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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0018/06/09 22:55:46
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ashiraya wrote:I would agree, but I am up to six contemptors now (four of which are painted, I am working on it) and I really feel like I'd rather have a Deredeo or something.
Six talons, right? You meant six talons, didn't you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/09 23:23:08
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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[DCM]
Social Justice Death Knight
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Do you have six talons painted? Painting takes time! If I could get (reasonably) paid for it I'd paint all day every day...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/09 23:45:42
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
Where Angels Fear to Tread.
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Ashiraya wrote:Do you have six talons painted? Painting takes time! If I could get (reasonably) paid for it I'd paint all day every day...
Live closer to the lazy painters of Florida who can't prime models for half the year and your dream could be a reality.
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Has anyone heard the rumor of a plastic Telemon Dreadnought for Legio Custodes? I keep hearing people talk about it like it's a done deal since the book mentioned weapons the current resin model doesn't have.
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BorderCountess wrote:Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age."
"Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?"
"Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/10 02:49:36
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ashiraya wrote:Do you have six talons painted? Painting takes time! If I could get (reasonably) paid for it I'd paint all day every day...
I'm working on it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/10 08:50:01
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Phanobi
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I suppose Recon squad will be an upgrade kit, then. Maybe the same kit will have room for combi-weapons as well.
It is sad that GW went the stingy route here and reused the Jump pack sprue from the MKVI assault squad. I liked the old design. Not sure what I'll do, the old resin and plastic MKIV jump packs might look too weedy next to the MKII Jump Packs my beakies are using.. Maybe I'll just use the MKII Jump Packs for everyone..
Does anyone know of some source for IXth Chapter symbols with MKIV style trim on them? I intend to mix some MKIV models into my beakie squads, and they will need sculpter chapter symbols (I only have 1 of the old resin ones)
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Read 28-mag.com yet? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/10 08:52:14
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Morbid Black Knight
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Seekers will probably be an upgrade kit
Recon I could still see being a separate kit, they'd really benefit from a camo cloak or something I think. Although just a sniper upgrade bit is certainly within the realm of possibilities if GW wants to be lame and boring
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/10 16:22:26
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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[DCM]
Social Justice Death Knight
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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tauist wrote:I suppose Recon squad will be an upgrade kit, then. Maybe the same kit will have room for combi-weapons as well.
It is sad that GW went the stingy route here and reused the Jump pack sprue from the MKVI assault squad. I liked the old design. Not sure what I'll do, the old resin and plastic MKIV jump packs might look too weedy next to the MKII Jump Packs my beakies are using.. Maybe I'll just use the MKII Jump Packs for everyone..
Does anyone know of some source for IXth Chapter symbols with MKIV style trim on them? I intend to mix some MKIV models into my beakie squads, and they will need sculpter chapter symbols (I only have 1 of the old resin ones)
The old style MKIV jump packs will look fine on them. They will look weedy next to the new MKII jump packs, but that is because the latter are comically oversized for some reason (same as their chainaxes). They're out of proportion with all the other backpacks and jump packs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/10 17:36:14
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Fixture of Dakka
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I wonder if the mk 6 style jump packs are on a seperate sprue from the mk 4 bodies, and maybe a destroyer upgrade set will come along with the single turbine packs added to the mk 4 assault bodies
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/10 17:48:32
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Phanobi
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Ashiraya wrote: tauist wrote:I suppose Recon squad will be an upgrade kit, then. Maybe the same kit will have room for combi-weapons as well.
It is sad that GW went the stingy route here and reused the Jump pack sprue from the MKVI assault squad. I liked the old design. Not sure what I'll do, the old resin and plastic MKIV jump packs might look too weedy next to the MKII Jump Packs my beakies are using.. Maybe I'll just use the MKII Jump Packs for everyone..
Does anyone know of some source for IXth Chapter symbols with MKIV style trim on them? I intend to mix some MKIV models into my beakie squads, and they will need sculpter chapter symbols (I only have 1 of the old resin ones)
The old style MKIV jump packs will look fine on them. They will look weedy next to the new MKII jump packs, but that is because the latter are comically oversized for some reason (same as their chainaxes). They're out of proportion with all the other backpacks and jump packs.
Well, that is like, just your opinion, man. When the new MKII Assault Squad kit was released, I tested both the old resin Jump Packs and the new MKII Jump Pack side by side on my NuBeakies, and the old resin ones looked too weedy in comparison. So in the end I went with the larger plastic ones. Which made me quite sad, as I had just spent 150€ on ebay sourcing the OOP resin Jump Packs in that style.. I do agree with you on those chainaxes though, they look dumb and wont be using them.
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MajorWesJanson wrote:I wonder if the mk 6 style jump packs are on a seperate sprue from the mk 4 bodies, and maybe a destroyer upgrade set will come along with the single turbine packs added to the mk 4 assault bodies
That would be a nice curveball comeback for this! Here's hoping..
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Read 28-mag.com yet? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/11 01:30:40
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I hope recon is bespoke and not an upgrade kit, we need proper lads with sniper poses and cloaks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/11 06:34:10
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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MajorWesJanson wrote:I wonder if the mk 6 style jump packs are on a seperate sprue from the mk 4 bodies, and maybe a destroyer upgrade set will come along with the single turbine packs added to the mk 4 assault bodies
We've already seen the jump pack sprue (in the mkvi assault squad kit), so yeah it is separate:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/11 09:24:58
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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I'm assuming they'll release MkV next year if they keep this pattern.
The only question now is will they wipe out all the MkVII kits from 40k and release a MkVII Late Siege/Scouring kit to replace them?
I feel like the odds are astronomically low, but now that the Firstborn Deathwatch kit is gone, I wonder if we could eventually even see a Scouring or Badab War MkVIII kit as well. (Tbh, I don't remember when canonically MkVIII was developed so...)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/11 13:01:00
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Phanobi
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MKV next year? I truly hope so. I need those for my DC. This drip feeding is getting tedious
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Read 28-mag.com yet? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/11 13:16:19
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Pages from the Black Books – The White Scars
join us next week as we follow the White Scars to the Chondax system, where they will find themselves ambushed by Traitor forces.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/11 13:23:47
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Morbid Black Knight
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Perhaps Mk.V will launch the 4th edition box
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/11 14:18:01
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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[DCM]
Chief Deputy Sub Assistant Trainee Squig Handling Intern
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Seems entirely feasible. Will be interesting to see how they go about then. MkVI pads may be fiddly, but serve a specific purpose.
And MkV isn’t MkV without more bonding studs than a…well. There’s a lot of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/11 19:14:48
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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I wonder how many fingers those Mk. V marines will have…
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/12 09:21:58
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I doubt they'll leave it another 2 years to bring out MK5.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/12 10:58:58
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Malika2 wrote:I wonder how many fingers those Mk. V marines will have…
Don't bully the (not named) definitely human artist over the faux pas, whilest you are at it.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/12 12:23:21
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Not Online!!! wrote: Malika2 wrote:I wonder how many fingers those Mk. V marines will have…
Don't bully the (not named) definitely human artist over the faux pas, whilest you are at it.
Would you want to be publicly named and shamed for a screwup bad enough people called it ai?
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"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/12 12:28:38
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Mr_Rose wrote:
Would you want to be publicly named and shamed for a screwup bad enough people called it ai?
Eh these days ANY failure in art is called out as AI. Though an extra finger is very classic AI.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/12 12:33:59
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Mr_Rose wrote:Not Online!!! wrote: Malika2 wrote:I wonder how many fingers those Mk. V marines will have…
Don't bully the (not named) definitely human artist over the faux pas, whilest you are at it.
Would you want to be publicly named and shamed for a screwup bad enough people called it ai?
See, here's the issue, GW doesn't credit artists at all since a long time. Ergo i don't believe them at all in regards to QA and i certainly don't put them above the use of AI slop in the pursuit of not saving some pennies
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/12 14:04:44
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Morbid Black Knight
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I genuinely don't believe GW directed their artistic employees or contractors to use AI. Quite the opposite, we know they told them not to.
But I cannot fathom how a human would draw an extra finger, especially one so perfectly integrated into the hand/wrist like AI does.
GW's explanation of "it's miniature photography" makes even less sense - their minis have the right amount of fingers too!
I'm pretty convinced an artist used an AI filter of some kind. And it, as AI is want to do, added an extra finger.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/12 17:21:22
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That's the maddest part of all though, generative AI stopped routinely making that kind of basic anatomical mistake ages ago now. So if it is AI not only must they have cheaped out by using AI at all, they then cheaped out again by using an old or poorly trained model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/12 17:24:47
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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It's not AI. It's a photoshop layer error, probably.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/12 23:35:56
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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[DCM]
Social Justice Death Knight
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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This is what everyone is saying and I agree it's the most likely. Like, for real. AI is a scourge, but this is serious. Under British law GW could get in genuine trouble for lying to their investors here, and they are adamant they don't use AI. We already have countless companies that cheerfully boast about using AI whatever their customers say or want. What point would there be to lying?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/13 05:22:09
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ashiraya wrote:
This is what everyone is saying and I agree it's the most likely.
Like, for real. AI is a scourge, but this is serious. Under British law GW could get in genuine trouble for lying to their investors here, and they are adamant they don't use AI.
We already have countless companies that cheerfully boast about using AI whatever their customers say or want. What point would there be to lying?
$$.
Because when you claim you dont use AI, and then you get caught & there's potential consequences....
People: "You used AI!"
Them: "No we didnt. Thats, uh, um, a Photoshop layering error. Yeah, that what is is."
People: "Sure it is...."
Next theyll try & convince us that 11e is thoroughly playtested & finely balanced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/13 06:35:00
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Not as Good as a Minion
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problem here is, the rules text for HH already reads AI written with pointless stuff added into the middle of a paragraph to fill the pages
which was put down as "we just want the rules as detailed as possible, no AI is used at GW"
Now we have an extra Finger that "Photoshop error, we don't use AI"
at least for HH this doesn't look good but won't matter at all, as even if GW would stand there and announce that all rules, all pictures and all models are made by AI and that is why they don't credit artists any more, there won't be any consequences outside of a week of social media outcry and next release selling out on pre-order
No matter what they do, people get over it and buy because what else you gonna do, play a game made by someone else
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/13 07:17:42
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Ork on the cover art of Fear The Alien famously had six fingers, so GW's artists do have form.
And GW's Photoshopping on box art is often sloppy.
I'd agree that it's almost certainly an editing tool incorporating AI in this case though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2026/06/13 08:17:11
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K N&R
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Foxy Wildborne
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kodos wrote:problem here is, the rules text for HH already reads AI written with pointless stuff added into the middle of a paragraph to fill the pages
Yea and the deranged language hasn't been used anywhere else.
I'm convinced the devs made a cool, streamlined rulebook, and then some manager threw a fit and told them they're not allowed to have a slimmer book than last time and they have 6 hours to pad it out, so they put it into a basic LLM and asked it to make the text longer while saying the same thing.
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