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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 13:05:47
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Mechanicum are coming in hot!
The murder-bots are all fantastic, with the Thallax being standout. I also like that the Thanatar's plasma mortar doesn't appear to have lost any of the excellent little details in the shift to plastic.
The tech-thralls are easily the weakest of the Mechanicum plastics. Those gimpy legged poses are just not doing it for me. Just because they're "indefatigable cyber-puppets" doesn't mean they have to be shambling. Shambling is not at all combat efficient.
The Arch-magos is also not my favourite. For as much as I dislike how busy some of the 40k Ad-mech minis are, this is just sort of.... dull. Where's all his crazy technogeegaws? The mechanical crab legs hidden under robes thing is getting a bit boring by now. Can't he just have 2 normal legs? 3 would also be acceptable.
Be interesting to see what options he comes with though. It could end up being a great source of bitz.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 14:45:40
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Foxy Wildborne
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Problem with the Arch-magos is that it's a monobuild kit for an HQ that has 25 wargear options.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 15:21:29
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Do we know it's a monobuild kit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 15:26:23
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Boot lacing servitors.
Who in turn have their own servitors who put their shirts on since their fingers are replaced with boot lacing spindles.
It's servitors all the way down. Automatically Appended Next Post: KidCthulhu wrote:Part of me wants to use some of these new models for the 2nd Ed 40K Adeptus Mechanicus list in the Codex Imperialis.
These guys would be perfect for servitor squads with lasguns
Then use Skitarii as Techpriest squads with lasguns & special weapons. Maybe have Kataphrons as Tarantula or Rapier proxies.
I'd be able to play the army I always wanted back in '95
I know right!
Though I'd personally lop off the laser tip and call them shotguns, the knockback effect was a great way to immobilize far more powerful foes.
Gotta say Mechanicus is really tempting me. Shame about the 5 year backlog of projects...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 16:28:36
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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lord_blackfang wrote:Problem with the Arch-magos is that it's a monobuild kit for an HQ that has 25 wargear options.
If only you could kitbash or use any other techpriest model. But we all know that's just not allowed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 16:32:51
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Snrub wrote:
The tech-thralls are easily the weakest of the Mechanicum plastics. Those gimpy legged poses are just not doing it for me. Just because they're "indefatigable cyber-puppets" doesn't mean they have to be shambling. Shambling is not at all combat efficient.
Well, they aren't combat efficient. They're not only the dregs in Mechanicum forces but also in the rules. WS/ BS 2, can't run, no reactions or sweeping advance, FNP 5+... they're the zombies in 30k and the Tech-priests the Necromancers.
I have 30+ of the old ones, so it's gonna be a good mix. I like both, the resin and plastic models and I will get more even if they mostly suck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 16:39:16
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Dryaktylus wrote: Snrub wrote:
The tech-thralls are easily the weakest of the Mechanicum plastics. Those gimpy legged poses are just not doing it for me. Just because they're "indefatigable cyber-puppets" doesn't mean they have to be shambling. Shambling is not at all combat efficient.
Well, they aren't combat efficient. They're not only the dregs in Mechanicum forces but also in the rules. WS/ BS 2, can't run, no reactions or sweeping advance, FNP 5+... they're the zombies in 40k and the Tech-priests the Necromancers.
I have 30+ of the old ones, so it's gonna be a good mix. I like both, the resin and plastic models and I will get more even if they mostly suck.
I mean, they suck at doing damage.
But when 30 models is only 105 points... They're damn good at filling space and holding objectives.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 17:51:20
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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JNAProductions wrote: Dryaktylus wrote: Snrub wrote:
The tech-thralls are easily the weakest of the Mechanicum plastics. Those gimpy legged poses are just not doing it for me. Just because they're "indefatigable cyber-puppets" doesn't mean they have to be shambling. Shambling is not at all combat efficient.
Well, they aren't combat efficient. They're not only the dregs in Mechanicum forces but also in the rules. WS/ BS 2, can't run, no reactions or sweeping advance, FNP 5+... they're the zombies in 40k and the Tech-priests the Necromancers.
I have 30+ of the old ones, so it's gonna be a good mix. I like both, the resin and plastic models and I will get more even if they mostly suck.
I mean, they suck at doing damage.
But when 30 models is only 105 points... They're damn good at filling space and holding objectives.
Also tough.
Though i think their main utility is to deny area BUUUUUT with the milita provenances you got a better deal available technically if you want to kill something on occaision. Also you get access to LoS ignoring firepower easier.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 18:22:36
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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I've got a Warhound list that has like 150 of the robozombies....Can't wait for the incoming "cheap" guys on ebay
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 20:37:28
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I don't think so, no. It's been widely assumed but it's not confirmed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 20:39:23
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You think they get to take them off?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/05/27 21:33:22
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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You think those are boots?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/09 17:03:15
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/09 17:05:48
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Still no assault weapons set though.
Probably will pick up a set of the Command Squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/09 17:12:12
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Hibou is one of the best SM minis ever made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/09 18:49:09
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Foxy Wildborne
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Yea almost makes that atrocity of Mk2.5 armour look good
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/09 22:33:06
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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Lack of melee weapons is getting absurd, though I see they're at least now acknowledging a 'delay'
Also from the article which seems to have flown under the radar:
Here at Warhammer Community, we continue on the road to the new edition of Warhammer Age of Sigmar, but with a few surprises – including a new entry in the Exemplary Battles of the Age of Darkness series.
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The Circle of Iniquity
The Fourth Seal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/09 23:46:28
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Where was the memtion of a delay?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/10 01:52:27
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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More power swords than you can shake a power sword at.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/10 03:19:02
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Fixture of Dakka
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That's generous of you. It just reinforced how much it looks terrible for me.
In a vacuum, it's an excellent model and the armour itself looks fine. But knowing it's supposed to be MkII, it just loses me.
The command upgrade kit annoys me a bit. On one hand it's an array of nice and generic parts to customise a command/veteran squad or add a touch of flair to a praetor/centurion, but a bit more variety would have been nice. Throw in a couple of power axes/mace or a power fist. Some charnabal weapons maybe. Some really grizzled looking heads. Where's all the bionic heads and arms? Given how the legs are cut up in the MkIII/ VI kits, why not have a few bionic legs parts that fit onto the regular legs?
Like, it just could have been so much better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/10 06:02:27
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Speed Drybrushing
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Not a GW apologist |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/10 20:22:31
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Foxy Wildborne
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So Command Squad is the same price bracket as LI squadrons and I was gonna say that's a lot for 5 space marines, but whilst I was typing I decided 5 totally blinged out space marines is still a much better deal than four 2" drop pods.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/11 03:01:06
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Snrub wrote:The command upgrade kit annoys me a bit. On one hand it's an array of nice and generic parts to customise a command/veteran squad or add a touch of flair to a praetor/centurion, but a bit more variety would have been nice. Throw in a couple of power axes/mace or a power fist. Some charnabal weapons maybe. Some really grizzled looking heads. Where's all the bionic heads and arms? Given how the legs are cut up in the MkIII/ VI kits, why not have a few bionic legs parts that fit onto the regular legs?
Like, it just could have been so much better.
Yes, just providing power swords is pretty uninspiring - it's not like they are hard to get hold of. More bits of bling would also have been very welcome. I guess we have to hope that somewhere down the line is a customisable Centurion kit. On the plus side, the standards are nicely done, as are the helmets.
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Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/11 14:01:58
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Unsure if we're up to date on valrak rumours but as of yesterday for HH:
Reiterates high confidence in these on his side:
- box with Mk2 and saturnine reiterated, but confirmed they're painted/themed around sallies and IW.
- a new edition is planned as a "tidy up" edition
- angron (mortal) to be the first HH plastic primarch
- plastic warhound has been made, it exists in GW hq but they can't work the finances out for it, I.e. production costs vs retail coats vs expected sales. It's apparently currently not at a price from the maths they're comfy selling it at
- FW want to be off resin in 4-5 years, he does himself point out the new characters sort of fly in the face of this though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/11 14:05:03
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Dominating Dominatrix
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So another game caught in that 3 years nonsense?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/11 14:05:48
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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A bit soon for a new edition, isn't it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/11 14:06:52
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/11 14:09:35
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/11 14:40:28
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dudeface wrote:Unsure if we're up to date on valrak rumours but as of yesterday for HH:
Reiterates high confidence in these on his side:
- box with Mk2 and saturnine reiterated, but confirmed they're painted/themed around sallies and IW.
- a new edition is planned as a "tidy up" edition
- angron (mortal) to be the first HH plastic primarch
- plastic warhound has been made, it exists in GW hq but they can't work the finances out for it, I.e. production costs vs retail coats vs expected sales. It's apparently currently not at a price from the maths they're comfy selling it at
- FW want to be off resin in 4-5 years, he does himself point out the new characters sort of fly in the face of this though
Unless I misunderstood only the MK2 box is from his trusted source, the other stuff is from another one
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/11 14:45:23
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours. Plastic Mechanicum p. 252.
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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2 years in, this would be about the right time for new edition rumours (right or wrong) to start if it's on the same release cycle. Given mechnicum will drop before next summer (which is neither a 40k nor an AoS year) then it might be a fair point to rebalance having the core of 3 factions done. Automatically Appended Next Post: Matrindur wrote:Dudeface wrote:Unsure if we're up to date on valrak rumours but as of yesterday for HH:
Reiterates high confidence in these on his side:
- box with Mk2 and saturnine reiterated, but confirmed they're painted/themed around sallies and IW.
- a new edition is planned as a "tidy up" edition
- angron (mortal) to be the first HH plastic primarch
- plastic warhound has been made, it exists in GW hq but they can't work the finances out for it, I.e. production costs vs retail coats vs expected sales. It's apparently currently not at a price from the maths they're comfy selling it at
- FW want to be off resin in 4-5 years, he does himself point out the new characters sort of fly in the face of this though
Unless I misunderstood only the MK2 box is from his trusted source, the other stuff is from another one
Possibly I had a hard time working out if he mean they were from the same place but less clear or a 2nd source.
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