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Beasts of Chaos have what to do with HH exactly..?

 BrookM wrote:
Beasts of Chaos have what to do with HH exactly..?

They're an example that shows how stingy GW is currently being with products that COULD be used in multiple game systems but aren't for "reasons." So while GW releasing an upgrade sprue for a 30k unit that would be perfect to use in 40k makes a lot of sense to us, GW's current way of handling their games doesn't mesh with that

Take it somewhere else please, this thread is getting reported a fair few times now for going off-topic all the time.

I’m hopeful we’ll get a Marine Super Heavy or three, and at the other end, Sabres.

Infantry wise? Breachers, if only to end the complaints they’re yet to cross the Rubicon Plasticarus

We may be in for a decent Space Marine release looking at the missing kits from the webstore and some strong rumors. Considering the HH 2.0 rule book is sold out online, let's do a quick compilation of recent kit movement:

Kits Missing -
Falchion
Fellblade
Glaive
Legion Rapier (all variants)
Tarantula (heavy bolter & lascannon variant)

Kits Sold Out Online (without a current replacement) -
Mark 5 Armor
Sicaran Punisher
Sicaran Arcus
Sicaran Omega
Combi-weapons
Stormbird (probably not coming back)
Aurox
Charonite Ogryn
Carnodon (assumed to be revived)

There may be more and feel free to add, but any new edition box in tandem with some or all of these kits sounds like an expensive summer. It's worth noting that stock of Heresy products is abysmal, which is usually another tell-tale sign of a new edition.

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We're just going to keep doing this despite the mod warning?

Offshoot discussion thread to avoid cluttering this one.

My bad.

Thanks for creating that thread.

Because seriously..



Next person to ignore it gets whatever's in the box.



What's in the box?

Okay, back on topic, rumours about the new starter aside, has there been anything concrete on the missing stuff?

Considering the stock of any GW product has been largely terrible for a very long time (especially HH), that's not an indicator of a new edition of the game, it's just business as usual.

With the Tarantulas revealed (or partially revealed due to differing load outs), I’d reckon we’ll see the others before long, and the Rapiers.

We've had a few false alarms over out of stock items going plastic during this edition

But obviously most kits will be updated eventually

I'm hoping the rumours of a siege/gunline focused big box are false simple because we need plastic Fast Attack more than more heavy support.

Things like the rapiers and tarantulas aren't just out of stock, they have been completely removed from the webstore. So new plastic replacements seems all but guaranteed.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
We've had a few false alarms over out of stock items going plastic during this edition

This is true, the difference this time is most of those out of stock items were related to re-tooling of the sponsons on vehicles to incorporate the plastic sprue. I can't think of a single one of those kits that would require a re-tooling in resin.

Schrödingers Primarch wrote:
Kits Missing -
Falchion
Fellblade
Glaive
Legion Rapier (all variants)
Tarantula (heavy bolter & lascannon variant)

Dropping from the webstore like this is exactly what happened with the LI Knight kits that are now moving to plastic.

With around three months to go there's just enough time to squeeze in some plastic marine kits before the new edition. Super-heavy tanks / rapier / tarantula seems like a solid pick for that.

Surely with 3 months to go it's actually time for a rules supplement that will be immediately invalidated.

 xttz wrote:
With around three months to go there's just enough time to squeeze in some plastic marine kits before the new edition. Super-heavy tanks / rapier / tarantula seems like a solid pick for that.

Before the edition would be nice, but that seems like too large of a release for before 3.0. Camba-diaz needs to be previewed / released & Legions Imperialis Mechanicum kits will come out in upcoming HH release slots.

As a reminder, HH 2.0 had the release of 12 kits initially:
- Mark 6 armor
- Contemptor Dreadnought
- 2 Praetors
- Spartan
- Kratos
- Rhino
- Sicaran Battle Tank
- 3 Space Marine Heavy Weapon sets
- Space Marine Support Weapon set

If we got 8 kits and continued support, I would be happy. The super heavy tanks, Rapiers, Sicarans, and Tarantulas all have possibilities for one kit to cover multiple variants too. Of course HH 3.0 is still speculation until officially announced, but all arrows point to new edition.

I thought by this stage we'd be discussing much more than rumours. The lack of anything substantive from GW about a new edition is starting to make me think that at most we are looking at some kind of boxed set later in the year.

The amount or type of kits that are temporarily out of stock does not seem to be any indication of whether a new edition is imminent. Even basic kits like Mk 3 Marines ,Cataphractii and Rhino are currently out of stock.

The fact that the Rapier has disappeared and the Sicaran variants are 'sold out online' almost certainly means that plastic versions are coming. But these are the kinds of kits that GW could release any time. They probably already have the sprues done.

The fact that the resin Mk 5 Marines are also sold out may or may not mean that a plastic replacement is on the way soon. Same with the super-heavies. But if you were planning a new edition of the game, you'd probably want a flashy big kit to give the release some added impetus. A plastic Fellblade would serve that purpose. And a new edition would also be propelled by another Marine type going into plastic - I still think Mk 5 would be the best choice (more so than the rumoured Mk 2). The current plastic Mk 4 Marines are still in production, so it seems unlikely that they are going to be re-done soon. Making whichever type they release Breachers as well would be a very smart move, IMO.

 Snord wrote:
The amount or type of kits that are temporarily out of stock does not seem to be any indication of whether a new edition is imminent. Even basic kits like Mk 3 Marines ,Cataphractii and Rhino are currently out of stock.

A drastic reduction in stock can mean re-boxing for re-branding, combining sprue's for variants, ect. Not a strong indicator by any means. The biggest indicator is the rulebook being "sold out online" or a discontinued rule set. Hopefully we're talking roadmaps and not rumors at some point soon.

Again though, HH (and wider GW stock) has been god awful for the last while.

I was waiting 6 months for the Nemesis Claw kill team, got the stock email, then by the time I checked it was out of stock again.

Stock isn't any indication at this point.

 Snord wrote:
I thought by this stage we'd be discussing much more than rumours. The lack of anything substantive from GW about a new edition is starting to make me think that at most we are looking at some kind of boxed set later in the year.

Even covid only caused a few weeks of delay for the release of 40k 9th; it would have to be something major for GW to delay their biggest release of the year. Perhaps they were waiting for more news on the tariff situation before firming up their plans. However with all of the obvious reshuffling of the Adepticon schedule it looks as though things have been adjusted around the Summer release window. AOS battletomes were pushed back while 40k & KT stuff seem to have been brought forward earlier than expected.

I think the most likely course of events is that they'll focus mainly on 40k/KT in April, clear some of the HH backlog (Angron, LI), then tease the new edition aound Easter before ramping up the HH marketing going into May.

 Gert wrote:
I was waiting 6 months for the Nemesis Claw kill team, got the stock email, then by the time I checked it was out of stock again.

Are you still looking for those, btw? Pretty sure my local GW had a couple of boxes in on Saturday.

Nah, the plans for the project passed a while ago and I don't have the urge anymore.

I'm sure when the need comes back they'll go right back out stock again.

 BrookM wrote:

What's in the box?

Okay, back on topic, rumours about the new starter aside, has there been anything concrete on the missing stuff?

Anyway, would the next big reveal show be Warhammerfest? NOVA is August so unless they're completely giving up on summer for HH, it'd be whfest or bust for big reveals right?

LI Article Image, but I wonder if its something from an upcoming release - Iron Warriors colours

Part of me REALLY hopes we don't see LI go down the path of legion specific models.

It's not that I hate marines but anything that isn't a tank is basically going to be near identical - you can't really change the appearance of a marine all that much at this scale like you can in 28-32mm

Even Dreadnoughts aren't all that big

I really hope GW doesn't do it - it just feels so DULL a direction to take things when they could create xenos/demons/other imperial factions/other non-loyalist factions and such that had much more visual variety.


Perhaps an upgrade pack for tanks or something so it doesn't create a billion models and listings and work and such

FAQ looks good. Definitely clears a lot up.

Iron Warriors and Salamanders being the next face factions has been the rumor since the decal sheets came out.