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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 17:00:58
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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chaos0xomega wrote:Did SA really need *another* heavy support choice though?
Also, is it me or does the Mechanized subtype seem... unnecessarily punishing?
Does it?
It just looks like the dreadnought rules to me. Resistance to poison / fleshbane, vulnerability to haywire, explodes on death (sometimes), and can unload all of its dakka at all times while being free to follow up charge.
It might be a little light on the damage front, but in return its going to take an inordinate amount of fire power to shift. A unit of 3 outfitted with lances and HK's they're going to be superb vehicle hunters and pose a serious threat to any terminators / 2w astartes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 22:21:46
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not Online!!! wrote:
the only the normal contemptor has over this is the brutal melee weapon and T 7.
Improved WS/ BS and an Inv save?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 22:31:17
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Yeah I don't see it. A 7" move with no ability to run is going to have a hard time going terminator hunting, esp w an 18" gun, and with bs3 and one shot a piece aren't likely to inflict serious harm to enemy targets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/27 22:33:19
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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2 vs 1 relativizes BS and invul. And ws is only relevant if you want into melee which the sentinels don't.
But that is an imo case. Though i find it sad that i'd consider these above 80% of the Rest of the list that SA has.. Automatically Appended Next Post: chaos0xomega wrote:Yeah I don't see it. A 7" move with no ability to run is going to have a hard time going terminator hunting, esp w an 18" gun, and with bs3 and one shot a piece aren't likely to inflict serious harm to enemy targets.
And 4 Hunter killers/ sentinel.
But indeed against terminators, especially cataphractii they won't do to much.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/28 03:15:39
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Aethon will make for good backfield hunters I'm betting.
A squad of 3 with Autocannons or Culverins and have 1 swap out the missile launcher for some hunter-killers. It's versatile, reasonably hardy and is something I don't think people would necessarily expect from them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/28 06:08:39
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Speed Drybrushing
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chaos0xomega wrote:Thats another weird thing - the complete absence of the malcador defender from the 31st millennium.
Also missing the Infernus and the Valdor, so we might get another kit with those options
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/28 06:28:13
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Rolsheen wrote:chaos0xomega wrote:Thats another weird thing - the complete absence of the malcador defender from the 31st millennium.
Also missing the Infernus and the Valdor, so we might get another kit with those options
With the Infernus making it into LI, I'll be quite surprised if it doesn't get a plastic kit at some point.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/28 06:45:19
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Dysartes wrote: Rolsheen wrote:chaos0xomega wrote:Thats another weird thing - the complete absence of the malcador defender from the 31st millennium.
Also missing the Infernus and the Valdor, so we might get another kit with those options
With the Infernus making it into LI, I'll be quite surprised if it doesn't get a plastic kit at some point.
Maybe. The sicaran and venator made it into plastic, but the other variants haven't yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/28 07:45:28
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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chaos0xomega wrote:Hype-building fluff-piece.
Does anyone else find it odd that Malcadors don't have access to volkite weapon options? They're supposedly older tanks built during age of strife, from before bolters came into vogue and when volkite was the predominant weapon technology prior to its eventual phase-out. Yet it has relatively "mundane" weapon options, including bolters. Then you have the leman russ incinerator which does have a volkite weapon, despite being the newer tank...
They certainly should be capable of being fitted with volkite weapons.
The artwork emphasises how utterly rubbish Malcadors would be if realism was a thing with armour designs in this game. The sort of vehicle that would be found burnt-out and abandoned on the side of the road. But it's going to be perfect for my Militia
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Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Terry Pratchett RIP |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/02/28 18:24:57
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (SA artillery pg 232)
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Snord wrote:chaos0xomega wrote:Hype-building fluff-piece.
Does anyone else find it odd that Malcadors don't have access to volkite weapon options? They're supposedly older tanks built during age of strife, from before bolters came into vogue and when volkite was the predominant weapon technology prior to its eventual phase-out. Yet it has relatively "mundane" weapon options, including bolters. Then you have the leman russ incinerator which does have a volkite weapon, despite being the newer tank...
They certainly should be capable of being fitted with volkite weapons.
The artwork emphasises how utterly rubbish Malcadors would be if realism was a thing with armour designs in this game. The sort of vehicle that would be found burnt-out and abandoned on the side of the road. But it's going to be perfect for my Militia
surprising that FW arent already selling an upgrade kit a la "terminus ultra".
Also funny that the bolter and autocannon variant represents the latest, most cutting edge upgraded version - specifically tailored to meet the needs of the great crusade
Makes me think of the quote the Tank Museum presenters use: "the best tank in the world is the one which is available to you when you need it."
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-px27tzAtVwZpZ4ljopV2w "ashtrays and teacups do not count as cover"
"jack of all trades, master of none; certainly better than a master of one"
The Ordo Reductor - the guy's who make wonderful things like the Landraider Achillies, but can't use them in battle.. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/01 10:01:40
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/01 10:25:31
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Foxy Wildborne
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Finally, some support for Sons of Horus!
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/01 10:48:25
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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That is a superbly stabby sword!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/01 11:26:22
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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He's Blood Axes, though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/01 12:58:42
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Another model I like. Shame they are resin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/01 14:48:09
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Yeah, those Raven Guard, Iron Warriors, Salamanders and Iron Hands hogging all the attention!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/01 15:30:34
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Dominating Dominatrix
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/01 22:36:38
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Not sure if already posted, but decals!
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 01:32:50
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sprue pics: Aethon heavy sentinel: Leman Russ: Dracosan: Accessory sprue: An interesting bit: The Leman Russ front weapons are all on a seperate sprue which makes it likely this is the "sponson" sprue for SA, so will also be used for the Malcador and maybe the Stormhammer if they give it more front weapon options
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 01:48:35
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Cor, lumme! Pintel mounted weapons where the Pintel and gun are a single cast. Heavy Stubber looks a wee bit fragile, but the other two look nice and solid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 02:01:24
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Probably 2 sets of the sponson sprue for the baneblade, and 3 for the stormhammer. And a set for the carnodon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 06:56:34
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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I'm desperate to start converting these new tanks. Time to dig through my bits tubs and get brainstorming.
I love that they've broken down the kits into multiple sections rather than the larger single piece segments of previous kits, much easier for a ̶m̶o̶d̶e̶l̶l̶e̶r̶ bodger like myself.
Good job GW
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 09:01:08
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Foxy Wildborne
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nedsta wrote:I'm desperate to start converting these new tanks. Time to dig through my bits tubs and get brainstorming. I love that they've broken down the kits into multiple sections rather than the larger single piece segments of previous kits, much easier for a ̶m̶o̶d̶e̶l̶l̶e̶r̶ bodger like myself. Good job GW All the heresy tanks are like this, so that some sprues can pull double duty across multiple kits. It's not all that great as it leaves you with seams going down the middle of large exposed surfaces. Tho thanks to the trim odds are good it will be much less obvious on Auxilia than it is on Land Raiders.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 09:36:48
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Here’s a fun one: it looks like the trunnion for the twin lascannon/twin autocannon turret option is reversible. That is, it has the square holes for the lascannon and the round ones for the autocannon on opposite sides of the same piece.
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"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 09:42:47
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Foxy Wildborne
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Mr_Rose wrote:Here’s a fun one: it looks like the trunnion for the twin lascannon/twin autocannon turret option is reversible. That is, it has the square holes for the lascannon and the round ones for the autocannon on opposite sides of the same piece.
Well, that's assuming they're two halves, they could be two trunnions.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 10:57:39
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 11:17:32
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Foxy Wildborne
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What a lovely kit!
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 11:46:16
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Managed to get one through GW, where they limited it to one per customer and another one through my discounter, happy days, can't wait to build one of those Russ tanks.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 16:10:26
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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If you’re in South East Kent and missed out? Upgrade Gaming in Dover has one ready for release day.
Give Matt a ring, and he’ll likely be happy to sort that for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/03/02 16:30:52
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours (Aethon rules pg 236)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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lurch wrote:https://www.chaosbunker. de/en/2024/03/02/review-horus-heresy-solar-auxilia-leman-russ-strike-tank/
Hull weapon design is SO terrible. If the designer made the peg they are all on slightly longer, the hull mount would be lovely, trivial to swap push fit solution changing them all in seconds. Alas, that tiny peg is bad both for this and magnetizing. Bravo GW
Mr_Rose wrote:Here’s a fun one: it looks like the trunnion for the twin lascannon/twin autocannon turret option is reversible. That is, it has the square holes for the lascannon and the round ones for the autocannon on opposite sides of the same piece.
These, too, could simply both be square and push fit for wonderful functionality (and you'd save plastic for second mount bit, seriously, these are both identical, why autocannon one needs cables going into them I have no idea).
Or do even better, and put a pin in a side sensor thing, second into reflector on the other side, and have the pins hold main gun in place - presto, simple quick swap of these too, alas, it would be too nice for your customers...
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