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Anecdotally, my knight army (with ~500 points of pure flavor SoH allied detachment Dark Emissary + tactical squads dead weight) has gone undefeated against las havoc + siege tyrant IW so far and only lost to IH (with grav moritat) once.

If this makes me a good player, this will be the first army and first game system in almost 20 years where I can claim that.

"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life." - Jean Luc Picard - Michael Scott

Yeah, EC with Sunkillers was pretty much the bane of the army for me. I also found that not trying to lean into the really expensive big Knights was better and I know a lot of Knight players want to do that. I tend to run 8-9 Armigers and bring 2-3 relatively cheap Questoris rather than anything bigger or more expensive.

Man, they're not producing the best articles at the moment. To be honest, i was hoping for a Heresy Thursday and some Legion MkII Shoulder Pads or Heads

Not even a reference to the King in Yellow…

Well, that one is from a book M41, while their HH game set in M31.

Yeah no chance they will reference that.

Illnesses understand why people don't want updates?
Pike, this is good.
Revitalizing and getting more people into the game is good thing

 Platuan4th wrote:
Yeah, EC with Sunkillers was pretty much the bane of the army for me. I also found that not trying to lean into the really expensive big Knights was better and I know a lot of Knight players want to do that. I tend to run 8-9 Armigers and bring 2-3 relatively cheap Questoris rather than anything bigger or more expensive.

I didn't buy an Acastus for it to never see the table, you know? That big hunk of beautiful resin shouldn't be a liability.

Interesting that all of the HH 2.0 rule books have gone “Sold Out Online” on the GW UK webstore.

I admit I took delivery of the Liber Mechanicum, Liber Imperium and Martian Civil War books today, to complete my collection - not that I have any of those models right now, but maybe one day…

Well considering there's a new edition for all those books/factions around the corner - yeah makes sense to pull them rather than have GW getting "I bought this last week and now its out of date I want a refund" messages

 zedmeister wrote:
Man, they're not producing the best articles at the moment. To be honest, i was hoping for a Heresy Thursday and some Legion MkII Shoulder Pads or Heads

Hopefully this week was just getting the daily "so did you hear about our new trailer" posts out of the system and we'll see some more substantive (rules please!) content next week onwards.

I am very curious about whether we'll get the Mark II Legion-specific wave like we did with Mark VI after Age of Darkness. I'm leaning towards not, but we'll see

Well, the preview was preponed so I guess they have to stretch their planned content.

From the Starting Warhammer site:

Journal Tactica: The Isstvan V Dropsite Massacre – Part 1

This gaming supplement is the perfect place to get up to speed on the current Age of Darkness timeline. It explores the infamous events of the Dropsite Massacre, where a Retribution Fleet sought to bring Horus to account for the atrocities he had already committed against the Imperium. Unbeknownst to fleet, however, the roots of corruption ran deeper than any had yet dared to imagine.

The book includes a wealth of background on the warriors that fought on Isstvan V, detailed timelines of the massacre, and a stunning miniatures showcase that brings the conflict to life. Also included are rules for three new Legiones Astartes units and expandable Interdiction Cadres.

So the new army books don't include all units? You need to buy the day-0 expansion book as well?

Yes, it is known, day 1 DLC, enjoy.

The unit we've sneak peaked does feel a lot like an Arcane Journal unit (a supplementary, sidegrade unit you're intended to proxy)

So it might not be "compulsory" for normal play. Like, they didn't cut 3 core Legion units from the Libres to put in the Journal.

Wonder if 'expandable Interdiction Cadres' will be some kind of starter force format with a Crusade/escalation system to build out your new army as you go?

Is an Inderdiction Cadre a… Combat Patrol?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yes, it is known, day 1 DLC, enjoy.

The unit we've sneak peaked does feel a lot like an Arcane Journal unit (a supplementary, sidegrade unit you're intended to proxy)

So it might not be "compulsory" for normal play. Like, they didn't cut 3 core Legion units from the Libres to put in the Journal.

What unit have we seen from it?

Something came to mind today as I was driving home and trying not to crash the car. I did not crash the car.

I've been nervous about the, "less restrictions" reveal for list building. Of course that's new and new is scary, especially without context. First comes to mind is 40k style list building which is not a good thing in IMO.

BUT

It could also mean, "Troops may a rhino, drop pod or dread claw as a unit transport." as an example. That is less restrictions.

In all my games of 1st/2nd ed I've never seen some options taken, such as drop pods. Yes people have them, but everyone in my groups never did for over 12 years. POSSIBLY these "fewer restrictions" let you get around some things that were relegated to say Rights of War. Just a guess.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Yes, it is known, day 1 DLC, enjoy.

The unit we've sneak peaked does feel a lot like an Arcane Journal unit (a supplementary, sidegrade unit you're intended to proxy)

So it might not be "compulsory" for normal play. Like, they didn't cut 3 core Legion units from the Libres to put in the Journal.

What unit have we seen from it?

Have there been any rumours about the release date for the Saturnine box? In as much as release dates seem to be a bit fluid with current 2 week preorders and apparent production issues.

Age Of Darkness was released on June 18th 2022 so is June a decent shout?

June to July for the pre-order would be my guess. I'm leaning more toward late june or early july as it doesn't feel like the marketing has kicked up a gear toward release.

It also gives a bit more lag time for this big recent wave of items GW threw onto the market

There's a few things pointing towards preorder on June 28th, such as work scheduled on HH displays at WHW, and a competition ending on the 29th

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Have there been any rumours about the release date for the Saturnine box? In as much as release dates seem to be a bit fluid with current 2 week preorders and apparent production issues.

Age Of Darkness was released on June 18th 2022 so is June a decent shout?

GW said "launching alongside the new edition of Warhammer: The Horus Heresy in a few weeks’ time" here, and they've mentioned previews of the 'next few weeks' in quite a few other Saturnine articles, so it could be as soon as mid-June.

But I've seen AOS rumourmongers purportedly in the know say there are 3-4 weeks of preorders launching ahead of Heresy (including the new Kill Team & Cathay for Old World), so preorders on 28 June or 5 July seem plausible. I'm hoping it 's a little sooner

Mid June seems way too close for how many rules articles they usually milk out of an edition change

Marshal Loss wrote:
But I've seen AOS rumourmongers purportedly in the know say there are 3-4 weeks of preorders launching ahead of Heresy (including the new Kill Team & Cathay for Old World), so preorders on 28 June or 5 July seem plausible. I'm hoping it 's a little sooner

Ooh, a Cathay Kill Team that would be pretty cool.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Well, the preview was preponed so I guess they have to stretch their planned content.

anteponed?

Here at Warhammer Community, we get to answer the burning question “How Cool is 7 Cool?” in an exciting first look at new rules from Warhammer: The Horus Heresy, including the new characteristics for units and weapons, and the mysterious Tactical Statuses.

Rules previews to look forward to this week.

 Marshal Loss wrote:

Here at Warhammer Community, we get to answer the burning question “How Cool is 7 Cool?” in an exciting first look at new rules from Warhammer: The Horus Heresy, including the new characteristics for units and weapons, and the mysterious Tactical Statuses.

Rules previews to look forward to this week.

Sounds like a comprehensive list of things we've already seen!

Yes, but now with explanations for the things we have already seen

First rule preview is up:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/fstxtjge/rules-in-the-age-of-darkness-how-do-advanced-characteristics-work/
As expected, needless change for needless reasons dressed up as "Forging The Narrative".
Not sure why rolling to fix a leadership check to fix a vehicle or use an Auspex is needed in a mass battle game.
This isn't DnD.