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That could very well mean "Militia is Legends, but legal until the next edition / one more year / something" type deal.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
That could very well mean "Militia is Legends, but legal until the next edition / one more year / something" type deal.

or they ge their heads out of their backsides and fix up a propper list.

With this second set of weapons, am I right in thinking there's still an option for the Deredeo that's never been produced? An Atomic Pavisse, or something like that?

didn't valrak's latest statement on the heresy rumors pull back on the new edition talk somewhat? seemed like there was less certainty now than before

 Dysartes wrote:
With this second set of weapons, am I right in thinking there's still an option for the Deredeo that's never been produced? An Atomic Pavisse, or something like that?

I don't think the resin part even ever actually shipped. Lots of people use the console from a drop pod.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Arvus is an odd choice, tanks are cool, not optimal units for what the armies need tho?

Solar is in a weird spot where it probably needs plastic tanks more than Marines do. The Aurox is in more demand than the Arvus, but it's still another cheap, non-Dracosan option that people would appreciate. The Valdor is a pretty decent bit of kit and a good way of eating up a chunk of points that Solar players tend to have in excess when building an army. The Infernus is arguably the worst tank in the game right now but it was probably always coming alongside the Valdor due being so similar visually.

As cool as they look, Ogryns are garbage. The only other infantry that's missing are the rotor/heavy flamer dudes.

The rest of the 'good stuff' (Rifles, Companions, Leman Russ, Sentinels) is mostly already in plastic so long as you don't mind kitbashing the weapons on Companions.

 Snord wrote:

The Arvus looks really cool. I wish I had an army that can use it.

I don't play HH, but I was contemplating getting Arvus regardless. I love the design and I've always wanted it, but not enough to pay resin prices. I think it might be possible to give it couple of guns and use it as a Valkyrie in 40K.

 The Phazer wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
With this second set of weapons, am I right in thinking there's still an option for the Deredeo that's never been produced? An Atomic Pavisse, or something like that?

I don't think the resin part even ever actually shipped. Lots of people use the console from a drop pod.

They did, but the Pavisse was removed as an option in 2.0. This kit gives the kit every option currently available to the unit.

Lack of marine releases this year is really odd. 90% of people seem to play a legion.

I spent around 3, 4 months painting my existing Heresy Maureens. And that was a lot, done to a basic standard.

I dare say there’ll be other hobbyists quietly appreciating a hopefully temporary lull of Shiny -New syndrome

I think I'll get an Arvus simply because I like the model, and at the very least would act as a piece of scenery.

 Tamereth wrote:
Lack of marine releases this year is really odd. 90% of people seem to play a legion.

You got a Dorito Dreadnought.

I'm sure there will be another Space Marine Lieutenant right around the corner.

 The Power Cosmic wrote:
Arvus, always loved that little taxi.

Cool tank.

My least favorite dread design, though. Too anime/robotech for me.

I know, I know, it probably doesn't look anything like any mech from robotech, but my brain plugs it in there.

Destroids, my man, Destroids.

https://www.macross2.net/m3/sdfmacross/destroid-defender.htm

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 Tamereth wrote:
Lack of marine releases this year is really odd. 90% of people seem to play a legion.

You got a Dorito Dreadnought.

I'm sure there will be another Space Marine Lieutenant right around the corner.

the last new lieutenant was 18 months ago, and the last before that nearly two years ago. that certainly hasn't been the issue here

My apologies. A lame attempt at humor.

Honestly, what do the Marines from 30k need?

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
My apologies. A lame attempt at humor.

Honestly, what do the Marines from 30k need?

Off the top of my head:
HQ: Praetor/Consuls on Bike/Jetbike/Jumppack
Fast Attack- Bikes, Landspeeders, Javelins, Sabre
Troops/upgrades- Breacher squads, Destroyer Squads, Seeker Squads, Combi-Weapon sets
Other- Sicaran Arcus/Punisher variant, Rapier platforms, Xiphon
Some Legions don't even have their praetors in resin yet.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
My apologies. A lame attempt at humor.

Honestly, what do the Marines from 30k need?

Off the top of my head:
HQ: Praetor/Consuls on Bike/Jetbike/Jumppack
Fast Attack- Bikes, Landspeeders, Javelins, Sabre
Troops/upgrades- Breacher squads, Destroyer Squads, Seeker Squads, Combi-Weapon sets
Other- Sicaran Arcus/Punisher variant, Rapier platforms, Xiphon
Some Legions don't even have their praetors in resin yet.

Wow, didn't realize there was that much.

 Crimson wrote:

 Snord wrote:

The Arvus looks really cool. I wish I had an army that can use it.

I don't play HH, but I was contemplating getting Arvus regardless. I love the design and I've always wanted it, but not enough to pay resin prices. I think it might be possible to give it couple of guns and use it as a Valkyrie in 40K.

I'd play it an Arvus. Afterall it's got 40k rules.

 Tamereth wrote:
Lack of marine releases this year is really odd. 90% of people seem to play a legion.

Has been surprisingly quiet for marines - it feels like 2024 was a big 'expand the focus of the game beyond marines' phase for the setting and I'm hoping/expecting that 2025 brings more for the actual legions. It's great to see non-marine factions get added in plastic but there are a lot of core options yet to shift to plastic

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

Wow, didn't realize there was that much.

At the very least, the Marines need the following to properly round out the units available in plastic:

Breachers (this remains a major gap)
Javelin (a popular and useful fast unit)
Rapier (an iconic unit - and it can be used by the SA so really a no-brainer)
Remaining Sicaran variants (i.e. the effective ones)
And arguably a customisable Centurion kit - because they are so essential to Marine armies.

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 Tamereth wrote:
Lack of marine releases this year is really odd. 90% of people seem to play a legion.

Has been surprisingly quiet for marines - it feels like 2024 was a big 'expand the focus of the game beyond marines' phase for the setting and I'm hoping/expecting that 2025 brings more for the actual legions. It's great to see non-marine factions get added in plastic but there are a lot of core options yet to shift to plastic

If HH adapts the 3 year edition churn I guess that makes sense. Have a big push for SM at the start and the first 1-2 years of an edition as they will always be the launch box set with a slower burn afterwards with more for other factions

 Snord wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

Wow, didn't realize there was that much.

At the very least, the Marines need the following to properly round out the units available in plastic:

Breachers (this remains a major gap)
Javelin (a popular and useful fast unit)
Rapier (an iconic unit - and it can be used by the SA so really a no-brainer)
Remaining Sicaran variants (i.e. the effective ones)
And arguably a customisable Centurion kit - because they are so essential to Marine armies.

I would add snipers to this, otherwise a good shortlist

Tamereth wrote:Lack of marine releases this year is really odd. 90% of people seem to play a legion.

Possibly an attempt to make the game more diverse. But, if that's what they want, they need to look at the rules as well.

lord_blackfang wrote:

 Snord wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

Wow, didn't realize there was that much.

At the very least, the Marines need the following to properly round out the units available in plastic:

Breachers (this remains a major gap)
Javelin (a popular and useful fast unit)
Rapier (an iconic unit - and it can be used by the SA so really a no-brainer)
Remaining Sicaran variants (i.e. the effective ones)
And arguably a customisable Centurion kit - because they are so essential to Marine armies.

I would add snipers to this, otherwise a good shortlist

And Apothecaries. Seriously. It's just a single arm modification. Nartheciums. Add one to anything, and you've got an Apothecary. But, apparently, gw is fine with letting 3rd parties do that for them.

 Snord wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

Wow, didn't realize there was that much.

At the very least, the Marines need the following to properly round out the units available in plastic:

Breachers (this remains a major gap)
Javelin (a popular and useful fast unit)
Rapier (an iconic unit - and it can be used by the SA so really a no-brainer)
Remaining Sicaran variants (i.e. the effective ones)
And arguably a customisable Centurion kit - because they are so essential to Marine armies.

Not as necessary but Super Heavies would also be very much appreciated.
Fellblade and Glaive can share most of the sprues so also not as big of a sprue investment as it sounds at first

The only one I'm really missing is the Land Speeder Proteus in plastic. Wish it releases some time next year. Oh, and MKV in the modern scale please (like the resin Apotechary). After that I have all the kits I'll need to complete my army, which I will finish during my pensioner years at the latest..

heresy is, ultimately, the space marine game, first and foremost, so even for as much as space marines have, there will always be more gaps. there's even a few consul options that still don't have models, iirc

but if GW is attempting to flesh out other armies, then i'd appreciate if they remember that Sisters exist. the army as it exists now is an advertisement for 3D printers. even resin upgrade kits would be appreciated, or the jetbikes, or the animals for the pursuers, or needle weapons

Sisters of Silence have several weapons that straight up do not exist in 40k. they might have been on a couple old models, but cannot be found on anything contemporary or even recent. from an external perspective, it's fascinating, but as a player who wants to build this army, i'd appreciate if they did literally anything

I agree, the Sisters feel super important to the Emperor's forces in the novels...

But in typical 30k games they are really lackluster. To the other Custodes players I've talked to, they feel like an afterthought... an afterthought with suuuuuper expensive ($$-wise) transports.

They would love to have a couple mixed Jetbike units screaming across the tabletop.

And I agree.

The crappy Nova roadmap said more factions are coming and because Custodes didn't get any new units in their rulebook it probably points to Sisters, who did.

that would be exciting

i assume that any major development for sisters would have to include some update to their plastic situation— that is, a box that comes with five models cannot be the backbone of an army

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

And Apothecaries. Seriously. It's just a single arm modification. Nartheciums. Add one to anything, and you've got an Apothecary. But, apparently, gw is fine with letting 3rd parties do that for them.

I think there is a bit more to them than that. And the resin models are actually very good (expensive though). But yeah, I would like plastic Apothecaries too.