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 Marshal Loss wrote:
Guessing they don't do two 30k weeks in a row so probably 7 October preorder earliest for Fulgrim. So much for the "sooner than you think" "shortly" and "very soon" for the spate of 30k previews over the past few weeks!

Fulgrim is 30k FW, so seperate from the plastic kit releases. Hopefully he comes out soon alongside the mk III champ.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Guessing they don't do two 30k weeks in a row so probably 7 October preorder earliest for Fulgrim. So much for the "sooner than you think" "shortly" and "very soon" for the spate of 30k previews over the past few weeks!

Fulgrim is 30k FW, so seperate from the plastic kit releases. Hopefully he comes out soon alongside the mk III champ.

Possible but unlikely. AFAIK every FW full-resin preview has also taken up one of our ‘slots’ as opposed to being treated as it’s own thing, which is a little disappointing but absolutely makes sense.

Building the Cerastus Knights Acheron and Castigator Including Awesome Flexible Ammo Feed



Individual links for the Ammo Feeds - that's going to be fun...

Those two sprues of ammo feed could have been an assault squad.

Gonna be fun when you accidentally bump it and the paint crumbles.

You'd need to fix the links hard in place with loads of plastic glue once you'd got it hooked up or yeah, that would happen. Bit of an iffy design

A pox. An honest to god pox on which ever galaxy brain melon-fether thought that was a perfectly acceptable design choice. I'm all for kit modularity and poseability, but how many people are honestly going to utilize this to it's full advantage? An underwhelming minority is who. The people who do will be the people who already have the skill and patience to convert and customise anyway.



I also like the fact that they bang on about flexible the kit is and then only show the arm is it's "standard" slightly extended out pose. Why to really sell the kit ya boneheads.

Honestly this plastic design is infinitely better than the resin one, especially as these massive plastic kits will be picked up more by hobbists with less overall experience than people who bought the resin knights.

 Snrub wrote:
A pox. An honest to god pox on which ever galaxy brain melon-fether thought that was a perfectly acceptable design choice. I'm all for kit modularity and poseability, but how many people are honestly going to utilize this to it's full advantage? An underwhelming minority is who. The people who do will be the people who already have the skill and patience to convert and customise anyway.



I also like the fact that they bang on about flexible the kit is and then only show the arm is it's "standard" slightly extended out pose. Why to really sell the kit ya boneheads.

Looks like a solid design to me?

Slightest modicum of care when assembling the feed should leave it all loosey goosey. Then, once you’ve fiddled around with positioning, a little tactical glue, and you’re good to go.

Beats arsing around with near boiling water, a hair dryer and superglue only to find its now stuck to your forehead.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Those two sprues of ammo feed could have been an assault squad.

Gonna be fun when you accidentally bump it and the paint crumbles.

You mean the Assault Squad we already know is coming?

A pox on me then for looking forward to this. Leagues better than trying to bend gakky resin into place and you only need a little bit of glue to hold it all in place once you've posed the model the way you want it, just a drop of extra thin cement on each link and you're good.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Gonna be fun when you accidentally bump it and the paint crumbles.

GW models are designed to be display models first, not gaming pieces. You are not supposed to move that thing around once it is painted

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
leave it all loosey goosey.

Right well I missed the part about it being a no-glue-required deal on my initial read through. That mollifies my bewilderment some.

Beats arsing around with near boiling water, a hair dryer and superglue only to find its now stuck to your forehead.

But this is what I mean, why not just make it a pre-shaped moulded piece and be done with it? Christ, for all the space it would have saved on those sprues, they could have thrown a couple of different shapes on there to keep the everyone happy. Rather then having you dick around trying to line up little free-sitting parts that will scatter the first time some fat-fingered fool tries to assemble them. (I am aforementioned fat-fingered fool)


I dunno, clearly I'm alone in this and therefore wrong, so I guess i'll go grumble to myself over in the corner, but jeez that looks like not the best way of having done the kit.

 kodos wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Gonna be fun when you accidentally bump it and the paint crumbles.

GW models are designed to be display models first, not gaming pieces. You are not supposed to move that thing around once it is painted

That's why all play armies are grey.

Tbh this is the same Level vibe i got from the rogal "no bottom plate" Dorn and the smart person splitting the bottom plate of the spartan with its clownish build plan...

The flexible design sounds like a sensible solution to me. Beats being stuck with only one or two poses.

Of course it beats heat bending resin. But let's not pretend it's not going to be arduous. Would have preferred 2 or 3 preset whole belts.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Would have preferred 2 or 3 preset whole belts.

Thankyou. This is the point I was driving at, just said with actual words rather then my own confused gibberish.

Well, I for one applaud the approach they have taken here. The resulting model will be far better for it. Derpy looking cables with nearly impossible to remove mold lines are something I hate with a passion, this build looks a bit laborous, but at least the result can look perfect and 100% moldline free

 tauist wrote:
Well, I for one applaud the approach they have taken here. The resulting model will be far better for it. Derpy looking cables with nearly impossible to remove mold lines are something I hate with a passion, this build looks a bit laborous, but at least the result can look perfect and 100% moldline free

How do you figure? Each link will still have a mold line. Two actually. It just won't snake around and swap edges as it would on a twisty whole piece belt?

yes, but you need to paint them before you build them to look good and stay flexible

 kodos wrote:
yes, but you need to paint them before you build them to look good and stay flexible

Wait, why would you want them to stay flexible? The arm will be fixed anyway. I'm guessing the intended use is to pose the arm, assemble the belt, let it settle in a natural gravity induced droop, then add a bit of glue as deep as possible into each link so it doesn't gunk up the surface. Then paint a solid model as normal.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Well, I for one applaud the approach they have taken here. The resulting model will be far better for it. Derpy looking cables with nearly impossible to remove mold lines are something I hate with a passion, this build looks a bit laborous, but at least the result can look perfect and 100% moldline free

How do you figure? Each link will still have a mold line. Two actually. It just won't snake around and swap edges as it would on a twisty whole piece belt?

Removing mold lines from rectangular pieces is trivial and you can achieve a 100% clean result without scarring the details.. on ribbed single piece cabling, notsomuch..

That's an awesome design and such a good idea. Bodes well for plastic mechanicum down the line too with the mauler bolt cannon feeds 😍

beast_gts wrote:Building the Cerastus Knights Acheron and Castigator Including Awesome Flexible Ammo Feed

Spoiler:

Individual links for the Ammo Feeds - that's going to be fun...

If you're playing Traitors, just leave them off and say that the ammo comes from warp sorcery.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 kodos wrote:
yes, but you need to paint them before you build them to look good and stay flexible

Wait, why would you want them to stay flexible? The arm will be fixed anyway. I'm guessing the intended use is to pose the arm, assemble the belt, let it settle in a natural gravity induced droop, then add a bit of glue as deep as possible into each link so it doesn't gunk up the surface. Then paint a solid model as normal.

you can do it that way, but it won't look good any more as you are going to see the glue (and with not enough glue so you don't see it, it won't stay fixed anyway)

point is, for those links to look good painted, it is a lot of work, and I don't think it is less work than removing mould lines on on part belts (as you still have to remove them here as well)

but as I said, display model level of work, not a gaming piece

"HH is unplayable because everything is expensive FW resin."
*GW makes plastic Cerastus"
"Oh my god, I can't believe this specific design choice was made. This kit is completely awful and unusable."

Folks, you just can't win with these people.

beast_gts wrote:
Building the Cerastus Knights Acheron and Castigator Including Awesome Flexible Ammo Feed

Spoiler:

Individual links for the Ammo Feeds - that's going to be fun...

It's not gluing the model together that's the issue. It'll be moldline scraping for every. tiny. fething. part.
Ugh I'm going to skip getting this model. The thought of trying to hold all those tiny pieces in my sausage fingers and scraping them is making me angry already.

With the crazy prices GW is asking for their models, everything might as well be treated as a display puece IMHO

It is curious that GW have the capacity to dedicate multiple entire sprues to ammo feeds, but putting an extra sprue in the Chaos Terminators kit so that you can have a whole units-worth of weapon? Pft! Impossible!

some people like to buy display models and put them on the shelf
others like to play games and buy gaming pieces

don't see a problem here if those that want to play the game say that they don't like display models to work with

not everyone is a model builder and the more complicated and time consuming model building is, the less excited those people will be

 kodos wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 kodos wrote:
yes, but you need to paint them before you build them to look good and stay flexible

Wait, why would you want them to stay flexible? The arm will be fixed anyway. I'm guessing the intended use is to pose the arm, assemble the belt, let it settle in a natural gravity induced droop, then add a bit of glue as deep as possible into each link so it doesn't gunk up the surface. Then paint a solid model as normal.

you can do it that way, but it won't look good any more as you are going to see the glue (and with not enough glue so you don't see it, it won't stay fixed anyway)

point is, for those links to look good painted, it is a lot of work, and I don't think it is less work than removing mould lines on on part belts (as you still have to remove them here as well)

but as I said, display model level of work, not a gaming piece

You won’t see any glue? Glue each link together, leaving it flexible. Pose and glue each end in, and then run some plastic glue into each link.

It's not resin?