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 RedSarge wrote:
Only cursory following of the dumpster fire that is stripped-edition 30k 3.0, but that's not my question. Sad deal.

My question here is regarding Saturnine.
Is a man supposed to be inside that armor? I'm looking at the hips and shoulders, it just doesn't add up at all.. like at all.
Bull-legged at best, and with dislocated shoulders in your armpits?

Is that the secret, that Saturnine is just a Thallax/Contemptor light?

Oh that. There's more discussion on the topic here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/1ku92dr/saturnine_anatomy_continued/

 Dryaktylus wrote:

I play Mechanicum too (usually Dark), and sorry, but 2.0 was just really awful. There's no way I hold it in fond memory. Especially Thralls were absolutely useless most of the time. And the Dark Mech rules sucked even more than the main list in the Liber. Good luck with that.

Perfectly understandable afterall i pointed it out with the nerf of the PDF daemonengine cybertheurgy. I however refuse to go into a system that allready has announced what ammounts to two cut content DLC's in a fething physical game.

There comes a point in every wargamers career in regards to GW in which one has to go forward and realise that after 4-6 games that they can rewrite the rules themselves to a higher degree in 2-3 days and the only reason it's not done is that people then expect a flawless product out of homewritten rules whilest defending the standard GW faulty ones because they are standard. Which is peak irony. And after that realisation those of us with close knit communities do so anyways and those orbiting official GW bubbles which are larger won't. Unless GW feths up massivly.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
I think I'll just grab the Journals off Telegram instead of trying to slog through the DEUTSCHE VERSION

Dieser Kommentar ist Eigentum des DACH-Verbandes deutschsprechender Staaten.
This comment is owned by the DACH-Association of german speaking states.

Yes this is a reference.

 tauist wrote:

 RedSarge wrote:
Only cursory following of the dumpster fire that is stripped-edition 30k 3.0, but that's not my question. Sad deal.

My question here is regarding Saturnine.
Is a man supposed to be inside that armor? I'm looking at the hips and shoulders, it just doesn't add up at all.. like at all.
Bull-legged at best, and with dislocated shoulders in your armpits?

Is that the secret, that Saturnine is just a Thallax/Contemptor light?

Oh that. There's more discussion on the topic here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/1ku92dr/saturnine_anatomy_continued/

Of those, C makes the most sense. A renders the armor more akin to a dreadnought, and rather permanent. C leans into the need for psychic talent more. The other would just result in broken bones.

 tauist wrote:

 RedSarge wrote:
Only cursory following of the dumpster fire that is stripped-edition 30k 3.0, but that's not my question. Sad deal.

My question here is regarding Saturnine.
Is a man supposed to be inside that armor? I'm looking at the hips and shoulders, it just doesn't add up at all.. like at all.
Bull-legged at best, and with dislocated shoulders in your armpits?

Is that the secret, that Saturnine is just a Thallax/Contemptor light?

Oh that. There's more discussion on the topic here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/1ku92dr/saturnine_anatomy_continued/

Ok, tha looks like fun xD. But neither B nor D fit in the hips

Yeah B and D are obvs wrong, the armor at the hip joint wpuld need to be too thin to fit a body at that angle and theres no range of motion to actually be able to walk without breaking the pilots body.

 BorderCountess wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 RedSarge wrote:
Only cursory following of the dumpster fire that is stripped-edition 30k 3.0, but that's not my question. Sad deal.

My question here is regarding Saturnine.
Is a man supposed to be inside that armor? I'm looking at the hips and shoulders, it just doesn't add up at all.. like at all.
Bull-legged at best, and with dislocated shoulders in your armpits?

Is that the secret, that Saturnine is just a Thallax/Contemptor light?

Oh that. There's more discussion on the topic here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/1ku92dr/saturnine_anatomy_continued/

Of those, C makes the most sense. A renders the armor more akin to a dreadnought, and rather permanent. C leans into the need for psychic talent more. The other would just result in broken bones.

I don't think Psychic talent factors into it at all. The Hereticus book mentions that the Sons of Horus used trial by physical combat to prove their right to don one of the suits. It's made pretty clear that only the best of the best were allowed access to them.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 RedSarge wrote:
Only cursory following of the dumpster fire that is stripped-edition 30k 3.0, but that's not my question. Sad deal.

My question here is regarding Saturnine.
Is a man supposed to be inside that armor? I'm looking at the hips and shoulders, it just doesn't add up at all.. like at all.
Bull-legged at best, and with dislocated shoulders in your armpits?

Is that the secret, that Saturnine is just a Thallax/Contemptor light?

Oh that. There's more discussion on the topic here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/1ku92dr/saturnine_anatomy_continued/

Of those, C makes the most sense. A renders the armor more akin to a dreadnought, and rather permanent. C leans into the need for psychic talent more. The other would just result in broken bones.

I don't think Psychic talent factors into it at all. The Hereticus book mentions that the Sons of Horus used trial by physical combat to prove their right to don one of the suits. It's made pretty clear that only the best of the best were allowed access to them.

All the WarCom articles make repeatedly clear that some level of psychic ability is necessary.

Lord Zarkov wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 RedSarge wrote:
Only cursory following of the dumpster fire that is stripped-edition 30k 3.0, but that's not my question. Sad deal.

My question here is regarding Saturnine.
Is a man supposed to be inside that armor? I'm looking at the hips and shoulders, it just doesn't add up at all.. like at all.
Bull-legged at best, and with dislocated shoulders in your armpits?

Is that the secret, that Saturnine is just a Thallax/Contemptor light?

Oh that. There's more discussion on the topic here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/1ku92dr/saturnine_anatomy_continued/

Of those, C makes the most sense. A renders the armor more akin to a dreadnought, and rather permanent. C leans into the need for psychic talent more. The other would just result in broken bones.

I don't think Psychic talent factors into it at all. The Hereticus book mentions that the Sons of Horus used trial by physical combat to prove their right to don one of the suits. It's made pretty clear that only the best of the best were allowed access to them.

All the WarCom articles make repeatedly clear that some level of psychic ability is necessary.

Yeah, but it’s not “can melt steel beams with my mind” power but normal background level that like 15% of Imperial humans get, where they’re a bit too lucky, or heal a little too fast. Stuff that doesn’t even look like psychic power 99% of the time.

Besides, that Reddit thread is wrong: the pilots (there are two) are actually sitting inside the pauldrons with their feet dangling down into the torso of the suit.

I stay with 2nd Edition.

This Edition will become a totaly Mess with all that Journals, Core Units spread over multiple Booklets they surley will but into One Book in 2 Years. Cut Weapon Options on the Tartaros.

Also they should print those Journals in different languages, when they even take the time to make them available als PDFs in german, french ect.

Having those Saturnine Armour on every Book cover look stupid and is ridiculous...