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The mostly nice bit, weapon profiles

Albeit still listed by technology instead of alphabetically, so difficult to look up during a game

https://imgur.com/a/8EaFmTM

The Great Deprival

 Lathe Biosas wrote:


I'm glad that Questoris Knights aand Titans are their own book and not part of the Mechanicum.

Now I only need 1 Liber to play. If I want to add allies later, I don't mind looking at other books then. But I prefer a simple approach in the beginning.

I'm on the fence if the new book contains enough new content to warrant the split and still charge roughly the same price as the old edition Liber Mechanicum book.

That said, it would still be better value than the codices for 40K.

Bolter & Chainsword folks feeling pretty salty right now. The idea that options were removed from Libers just so they can re-sell em to you a year later in the form of a journal isn't getting a lot of love from the community.

Feels bad seeing HH fans getting what 10th ed 40K gave me

 tauist wrote:


Feels bad seeing HH fans getting what 10th ed 40K gave me

This rhetoric is so tiring. If you want to doompost, go on reddit.

Come back when you've actually played the version of the game you're preemptively criticizing.

GrimmT wrote:
This rhetoric is so tiring. If you want to doompost, go on reddit.

Come back when you've actually played the version of the game you're preemptively criticizing.

And then come back after the FAQ! And after the next journal! And after the next edition! In fact you're not allowed to have an opinion that upsets me!

 tauist wrote:
Bolter & Chainsword folks feeling pretty salty right now. The idea that options were removed from Libers just so they can re-sell em to you a year later in the form of a journal isn't getting a lot of love from the community.

Feels bad seeing HH fans getting what 10th ed 40K gave me

Clearly they are not salty enough. I hope GW looses enough customers, and money, that people at the top get fired. I've not even seen a single thing for the new edition that excites me.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

GrimmT wrote:
This rhetoric is so tiring. If you want to doompost, go on reddit.

Come back when you've actually played the version of the game you're preemptively criticizing.

And then come back after the FAQ! And after the next journal! And after the next edition! In fact you're not allowed to have an opinion that upsets me!

No, we get it, you hate everything and everything sucks. Better pack it in and sell your stuff then.

there will be eough people who are happy with to make it a success
and not buying it because it is a bad product isn't even an option, poor GW must be given a chance
also don't forget, not matter how bad it is, in 3 years there will be a new game anyway so just keep buying and stop playing until than

this is still a GW game, not matter how salty people are this won't turn into an X-Wing like scenario but still selling out

GrimmT wrote:

 tauist wrote:


Feels bad seeing HH fans getting what 10th ed 40K gave me

This rhetoric is so tiring. If you want to doompost, go on reddit.

Come back when you've actually played the version of the game you're preemptively criticizing.

Which I agree the "Oh noes 40k!" Tagline for things that aren't realistically to do with the system is tiring, there are plenty of things you don't need to play it to dislike.

GrimmT wrote:
No, we get it, you hate everything and everything sucks. Better pack it in and sell your stuff then.

Weird you're in here backseat moderating when you only post in the Swap Shop

Dial it down please everyone, you are all entitled to your opinions but there is no need to be rude. If you find someone elses opinions tiresome then skip their posts or put them on ignore, if they break the rules then hit the yellow triangle.

Dudeface wrote:

GrimmT wrote:

 tauist wrote:


Feels bad seeing HH fans getting what 10th ed 40K gave me

This rhetoric is so tiring. If you want to doompost, go on reddit.

Come back when you've actually played the version of the game you're preemptively criticizing.

Which I agree the "Oh noes 40k!" Tagline for things that aren't realistically to do with the system is tiring, there are plenty of things you don't need to play it to dislike.

Well the good news is you guys can all play 2nd edition still for the rest of your life. Nothing is stopping you.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:

GrimmT wrote:
No, we get it, you hate everything and everything sucks. Better pack it in and sell your stuff then.

Weird you're in here backseat moderating when you only post in the Swap Shop

Weird behavior to check my history from years ago. Noone is backseat moderating, seems like you like to gatekeep though? Where should I post before I can post my opinion here master? "Oh my god this guy paints entire armies and sells them, he's not a T R U E gamer like me!!"

 kodos wrote:
not matter how bad it is, in 3 years there will be a new game anyway so just keep buying and stop playing until than

Spend money on models I wont use, wait three, years repeat .
Hope is not a plan .

GrimmT wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

GrimmT wrote:

 tauist wrote:


Feels bad seeing HH fans getting what 10th ed 40K gave me

This rhetoric is so tiring. If you want to doompost, go on reddit.

Come back when you've actually played the version of the game you're preemptively criticizing.

Which I agree the "Oh noes 40k!" Tagline for things that aren't realistically to do with the system is tiring, there are plenty of things you don't need to play it to dislike.

Well the good news is you guys can all play 2nd edition still for the rest of your life. Nothing is stopping you.

Well, several people have said in here they'll do exactly that. Mostly it's the fear of not getting games in as easily as before, because not everyone will stick to second edition and others might quit the game entirely when GW invalidates their models. The have backpedalled on that brainless stance in lotr recently, so I hope for HH fans that everything lost will find its way into legends PDFs at least.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

GrimmT wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

GrimmT wrote:

 tauist wrote:


Feels bad seeing HH fans getting what 10th ed 40K gave me

This rhetoric is so tiring. If you want to doompost, go on reddit.

Come back when you've actually played the version of the game you're preemptively criticizing.

Which I agree the "Oh noes 40k!" Tagline for things that aren't realistically to do with the system is tiring, there are plenty of things you don't need to play it to dislike.

Well the good news is you guys can all play 2nd edition still for the rest of your life. Nothing is stopping you.

Well, several people have said in here they'll do exactly that. Mostly it's the fear of not getting games in as easily as before, because not everyone will stick to second edition and others might quit the game entirely when GW invalidates their models. The have backpedalled on that brainless stance in lotr recently, so I hope for HH fans that everything lost will find its way into legends PDFs at least.

Yeah, I expected stuff to go to legacy but I honestly don't understand why they got rid of destroyers.

To sell them back to you in a Journal
That's my completely serious answer, albeit personal conjecture

They stated outright in the round table that they're going to sell you back kitbashing options through Journals after cutting them from the Libers, why not Destroyers too.

 warhead01 wrote:

 kodos wrote:
not matter how bad it is, in 3 years there will be a new game anyway so just keep buying and stop playing until than

Spend money on models I wont use, wait three years, repeat .
Hope is not a plan .

guess this is how GW imagines their customers

 kodos wrote:

 warhead01 wrote:

 kodos wrote:
not matter how bad it is, in 3 years there will be a new game anyway so just keep buying and stop playing until than

Spend money on models I wont use, wait three years, repeat .
Hope is not a plan .

guess this is how GW imagines their customers

And they're often right. There's also been some theories that they're intentionally corralling people from system to system in a loop, tho I'm not sure if GW are competent enough to intentionally make a ruleset good or bad. If they are, I suppose we are expected to jump to TOW now for 18 months and then they feth that up in time to push us towards 40k 11th.

Regarding HH, we'll see if 2.0 has enough appeal for players to keep playing it (rather than just waiting 3 years not playing HH), in that case the player base splits properly and it's all down from there.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Cusswords aren't mine, it's about some drama with SN Battle Reports allegedly trying to snitch on the leaker

https://imgur.com/a/jYokLre

Wow. Someone's a bit grouchy at Pardo.
Gotta admire the commitment to putting his message on every single image though.



Well I was hoping the Dark Angels might get some of our funky wargear from 1st Edition back, but no joy. Was really hoping for a return of Molecular Acid Shells and other such fun things. But clearly not to be.
I was fully prepared to not play this edition purely out of spite. But the more I look at what's been leaked, the less I like what I see any way, so I'll be sticking with 2nd ed.

I hope those who move into 3rd get some enjoyment out of it.

Titan rules...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/w4pg4fut/rules-in-the-age-of-darkness-how-to-fight-and-kill-a-titan/

Titans out here playing Battletech while everyone else is playing Warhams.

 The Phazer wrote:
The massive amount of invalidation is really putting me off the edition.

I'm not ordering the box on Saturday any more, I just have a bitter taste in my mouth about the whole exercise.

The entire appeal of 30k is that it doesn't have the dumb weapons restrictions of 40k FFS.

How do you know what's actually been invalidated without seeing what's been moved to Legacy?

Since they said the other day that Legacy stuff is tourney/event legal....

I need the Traitor book to leak so I can see if the Reavers I was about to build are remotely valid.

 Snrub wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Cusswords aren't mine, it's about some drama with SN Battle Reports allegedly trying to snitch on the leaker

https://imgur.com/a/jYokLre

Wow. Someone's a bit grouchy at Pardo.
Gotta admire the commitment to putting his message on every single image though.

The story is he's been passing on details of anyone on the discord sharing rules info ahead of the nda lift to GW. Hence the beef with the heavy handed moderation. The random dig at Reddit I saw somewhere is the 30k sub won't allow any leaked images on it and seem to force group the threads into pinned megathreads to go die slowly.

That said, Pardo obviously might have a financial stake in not having the rules on their discord, because why else might you subscribe and donate to their massive wave of new HH content set to drop day 1, but to see the rules and army info.

Multi-Meltas going to Armorbane at only 8" is kinda hilarious with all the panic.

Was reading the Titan mission on the WarCom article on Titans and it mentioned a Crusade Force Organization Chart, and a Titan Detachment.

Does anyone know how the Army building is going tonwork in HH3?

I hear there's no FOC - then I read there is one on the GW site. I'm a little confused.

Incredibly funny how we are now past "Just wait for the libers" and onto the "Just wait for the Legacies PDF" cope. Once the Legacies PDF comes out and doesn't satisfy that, we'll move onto "Wait for the expansion books". Then when they come out, we'll move onto "the changes are good, actually."

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

Does anyone know how the Army building is going tonwork in HH3?

I mean, there's an entire WarCom article about it.

Just reading the comments for Val's video for today. LamentedSun takes the prize...

"The Rules Drop Massacre".