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 lord_blackfang wrote:
That wraps up our look at the big new kits coming in the Saturnine box set, but don’t fret – there’s still loads more to see from the new edition, with a highly anticipated look at new army building rules coming next week.


We've had one, yes, but what about second army building rules?

I was assuming Rites of War/alternate primary detachments/additional force org charts/etc that will be in the libers.
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
I was assuming Rites of War/alternate primary detachments/additional force org charts/etc that will be in the libers.


I don't think RoW exist the same way. Armies now have the flexible build that RoW used to give them- all bikes, many dreadnaughts, etc... Not sure what they'll look like now.

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Well one thing that I suspect is that as keeping regular Centurion around unlocks an extra detachment, Consular upgrades instead let you take specific detachment or unit(s).

So if you upgrade your Centurion to be Master of Signal you can take related unit/detachment such as Scouts, Recon or Seeker unit for example. Or whole Recon detachment.

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 Sotahullu wrote:
Well one thing that I suspect is that as keeping regular Centurion around unlocks an extra detachment, Consular upgrades instead let you take specific detachment or unit(s).

So if you upgrade your Centurion to be Master of Signal you can take related unit/detachment such as Scouts, Recon or Seeker unit for example. Or whole Recon detachment.


That would make sense.

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In true Uncle Albert fashion we're in for another weeks worth of waffle for the new edition of 30K. Lore and "game systems" in the book.

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They have entirely removed the Horus Heresy section from Warhammer Digital. If they aren't going to put the new edition on digital then I definitely won't be getting any of it.

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Saturnine release date and price leak - releases 26th of July, 195GBP

If they follow the typical two week preorder, those will open 12th of july?

I will certainly not be getting a box, even if its priced like AoD was.. since there is nothing inside I'd really need. Bring on the plastic Landspeeders already

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245€ bracket, same price AoD was when discontinued, 15€ more than AoD was on release.


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Aww shucks, Allies are max 50% of points

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Surely if they're over 50%, they're no longer the ally, they're the main part of the force?

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

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 Dysartes wrote:
Surely if they're over 50%, they're no longer the ally, they're the main part of the force?


Well you can have 50% in Allied Detachments and 25% in Lords of War, which also don't have to be your main faction... so you could "play Marines" and have 75% points in Mechanicum.

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Very likely a load of cobblers, but apparently a medium-size Knight has been coughed and whispered for Legions Imperialis...very interested in seeing the upcoming Liber Questoris books to see if this is true...unless it's in a later supplement...if true at all.

That, I would be interested in.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Has a 4chan rumour come true... ever?


Yes... kind of. They get the part right that a model is being released soon... and that Games Workshop will being the ones to release a model.

Sadly, it's all the other details that are wrong.

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Is a medium knight not just a dominus chassis?

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Has a 4chan rumour come true... ever?


Well, rumours are pretty thin on the ground right now and its at least a nice thought.

I still think the Dominus would be an easy win. If GW stopped mucking around and just said right now "sure, it's in the upcoming Liber book", I'd order one right away and consider getting into 30K.


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chaos0xomega wrote:
Is a medium knight not just a dominus chassis?


The rumour is between the Armiger and Questoris, but yes, I suppose you would be right as the Acastus is the largest Knight.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Has a 4chan rumour come true... ever?


Yes, the massive set of rumours before 10th about the eldar refresh, votann and the rest. It basically mapped out half an edition.
   
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July release though? We’ve seen no previews, and July is looking to be All Saturnine, All Of The Time.

That alone has me highly suspicious.

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Valrak's take on it:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/live/s0e3GO5FYoo[youtube]

odd.. does this one work?


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Yeah, £195 seems too expensive to me too.

I thought that the Age Of Darkness set was really good value, it helped that I wanted pretty much everything in the box.

I don't think that I can justify the spend here, especially as I'm not completely sold on the weapons platform or big boy dread
   
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Yeah, I dunno about spending that much on the new boxed set either. The Saturnine models I can take or leave, apart from the Praetor (he’s so OTT I really like him). And the gun platform does nothing for me. I might just wait for the Mk 2 kit to come out separately.

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I’m still in for two.

I’m a Dreadoholic, and quite liking the Terminators.

MkII is gonna be for my veteran type units. A nice visual key for me and my opponent without having to buy fancy pants extra parts.

Big turrets may end up solely as terrain, depends on whether I can theme a list off of largely static emplacement type weapons and Rapiers and that.

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 tauist wrote:
Valrak's take on it:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/live/s0e3GO5FYoo[youtube]

odd.. does this one work?




One and a half hours?

No.
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
MkII is gonna be for my veteran type units. A nice visual key for me and my opponent without having to buy fancy pants extra parts.


That works for me, although I like mixing the armour types in my units. Speaking of veterans, has anyone worked out if the basic veteran squad is still a thing? Seeing as I just finished converting a squad with mixed ranged and melee weapons, just for the visual factor.

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Not sure we’ve confirmation either way.

But…given the contents of the HTH upgrade kit, I’d imagine they will remain with at least similar options.

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 Snord wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
MkII is gonna be for my veteran type units. A nice visual key for me and my opponent without having to buy fancy pants extra parts.


That works for me, although I like mixing the armour types in my units. Speaking of veterans, has anyone worked out if the basic veteran squad is still a thing? Seeing as I just finished converting a squad with mixed ranged and melee weapons, just for the visual factor.


Considering that they specifically mentioned being able to make Vets from the box during the reveal, I'm going to go with yes.

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MarkNorfolk wrote:
One and a half hours?

No.

He has done a shorter one since:
   
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 tauist wrote:
Valrak's take on it:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/live/s0e3GO5FYoo[youtube]

You missed the slash in the closing youtube tag - but, on the upside, it protected us from Valrak exposure for a bit.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

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The instructions for the saturnine box, looks like the disintegrator kit comes with a right handed pistol for the sergeant
   
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 Shakalooloo wrote:
MarkNorfolk wrote:
One and a half hours?

No.

He has done a shorter one since:

Could you give us the cliffs notes?
   
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 Platuan4th wrote:
Considering that they specifically mentioned being able to make Vets from the box during the reveal, I'm going to go with yes.


I understood that there are going to be specialised veteran units; it wasn't clear if the current 'omnibus' veteran squad will survive.

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