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 Gert wrote:
The Defiler was ordered by Abaddon to fill the ranks of the Black Legion because a big crab is a better siege engine than a tank.
Abaddon of course understands that crabs are the ultimate lifeform.

With regards to what will actually be added for Daemon Engines, folks need to chillax. Chances are its going to be like Militia and Daemon units where its given a name but not an explicit model.

We were this close to greatness!

My biggest issue with this is that the Imperial Fists are yet again having a starring role in a HH campaign. IMO, they should never be mentioned again in any new Heresy material or get another model, besides the update Dorn model, since every Legion is getting an updated Primarch model.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
My biggest issue with this is that the Imperial Fists are yet again having a starring role in a HH campaign. IMO, they should never be mentioned again in any new Heresy material or get another model, besides the update Dorn model, since every Legion is getting an updated Primarch model.

You know like anybody else here that this won´t happen. IF will get all the toys and the rest will receive hardly anything.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
My biggest issue with this is that the Imperial Fists are yet again having a starring role in a HH campaign. IMO, they should never be mentioned again in any new Heresy material or get another model, besides the update Dorn model, since every Legion is getting an updated Primarch model.

With how much attention Ultramarines get generally, I think fans can spare a few moments to give the Fists their due.

Good god the whinging about Fists is sad. Its barely passed year one of the games new edition for crying out loud.
The Praetor was dumb yes but Jesus you people have no damn patience.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Lowest effort possible.
The decimator is now naught but a 30k unit. So is the bloodslaughterer.

FFS.

Also decimator, you know the daemonengine known for just standing back up, can't stand back up. But it has T7 and 7 wounds at WS 5 and 4/5 attacks... nooo that isn't just a more dangerous contemptor, NoPe. Not at all.

Tbf doesn't it have IWND for the regen side of it?

Heresy Thursday – Form the Tip of a Beautiful Spear With the Sons of Horus Weapon Upgrades

I hope we will be seeing that left handed Umbra Bolter in some other legion specific upgrade sets as well, I need a couple of those in my lyfe

Are those some mark 3 arms sprinkled in? 🤔

Or maybe a terminator? But one of the unslung bolters looks like it’s mk 3 arm armor

beast_gts wrote:
Heresy Thursday – Form the Tip of a Beautiful Spear With the Sons of Horus Weapon Upgrades

Spoiler:

IF & SoH get all the love and the rest gets nothing. Legion specific weapon upgrades are totally asinine by the way.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Or maybe a terminator?

A couple of the hands do look terminator sized.

It wouldn’t surprise me, since other upgrades typically allow for one terminator to get blinged out


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 Strg Alt wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Heresy Thursday – Form the Tip of a Beautiful Spear With the Sons of Horus Weapon Upgrades

Spoiler:

IF & SoH get all the love and the rest gets nothing. Legion specific weapon upgrades are totally asinine by the way.

To be fair, death guard, night lords, and emperors children have melee weapon upgrades too. They just came out before the mk 6 IF/SOH fest

The bolter 2nd row, 2nd from the left defs looks like a terminator hand, as does the 2nd axe from the left.



Axes look great though. Interesting design. Really not liking the high tech elbow joints they've started giving power armour. Does not fit with the established look of any of the Mks.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Are those some mark 3 arms sprinkled in? 🤔

Or maybe a terminator? But one of the unslung bolters looks like it’s mk 3 arm armor

Yeah, the right underslung bolter is definitely new MkIII armour (compare to the artwork revealed at Warhammerfest: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/04/30/plastic-space-marine-assault-squad-prepares-for-launch-in-the-horus-heresy/). The umbra pattern bolters as well.

The larger hands are Terminator-size.

I wonder if the double-sized axe fits the plastic axe-wielding Praetor from the Age of Darkness box.

I take it this means the upcoming MKIII resculpts will be compatible with the existing plastic weapon upgrades

 Strg Alt wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Heresy Thursday – Form the Tip of a Beautiful Spear With the Sons of Horus Weapon Upgrades

Spoiler:

IF & SoH get all the love and the rest gets nothing. Legion specific weapon upgrades are totally asinine by the way.

Ya it just seems way too specific given the total focus on soh/fists.

Mk3 knuckle rivets confirm that existing plastic heavy/special upgrade sprues aren't compatible with upcoming mk3.

Removed - none of this nonsense please.

What are you talking about?

We’ve seen this upgrade pack, therefore no other Legion is going to get similar?

Imagine moaning about a legion getting an upgrade kit... Get a grip

And a really cool looking upgrade kit I might add

It’s not like GW wasn’t releasing upgrade kits for 40k marines for years, while neglecting other chapters. Weird hill to make a stand on, even if it’s annoying that other legions may not get cool bits

How dare GW make a Sons of Horus upgrade kit like Emperor's Children, Death Guard and Night Lords have for HH or like the Space Wolves, Ultramarines, Raven Guard, Salamanders, Imperial Fists, Iron Hands, Dark Angels and Blood Angels plastic upgrades for 40k all of which can be used for Heresy kits.
Utterly disgraceful.

Ultimately, I think the bolters and axes are fine. The coins are somewhat SoH, but I don't think there's too much on this upgrade accessory that couldn't be used on another legion if someone really wanted to.

Banestrike bolters are kinda misnomer, as it the Banestrike round that delivers the punch of them. If my lore is correct. So clipping/trimming the Eye of Horus (or not, for those real Horus fans) could be done quite easily if someone wanted some variation. Me, I've pretty much have my fill of bolters. I just stuck chain bayonets on my Justaerin and Veterans (who also have chainswords) to indicate Banestrike bolters.

As for the Carsoran power axes, I like the updated look to the ball mace with an axe coming out it of the old ones. But I think they could pass for regular power axes if someone wanted to use them. I don't know why, since power axes are horrible.

I do want to nitpick on the axes, though. I think they'd fit SoH a little better if they had a spike at the end of the handle (pommel). When I think SoH aesthetics, I think spikes, coins, eyes and the occasional skull. Leaving an area that could have a spike (and would be no trouble at all to remove if unwanted) empty seems like a shame. I also wonder if the axe would look a little more brutal if the cable was lowered a tad to fit another spike or smaller blade on the butt (poll).

I think the bigger issue for me, is the price isn't going to be there. I really only want the axes. Even then, they are too much of a mixed bag. I'm leaning on just converting CSM/Legionary power axes instead now.

The bulkier arm holding the bolter gave me the impression of artificer armor/praetor armor.

Looks good. But it would be even better if they were combined with the SoH heads and shoulder pads in a BT style plastic upgrade sprue.

Hope EC get another one with some rapiers in it.

6 banestrike... 4 axes. 1 of which is for terminators...

Soooo veteran squad atleast requires 3 boxes for melee or 2 boxes for banestrikes....

Would it have killed gw to go 5/5 ? Especially for that price??

Not Online!!! wrote:
6 banestrike... 4 axes. 1 of which is for terminators...

Soooo veteran squad atleast requires 3 boxes for melee or 2 boxes for banestrikes....

Would it have killed gw to go 5/5 ? Especially for that price??

And one of the banestrike bolters is for terminators, too! Terminators can't even TAKE banestrike bolters! Great kit.

Can't you give a Banestrike Bolter to a character who could be wearing Terminator armor?

No, characters in terminator armor have Combi-bolters, which can be traded for Banestrike Combi-bolters.

They can not be armed with Banestrike Bolters.