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That wraps up our look at the big new kits coming in the Saturnine box set, but don’t fret – there’s still loads more to see from the new edition, with a highly anticipated look at new army building rules coming next week.
We've had one, yes, but what about second army building rules?
I was assuming Rites of War/alternate primary detachments/additional force org charts/etc that will be in the libers.
lord_blackfang wrote: I was assuming Rites of War/alternate primary detachments/additional force org charts/etc that will be in the libers.
I don't think RoW exist the same way. Armies now have the flexible build that RoW used to give them- all bikes, many dreadnaughts, etc... Not sure what they'll look like now.
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Well one thing that I suspect is that as keeping regular Centurion around unlocks an extra detachment, Consular upgrades instead let you take specific detachment or unit(s).
So if you upgrade your Centurion to be Master of Signal you can take related unit/detachment such as Scouts, Recon or Seeker unit for example. Or whole Recon detachment.
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Sotahullu wrote: Well one thing that I suspect is that as keeping regular Centurion around unlocks an extra detachment, Consular upgrades instead let you take specific detachment or unit(s).
So if you upgrade your Centurion to be Master of Signal you can take related unit/detachment such as Scouts, Recon or Seeker unit for example. Or whole Recon detachment.
That would make sense.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
They have entirely removed the Horus Heresy section from Warhammer Digital. If they aren't going to put the new edition on digital then I definitely won't be getting any of it.
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Saturnine release date and price leak - releases 26th of July, 195GBP
If they follow the typical two week preorder, those will open 12th of july?
I will certainly not be getting a box, even if its priced like AoD was.. since there is nothing inside I'd really need. Bring on the plastic Landspeeders already
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Dysartes wrote: Surely if they're over 50%, they're no longer the ally, they're the main part of the force?
Well you can have 50% in Allied Detachments and 25% in Lords of War, which also don't have to be your main faction... so you could "play Marines" and have 75% points in Mechanicum.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
Very likely a load of cobblers, but apparently a medium-size Knight has been coughed and whispered for Legions Imperialis...very interested in seeing the upcoming Liber Questoris books to see if this is true...unless it's in a later supplement...if true at all.
Well, rumours are pretty thin on the ground right now and its at least a nice thought.
I still think the Dominus would be an easy win. If GW stopped mucking around and just said right now "sure, it's in the upcoming Liber book", I'd order one right away and consider getting into 30K.
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
Yeah, I dunno about spending that much on the new boxed set either. The Saturnine models I can take or leave, apart from the Praetor (he’s so OTT I really like him). And the gun platform does nothing for me. I might just wait for the Mk 2 kit to come out separately.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: MkII is gonna be for my veteran type units. A nice visual key for me and my opponent without having to buy fancy pants extra parts.
That works for me, although I like mixing the armour types in my units. Speaking of veterans, has anyone worked out if the basic veteran squad is still a thing? Seeing as I just finished converting a squad with mixed ranged and melee weapons, just for the visual factor.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: MkII is gonna be for my veteran type units. A nice visual key for me and my opponent without having to buy fancy pants extra parts.
That works for me, although I like mixing the armour types in my units. Speaking of veterans, has anyone worked out if the basic veteran squad is still a thing? Seeing as I just finished converting a squad with mixed ranged and melee weapons, just for the visual factor.
Considering that they specifically mentioned being able to make Vets from the box during the reveal, I'm going to go with yes.
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Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...