slightly thicker fingers maybe, but definitely designed for cross-compatibility.

 Matrindur wrote:

Is that a plastic Knight Cerastus?

 Platuan4th wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:


Mk3 and Mk6 hands are different tho.

Not anymore. Compare the hands on the ones in this pic with the plastic MKVI hands, they're the same now.

No, the frontmost guy definitely still has knuckle rivets. As does the Mk2 tank gunner.

 Malika2 wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

Is that a plastic Knight Cerastus?

Yes,they said it will be plastic.

I'm a bit disappointed that they didn't take the chance to make the Assault Squad Mk5. Would have been lovely to finally have Mk5 in plastic.

I'm betting on the mystery army being custodes as they can also sell them to 40k buyers

 Platuan4th wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The support squad in the back implies they might come with the full gamut of ranged upgrade kits

Looks like the MkIII are posed to be able to use the current upgrade kits.

Yeah as long as the arms are posed and sized correctly the mk6 special weapons should be fine. Its the shoulder mounted heavy weapons that might need new kits. Although these new mk3 do seem to have a less pronounced upper trim than the current kit, so maybe not?
Overall I think this is an improvement. But I will miss the current kits faceplate design.

I'm assuming the roadmaps unnamed Lords of War will be the other Cerastus variants and the Dread will be the Deredeo. I wonder if they will be just direct ports of the FW kits, or if any new options will be added?

New army has gotta be the Mechanicum. Could be very tasty if they get decent plastic kit support.

Those assault squads are going to make GW a lot of money. As long as they have put enough time in there production schedule

 Matrindur wrote:
I'm betting on the mystery army being custodes as they can also sell them to 40k buyers

The resin Custodes are in a lot of places just doubled up versions of the plastic stuff anyway (different termies, different jetbikes). The tanks in plastic would be pretty cool though.

I still think it’s Mechanicum.

 Matrindur wrote:
I'm betting on the mystery army being custodes as they can also sell them to 40k buyers

I'd bet Mechanicus as Winter ties in with the timing of the 40K Mechanicus codex, so making a bunch of plastic stuff useable in both games makes sense.

Not holding my breath, but plastic Thallax would be sweet..

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

Not holding my breath, but plastic Thallax would be sweet..

Yeah, I also don't expect any others to make the jump, but the more that do, the better.

The assault torsos are interesting. Dominion Zephons was basically just the tactical torso

 GaroRobe wrote:
The assault torsos are interesting. Dominion Zephons was basically just the tactical torso

Yeah, they even have an on-off button for the jump pack

A plastic Cerastus Lancer!

If we're getting the Lancer surely the Castigator and Acheron will follow on as well

I agree the mystery army will be something primarily for 40k that can also be used in HH.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I agree the mystery army will be something primarily for 40k that can also be used in HH.

So Admech or Bananas?

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I agree the mystery army will be something primarily for 40k that can also be used in HH.

So Admech or Bananas?

If you go for maximum cross-sales potential it's plastic AdMech with the first DarkMech upgrade sets in resin.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I agree the mystery army will be something primarily for 40k that can also be used in HH.

So Admech or Bananas?

Unless its the rumored "new faction", my bet is on Custodes, who also have a 40k Codex lined up for spring 2024.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I agree the mystery army will be something primarily for 40k that can also be used in HH.

So Admech or Bananas?

If you go for maximum cross-sales potential it's plastic AdMech with the first DarkMech upgrade sets in resin.

Or...DM as a new army for both HH and 40K?

Siegfriedfr wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I agree the mystery army will be something primarily for 40k that can also be used in HH.

So Admech or Bananas?

Unless its the rumored "new faction", my bet is on Custodes, who also have a 40k Codex lined up for spring 2024.

AdMech have their 40k codex in winter too.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I agree the mystery army will be something primarily for 40k that can also be used in HH.

So Admech or Bananas?

If you go for maximum cross-sales potential it's plastic AdMech with the first DarkMech upgrade sets in resin.

Or...DM as a new army for both HH and 40K?

I don't know, 40k is very occupied with cranking out Codexes this year, i'm not sure it's the right time to introduce a totally new force so soon after Votann. But then again, a lot of their decisions look like they were made by intoxicated monkeys lately.

With 40k production lines being as stressed as they are, it makes all too much sense to sneak another 40k release into HH budget.

Could be something as banal as the HH version of Wardog... Moirax was it?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So pretty much what I said at the start, in the next 6ish months all we get is 2 resin heroes, with the bonus of being able to use a new plastic knight that's actually intended for 40k.

Sales of the Lancer will be counted as HH sales by GW Accounting, regardless of which game it is used for. That kit is going to be used to justify a number of future HH kits by its sales alone.

And unless you've got a source for the claim that the Lancer is "actually intended for 40k", slow your damn roll.

 Dysartes wrote:
Sales of the Lancer will be counted as HH sales by GW Accounting, regardless of which game it is used for. That kit is going to be used to justify a number of future HH kits by its sales alone.

That's... not a bad take.

So the info on the inductii was cool, post-istvaan recruits that have issues either culturally, genetically or logistically due to their rushed indoctrination into the Legions. I don't think those were a thing in HH1 were they? it'll be interesting to see how they're represented

Charax wrote:
So the info on the inductii was cool, post-istvaan recruits that have issues either culturally, genetically or logistically due to their rushed indoctrination into the Legions. I don't think those were a thing in HH1 were they? it'll be interesting to see how they're represented

They were a thing in the background, and I think the World Eaters had some rules around them?

New plastic knights is great. Plastic deredeo is nice.
The upgraded mk armour not so sure about, would rather have gotten mk2 or 5 as new kits.

Assault marines are obviously only something that has been put into design due to community backlash.

Mystery faction, probably admech but maybe imperial army? One can hope.