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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/20 12:42:38
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Fixture of Dakka
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Gert wrote:Pretty sure the MoS is gone so unlike the Moritat, it actually is not available.
The others are recent enough that they don't need redone before any other Consuls.
Wasn't the MoS part of a 2 pack with the old Champion?
Still hoping for a Praetor. RG, WE, and Salamanders need both, IH need their Terminator one, IW need their PA one. It would also be nice if they finished the Leviathan Dread upgrades- why did White Scars and Night lords get leviathans before Iron Hands or Iron Warriors?
Decent number of consuls that still need models- some could be universal while others would work well for a traitor/loyalist dual release. And we have yet to see any Terminator armored consuls unless you could the very old Iron Father or exclusive Primus Medicae.
Master of Signals (no longer available)
Delegatus (though the Overseer or Herald models can stand in for them just fine, or even praetor models)
Chaplain (one does exist in mk IV plastic) would do well for a loyalist/traitor split
Forge Lord
Primus Medicae (one exclusive model in Terminator armor was released) would be another good chaos/loyalist split.
Armistos
Pathfinder
Mortificator
Moritat only exists in Jump form, and with plasma or volkite pistol options. Honestly would be a good candidate for a plastic model with 3-4 options for fancy pistols and jump pack or not. Maybe if they get around to doing a plastic Destroyer squad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/20 12:54:49
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Gert wrote:Pretty sure the MoS is gone so unlike the Moritat, it actually is not available.
The others are recent enough that they don't need redone before any other Consuls.
Still there - https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/Legion-Champion-and-Master-of-the-Signal
But the champion it's packed with was replaced (with a far superior model), so you have to think at some point they will do the other one as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/20 13:12:14
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Foxy Wildborne
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Gert wrote:Pretty sure the MoS is gone so unlike the Moritat, it actually is not available.
He's listed as temporarily out of stock online, same as roughly 150 other items out of 237 in the "Loyalist Legiones Astartes"
But no shade if you weren't able to find him on that website, even if you search for "signal" he's listed after two pages of completely random product including every single Kill Team card pack in Italian.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/20 14:16:55
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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I just assumed it was gone because the Champions got redone.
Fair do if it's still there.
MajorWesJanson wrote:
Moritat only exists in Jump form, and with plasma or volkite pistol options. Honestly would be a good candidate for a plastic model with 3-4 options for fancy pistols and jump pack or not. Maybe if they get around to doing a plastic Destroyer squad.
Just swap the jump pack? The cables aren't connected to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/20 14:40:52
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Foxy Wildborne
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To ba fair, Moritat is the easiest conversion. His defining feature is just 2 pistols. And I guess rad grenades.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/22 13:38:11
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Fixture of Dakka
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-Wrong thread-
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 13:07:38
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 13:09:29
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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That is nice and unexpected...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 13:32:12
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Not bad, not mind blown either, but not bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 13:40:34
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Huge Bone Giant
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Why is he called an Axiarch when he looks like a Maciarch?
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 13:57:36
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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The New Miss Macross!
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The pig latin in HH is getting pretty wild but I like the fig though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 14:40:53
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cool mini! Just a shame he's resin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 14:47:28
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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That's the best model I've seen in a very long time.
That's going to the top of my list, He'll make a thematic Magos for my AdMech Knights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 15:02:25
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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very neat to see a not-space marine. maybe if this becomes a trend, we may eventually get more talons minis
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 15:37:44
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Foxy Wildborne
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Not a Marine? This is on outrage!
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 16:40:51
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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He has S4, T4 and a 3+ save - he's fine, just looks a bit different.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 17:58:23
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Fixture of Dakka
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It's really cool that the Titans have their own foot soldiers.
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 19:50:24
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Now we need them in Epic scale with a Corvus Assault Pod for them to ride in!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 20:11:36
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yes! 100% YES!!!
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 20:50:54
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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cool mini just a shame you can't really get him on the field.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/23 23:48:27
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Geifer wrote:Why is he called an Axiarch when he looks like a Maciarch?
Booooooooo!!!
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F - is the Fire that rains from the skies.
U - for Uranium Bomb!
N - is for No Survivors... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/24 01:16:58
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Plastic secutarii and secutarii for LI when tho?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/24 09:31:04
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Aside from the fact he's not been released yet, why couldn't you?
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/24 11:49:14
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Reverent Tech-Adept
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Dysartes wrote:
Aside from the fact he's not been released yet, why couldn't you?
Because the only way to field him by the book is with a titan on the table - e.g. a minimum of a warhound... not exactly a common item in 30k scale for most folks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/24 11:57:50
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Piousservant wrote:Because the only way to field him by the book is with a titan on the table - e.g. a minimum of a warhound... not exactly a common item in 30k scale for most folks!
Nope. The Compulsory for the Titan Maniple Detachment is 1 Lords of War or 1 Troops (Optional: +2 HQ , +6 Troops, +3 Lords of War) so you can just take a single unit of Secutarii. I've been taking Peltasts alongside my Iron Hands.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/24 12:13:42
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Reverent Tech-Adept
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beast_gts wrote:Piousservant wrote:Because the only way to field him by the book is with a titan on the table - e.g. a minimum of a warhound... not exactly a common item in 30k scale for most folks!
Nope. The Compulsory for the Titan Maniple Detachment is 1 Lords of War or 1 Troops (Optional: +2 HQ , +6 Troops, +3 Lords of War) so you can just take a single unit of Secutarii. I've been taking Peltasts alongside my Iron Hands.
Ah cool, my bad! For some reason I thought both the troop and LOW were compulsory, obviously didn't look closely enough. I am right in thinking you can't ally them with other Mechanicum though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/24 12:15:11
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Only way to ally is to take an Archimandrite HQ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/24 16:32:04
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Nope.  Look at the FAQ, this restriction regarding the Divisio Tactica was removed some time ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/24 20:31:22
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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I just wish the Secutarii had a bit more unit variety. Like some dudes with rotor cannon or maybe twin flechette blasters for horde clearance. Plus if any of the 30k forces thematically fit the Ironstriders, the Secutarii do.
I mean these guys are supposed to deal with things that are beneath a Titan’s notice or which could actually hurt it so light vehicles down to hordes of conscripts with bombs strapped to them.
Also it would be really cool if their Kyropatris forcefield thing got better when in range of a Titan (some interaction with the void shields essentially).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/24 20:43:19
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R - Traitor Legion Overseer page 298
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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But…that’s what their Cannister Cannons do? Variety of loads, and can do horrible, horrible things to massed infantry.
Well. The Peltasts do. I’ve always seen the other unit as better suited to forming a corden around a fallen or damaged Titan until recovery can take place.
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