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When a 2 week preorder means you have a 2 week window to order GW direct but a FLGS needs to guess how many they will sell and order their entire stock within 60 seconds of the trade listing going up (Monday morning after Sunday next week preview) or all they can do during the 2 week preorder is tell customers sorry, we can't get any more in... yea that's screwing FLGS.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
They still get same amount of kits to sell as they would in 1week. Nor does gw direct get customers kit sooner(as they send orders when stuff is on stores. If they can. Gwatm can't even promise they send stuff on day ordered but can take 3 days. That's how screwed up their logistic is. 3 days to send stuff in stock...).
Gw isnjt using 2 week to cut flgs stock. 1 week, 2 week, flgs quota same.
Maybe now kits would actually be in flgs on launch day. Something that's been irritatingly rare lately.
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tneva82 wrote: . The sprues have been cast long time ago.
Years and years people have been taught what leadtimes mean yet still people who haven't learnt it...
Would be unbelievable except never underestimate how little lessons are learned is humanity's motto.
The typical lead time on production prior to preorder is 6 weeks. GW doesn't typically produce stuff and hold it in theor warehouse for an extended period. They are basically printing it, shipping it, and selling it within a 2 month timeframe max and have been trying to shorten that even further.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
Apologies in advance if this is off-topic, but just noticed that /30K on reddit has been absolutely gutted! Vast majority of its users have seem to have left.. did this happen during the great mod purge caused by the change in reddits 3rd party app support?
If so, it's a pity.. I always saw some inspiring conversions and bashes over there
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
chaos0xomega wrote: Most of the community is in r/warhammer30k and r/HorusHeresy, I don't know that r/30k was every anything more than small.
You're right, my bad! bing has changed something and my former autopilot way of navigating to the sub stopped working, so erroneously went to the wrong sub
apologies, back to news & rumours everyone...
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
So, Plastic Deredeos and MKIII tacticals should start hitting the shelves of LGS's around the world starting tomorrow?
One Deredeo kit has my name on it somewhere..
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
That plastic Angron look derpy af compared to this new resin bloke tho
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
Fulgrims base in that comparison looks thicker than Angrons. That would generally imply that Fulgrims base is being overscaled, etc. If it says he comes on a 100mm base, but visually it looks like it would be more of an 80mm putting those two images side-by-side.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
The 20% markup is the logistics cost of getting the product half-way around the world to their formal penal colony
In seriousness though, Australia has indirectly benefited from its proximity to China. While most producers don't give Australians a price *cut*, many products are comparably priced to the cost of the same goods in other markets because the worlds factory is a stones throw away. GW is one of those rare instances of a company that manufactures its already expensive products in a location that couldn't possibly be any farther away than it already is. Thats why GWs prices are so absurd in Australia, especially by comparison to any of the competitors out there producing their minis in China or the Southeast Asia region.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
chaos0xomega wrote: The 20% markup is the logistics cost of getting the product half-way around the world to their formal penal colony
If that were true, we wouldn't also have to pay for shipping.
chaos0xomega wrote: In seriousness though, Australia has indirectly benefited from its proximity to China. While most producers don't give Australians a price *cut*, many products are comparably priced to the cost of the same goods in other markets because the worlds factory is a stones throw away. GW is one of those rare instances of a company that manufactures its already expensive products in a location that couldn't possibly be any farther away than it already is. Thats why GWs prices are so absurd in Australia, especially by comparison to any of the competitors out there producing their minis in China or the Southeast Asia region.
But that explanation doesn't work with Forge World.
With Forge World we both order the same item. It comes out of the same mould, is packed by the same person, and is posted out to both of us. I pay international shipping rates, and also +20%-40% because... because... ??? This isn't a product that's being shipped in bulk to a local GW warehouse where it is parcelled out to GW stores and stockists. There's no freight or storage costs, or product import duties or anything like that that would add to the cost.
It's the same product, coming from the same place, attracting a different cost, and not because of shipping, because that's extra. So... why is it more?
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Ah yeah, forgeworld is a different beast, but might just be a case of GW having a standardized pricing policy that fails to account for the differences in those dynamics. To some extent it seems likely to be by design, otherwise it would create a weird situation wherein it might be cheaper for you to buy forgeworld kits than it would be to buy proper GW kits which would maybe complicate the dynamics of their business operations in the Aus/NZ market. Also, if they can charge you extortionate prices for their bulk goods, then they also know they can charge you extortionate prices for their boutique goods.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
chaos0xomega wrote: The 20% markup is the logistics cost of getting the product half-way around the world to their formal penal colony
If that were true, we wouldn't also have to pay for shipping.
chaos0xomega wrote: In seriousness though, Australia has indirectly benefited from its proximity to China. While most producers don't give Australians a price *cut*, many products are comparably priced to the cost of the same goods in other markets because the worlds factory is a stones throw away. GW is one of those rare instances of a company that manufactures its already expensive products in a location that couldn't possibly be any farther away than it already is. Thats why GWs prices are so absurd in Australia, especially by comparison to any of the competitors out there producing their minis in China or the Southeast Asia region.
But that explanation doesn't work with Forge World.
With Forge World we both order the same item. It comes out of the same mould, is packed by the same person, and is posted out to both of us. I pay international shipping rates, and also +20%-40% because... because... ??? This isn't a product that's being shipped in bulk to a local GW warehouse where it is parcelled out to GW stores and stockists. There's no freight or storage costs, or product import duties or anything like that that would add to the cost.
It's the same product, coming from the same place, attracting a different cost, and not because of shipping, because that's extra. So... why is it more?
Image, I assume.
It's probably a side effect of GW's use of imaginary exchange rates for their core product. Before the switch to local currency, you'd pay in pounds and use the normal exchange rate. One unprecedented democratic act later that produced an undesired discrepancy between regular GW items and Forge World items that made the latter look like a bargain compared to the former that were locked in tight in the imaginary exchange rates that benefit GW's bottom line. Forge World as the premium collectible brand being cheaper than the core stuff makes GW look bad, so they implement their imaginary exchange rates for Forge World product as well to get back to making it look suitably premium over the core stuff.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
Holy fething gak 215 euros. I thought Horus was expensive, but this is new level, given Kabandha is 285 and that's after at least x1 price increase since it has been released. I wonder, how large he actually is.
Ok, he's actually like Angron, but still.
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Andy over at Mediocre Hobbies has done a good video on Fulgrim complete with him next to various resin and plastic Primarchs in the final portion. He is even brave enough to flex the wings at one point.
He does say that construction was a bit of a nightmare with many gaps in the body.
On the Battle Group boxed set? I lay my mitts on a spare copy if anyone is desperate.
Put it up on the Loot Group and had no nibbles. But standard Loot rules apply to my offer, that you pay no more than it costs for me to grab it and post it. FLGS price is £101.95. And yes I’ll happily post overseas!
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