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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/27 12:30:26
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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I reckon we'll see first wave kits for
-Command Section (5 Man)
-Rifle Section (20 Man)
-Veletaris Storm upgrade kit (20 Volkite Chargers/Storm Axes)
-Veletaris Vanguard upgrade kit (20 Rotor Cannons/Heavy Flamers)
-Dracosan or Aurox
-Leman Russ Strike
And second wave kits for
-Ogryns
-Medicae
-Dracosan or Aurox (whatever didn't get released 1st wave)
-Rapiers
-Leman Russ Assault
Beyond that, who knows.
Of course the above is a speculative release wave governed by some sort of logic, so therefore GW will probably not do anything close to that and instead we'll get something entirely scattershot spread out over the better part of 2 years.
Or they'll pull a swifty and blindside us with mechanicum....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/27 13:14:01
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I doubt we'll see the Veletaris as an upgrade kit, as they are a bit more bulky and armoured than their regular Auxilia counterparts.
But fingers crossed that this is happening soon, I did snatch the last set of resin flamers from the webstore a bit ago hehe, they were immediately listed as sold out after I had placed my order.
Hopefully a command squad will also include a Legate commander, an absolute must-have for Auxilia armies.
And hell yes if a plastic Dracosan is happening, this would mean plastic Malcadors next.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/27 13:23:01
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ah the Veletaris are a bit bulkier aren't they. I'd never noticed it. Well then maybe that means we'd get a volkite Veletaris squad with options for axes and then an upgrade kit for the other weapons. The flamers have a fuel tank mounted on their backpack so a rotorcannon w/ammo backpack would make sense and would help bulk out the sprues a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/27 13:51:01
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Heavy void armour versus regular void armour IIRC?
I'd love to see rotor cannon Veletaris finally happen, just for the sake of rule of cool if nothing else ha!
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/27 13:53:46
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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Units properly sold out would be Lasrifle Section Veletaris Storm Section Tactical Command Basilisk Malcador Annihilator So I guess that's the launch box, unless there's also units that never had a resin model.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/27 14:12:17
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Well thats the rumor, a "Command Sentinel" which might be the Heavy Sentinel from Legions Imperialis, or might be something else entirely.
The Tactical Command box is a bit tricky though. They have a lot of different weapon and wargear options depending on whether they are an HQ command, a veletaris command, or a line command. Frankly, I don't think there can be a single command box, especially if we are in agreement that the Veletaris have different armor - that alone would necessitate a separate veletaris command box that is different from the command for lasrifle sections. As the HQ command is technically 6-11 models (it includes a Captain/Marshal), I expect what you will actually see is:
Lasrifle Section (20 man)
Veletaris Section (I assume 10 man box w/all weapon options present, otherwise you may see 2 boxes one for Storm one for Vanguard, or one kit and an upgrade sprue)
5-man Veletaris Command
5-man Line Command
11-man Tactical Command
I'm tempted to say there would be a 10-man Companion squad box as well, but I think these end up being an upgrade sprue used with one of the other boxes as the main difference is just weapon options available.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/27 14:22:24
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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chaos0xomega wrote:Well thats the rumor, a "Command Sentinel" which might be the Heavy Sentinel from Legions Imperialis, or might be something else entirely.
The Tactical Command box is a bit tricky though. They have a lot of different weapon and wargear options depending on whether they are an HQ command, a veletaris command, or a line command. Frankly, I don't think there can be a single command box, especially if we are in agreement that the Veletaris have different armor - that alone would necessitate a separate veletaris command box that is different from the command for lasrifle sections. As the HQ command is technically 6-11 models (it includes a Captain/Marshal), I expect what you will actually see is:
Lasrifle Section (20 man)
Veletaris Section (I assume 10 man box w/all weapon options present, otherwise you may see 2 boxes one for Storm one for Vanguard, or one kit and an upgrade sprue)
5-man Veletaris Command
5-man Line Command
11-man Tactical Command
I'm tempted to say there would be a 10-man Companion squad box as well, but I think these end up being an upgrade sprue used with one of the other boxes as the main difference is just weapon options available.
Just because they have a bunch of options in the rules doesn't mean the kit will have all of them. I expect one command kit thats the exact same as the current resin one just in plastic, maybe with some weapon options for the bodyguards. Would also equal the Legions Imperialis command base.
Everything else you will have to kitbash or they might make some more resin kits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/27 14:50:27
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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For the most part, the plastic kits that GW has released for Astartes thus far are pretty comprehensive of most if not all of the options available to a given unit (even if they do end up splitting them across multiple kits/upgrade frames, etc.) barring anything which might be legion specific. I see no reason to assume why they would treat SA any differently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/27 14:54:31
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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Yes that sounds a bit optimistic to me. How about a 2x3" command sprue thrown in each box instead.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:01:38
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Heresy24 article.
Herald/Command Squad, Solar Aux and some sort of funky light sentinal mobile gun platform type thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:05:31
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Dakka Veteran
Vihti, Finland
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OMG, that mini-sentinel is just awesome!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:05:39
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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The Sentinel looks like it's a throwback to the classic walking egg from back in the day.
But yay, plastic Auxilia incoming at least, hopefully they don't go too GW with it and stick unnecessary guns and gak everywhere.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:07:08
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Gimme!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:10:26
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Wow, that Sentinel looks bloody awesome!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:12:43
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Looks like it's meant to be a riff on the "fire support" Sentinel concept.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:20:28
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ooo Automatically Appended Next Post: Am I wrong in thinking the banner bearer is in mk 3 armor?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:22:21
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ok, I may be sold on adding Solar Auxila now thanks to Tweety there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:23:31
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Regular Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:24:33
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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I hope that doesn't count as our Heresy Thursday preview >.>
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:25:53
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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I just assumed the Banner man was MkVI at first, but on a 2nd viewing it looks as if it might be MkIII. Which means that it is either a herald, or the incoming command squad (if there is indeed one coming) isn't the same as the Legion Imperialis version. Ninja'd by GaroRobe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:30:08
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Or the command squad is a big sprue with a bunch of banners and upgrades, thrown in with a mk 6 and a mk 3 sprue to make a 10 man box
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:31:08
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Terrifying Doombull
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It probably does.
The silhouette advertising does nothing for me, but it fits with a lot of the other 'year in review' plus gakky teasers this week. The 'Xmas Angels' are the exception.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:39:51
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Voss wrote:
It probably does.
The silhouette advertising does nothing for me, but it fits with a lot of the other 'year in review' plus gakky teasers this week. The 'Xmas Angels' are the exception.
Those probably counted as the new model monday stuff
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:42:15
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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honestly ive been finding the 2024 previews kinda gak. They show silhouettes of 3 minis and then spend the other 80% of the video showing off minis that have released over the prior year.
Not much of a preview.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 14:45:27
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Regular Dakkanaut
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This preview is so tame its been domesticated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 15:19:45
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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Not quite sure why people are losing their minds over the third new sentinel within the last year when they could be losing their minds over the Command squad being Mk3. Automatically Appended Next Post: It's all in your head
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 15:40:46
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Posts with Authority
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At this point in time I'm betting the Command Squad kit will be an upgrade sprue or two. Add in the armour mark tac sprue of your choice and you've got a command squad.
Given how every tac kit shares those identical poses between marks, sounds like the best course of action for GW
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 15:52:41
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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lord_blackfang wrote:Not quite sure why people are losing their minds over the third new sentinel within the last year when they could be losing their minds over the Command squad being Mk3.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
It's all in your head

That's a pretty damn funny response.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 15:54:40
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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This is gonna be big for the game I reckon.
Solar Auxilia have looked incredibly cool since they came out. But being all-resin they were of course horrendously expensive.
Now though? Better material, better price, wider appeal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/28 16:07:48
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Posts with Authority
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:This is gonna be big for the game I reckon.
Solar Auxilia have looked incredibly cool since they came out. But being all-resin they were of course horrendously expensive.
Now though? Better material, better price, wider appeal.
plus, besides SA infantry looking dope, those SA vehicles will be a godsend for many 40K guard players who prefer more "gothic" looking tanks. DKoK, Vostroyans, and so on..
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" |
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