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Yeah Chaos in 40k is weird in that I think they do actually get quite a lot of attention. It’s just that the attention they get always seems to be a double edged sword of some kind.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Yeah Chaos in 40k is weird in that I think they do actually get quite a lot of attention. It’s just that the attention they get always seems to be a double edged sword of some kind.

You could say, every time they work on a Chaos Codex, the result is very chaotic ...... I'll see myself out

Well, the preview of Lord Invocatus lends a huge amount of credence to the Reddit leaker, who not only spoiled the model type (Unique Jugger Lord), but also got the name right.

The implications:
NO Khorne Terminators (Red Butchers, Lord, or otherwise)
NO Khorne vehicles
New Releases (not already previewed) restricted mainly to: Standard Jugger Lord (dual kit w/ Invocatus), Khorne Possessed #1, Khorne Possessed #2.
CSM Ports: Daemon Prince, Master of Executions (HQ), Helbrute, Potato Tanks, X-Fiends, Heldrake

There could be more CSM ports (like Cultists), but this is giving us a pretty good idea of what the Codex will look like.

They'll have at least one terminator, that limited edition guy that's almost Chaos lord in the stats.

 TonyH122 wrote:
Well, the preview of Lord Invocatus lends a huge amount of credence to the Reddit leaker, who not only spoiled the model type (Unique Jugger Lord), but also got the name right.

The implications:
NO Khorne Terminators (Red Butchers, Lord, or otherwise)
NO Khorne vehicles
New Releases (not already previewed) restricted mainly to: Standard Jugger Lord (dual kit w/ Invocatus), Khorne Possessed #1, Khorne Possessed #2.
CSM Ports: Daemon Prince, Master of Executions (HQ), Helbrute, Potato Tanks, X-Fiends, Heldrake

There could be more CSM ports (like Cultists), but this is giving us a pretty good idea of what the Codex will look like.

What do you mean by CSM ports? As in, World Eaters-specific versions of all of those units?


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Also what are potato tanks and X-fiends?

CSM ports = units shared with Codex Chaos Space Marines.

Potato Tanks = Tanks that are potatoes (Predators, Rhinos, Land Raiders).

X-Fiends = Forgefiend and Maulerfiend.

I like the helmet. Did the new bezerkers get that kind of asthetic as well?

 warboss wrote:
I like the helmet. Did the new bezerkers get that kind of asthetic as well?

Not really, thankfully (I like it for this guy but glad the whole army isn’t so AoS Khorne):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/09/01/nova-open-reveals-the-new-khorne-berzerkers-in-all-their-savage-glory/

 TonyH122 wrote:
Well, the preview of Lord Invocatus lends a huge amount of credence to the Reddit leaker, who not only spoiled the model type (Unique Jugger Lord), but also got the name right.

The implications:
NO Khorne Terminators (Red Butchers, Lord, or otherwise)
NO Khorne vehicles
New Releases (not already previewed) restricted mainly to: Standard Jugger Lord (dual kit w/ Invocatus), Khorne Possessed #1, Khorne Possessed #2.
CSM Ports: Daemon Prince, Master of Executions (HQ), Helbrute, Potato Tanks, X-Fiends, Heldrake

There could be more CSM ports (like Cultists), but this is giving us a pretty good idea of what the Codex will look like.

The reddit leaker already had a huge amount of credence in that they correctly predicted pretty much every major release since around this time last year. We didn't need the Lord Invocatus preview to know that.

I was sort of shocked to see that there was only one reveal, but yeah, if this confirms the leak, then Warcom has only 3-4 units more to show. Um.

One of the 'Khorne Possessed', will probably be Mutilators.

 warboss wrote:
I like the helmet. Did the new bezerkers get that kind of asthetic as well?

Helmet certainly looks like the 'face of a bloodletter' mutation, which goes all the way back to the original Slaves To Darkness book.

 TonyH122 wrote:

I would bet on Slaughterbrute too.

Man, people are going to give me the stink eye when I plop down my old school metal brick to represent Lord Invocactis

One thing I want to point out about the original rumor is that the Jugger dude was supposed to "have wings". However, the quick fluff statement made mention of him flying on fire. My guess is the phone game happening, which brings even more credence to that rumor in my opinion if you had trouble believing it to begin with

 cuda1179 wrote:
Man, people are going to give me the stink eye when I plop down my old school metal brick to represent Lord Invocactis

You'll survive. I get the same with my RT Land Raider.

Old metal juggerlords on on the same scale as dreadsocks for enforcing table-side justice. Nobody with any sense should give you trouble for fielding one.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Man, people are going to give me the stink eye when I plop down my old school metal brick to represent Lord Invocactis

Yeah, using completely wrong models for wrong unit just for advantage tends to do that, go figure

 warboss wrote:
You'll survive. I get the same with my RT Land Raider.

At least this one is kinda-sorta right unit (even if wrong loadout and look) but really, if you wanted to be 100% kosher and fair to the opponent, you'd use it as a razorback, much closer in size and loadout than to any of the current Land Raiders. At least that's what I'd do.

 Irbis wrote:

 warboss wrote:
You'll survive. I get the same with my RT Land Raider.

At least this one is kinda-sorta right unit (even if wrong loadout and look) but really, if you wanted to be 100% kosher and fair to the opponent, you'd use it as a razorback, much closer in size and loadout than to any of the current Land Raiders. At least that's what I'd do.

When you're using RT rhinos/razorbacks alongside it, that solution might be more confusing than the initial problem.


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 Nevelon wrote:
Old metal juggerlords on on the same scale as dreadsocks for enforcing table-side justice. Nobody with any sense should give you trouble for fielding one.

I was going to post a similar joke. When I got back into 40k in 5th edition with completely new (and younger!) players who hadn't ever seen anything other than plastics other than the occasional special character, the first time they physically picked up my old 2e dreadnought or land speeder was entertaining.

 TonyH122 wrote:
Well, the preview of Lord Invocatus lends a huge amount of credence to the Reddit leaker, who not only spoiled the model type (Unique Jugger Lord), but also got the name right.

The implications:
NO Khorne Terminators (Red Butchers, Lord, or otherwise)
NO Khorne vehicles
New Releases (not already previewed) restricted mainly to: Standard Jugger Lord (dual kit w/ Invocatus), Khorne Possessed #1, Khorne Possessed #2.
CSM Ports: Daemon Prince, Master of Executions (HQ), Helbrute, Potato Tanks, X-Fiends, Heldrake

There could be more CSM ports (like Cultists), but this is giving us a pretty good idea of what the Codex will look like.

If this is the base of WE, what is the chances that the teased new Demon Prince model is Dark Mech and that with its release 10k could see a wave of more Demon engines (story line justification)? Just speculation here.

Usually daemon engines happen when the mad scientist goes wrong. In 40k they happen when the mad scientist gets it right, so...

I'm thinking the "no vehicles" part means no new Khorne specific vehicles. It will obviously have Land Raiders, Rhinos, Dreadnoughts, and Lord of Skulls. Even with those AND cultists and daemons it will be a thin codex. There has to be more we don't know about.

That's bigger line than some other armies so not that sure

 Irbis wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
Man, people are going to give me the stink eye when I plop down my old school metal brick to represent Lord Invocactis

Yeah, using completely wrong models for wrong unit just for advantage tends to do that, go figure

There was no mention of an attempt to gain any "advantage", this was made up by you.

And using the model of a Khornate CSM hero on a Juggernaut to represent a Khornate CSM hero on a Juggernaut? How dare you...

 Irbis wrote:

 warboss wrote:
You'll survive. I get the same with my RT Land Raider.

At least this one is kinda-sorta right unit (even if wrong loadout and look) but really, if you wanted to be 100% kosher and fair to the opponent, you'd use it as a razorback, much closer in size and loadout than to any of the current Land Raiders. At least that's what I'd do.

"Wrong loadout and look"? As far as I know the RT Land Raider has a completely legal weapon loadout by todays standards. It is a Land Raider model used as a Land Raider.

Sure, using it as a different unit with a completely different weapon loadout is "100% kosher and fair to the opponent"... not.

So, performing here a little act of necromancy while we waaaaait for previews (i don't expect them until 2023)

Isn't it kinda worrying that Astra Militarum, and more concretely, Cadia, gets more miniatures than World Eaters, an entire whole army? According to the leaks there's only two more WE kits left

Garrac wrote:
So, performing here a little act of necromancy while we waaaaait for previews (i don't expect them until 2023)

Isn't it kinda worrying that Astra Militarum, and more concretely, Cadia, gets more miniatures than World Eaters, an entire whole army? According to the leaks there's only two more WE kits left

No. We have plenty of examples of new armies getting a codex and small model release, followed a year or so later with a new codex and another small model release and so on and so forth until they're comparable to some of the other armies in size.

It's damned annoying, but given the way we've been treated the last twenty years it's not even the slightest bit surprising.

Garrac wrote:
So, performing here a little act of necromancy while we waaaaait for previews (i don't expect them until 2023)

Isn't it kinda worrying that Astra Militarum, and more concretely, Cadia, gets more miniatures than World Eaters, an entire whole army? According to the leaks there's only two more WE kits left

More new miniatures. WE range overall won't be the smallest by far.

Dudeface wrote:

Garrac wrote:
So, performing here a little act of necromancy while we waaaaait for previews (i don't expect them until 2023)

Isn't it kinda worrying that Astra Militarum, and more concretely, Cadia, gets more miniatures than World Eaters, an entire whole army? According to the leaks there's only two more WE kits left

More new miniatures. WE range overall won't be the smallest by far.

Well, I mean, doesn't seem it's small, but if leaks are on the right, they'll be as big as TS, and I think they haven't got a rerelease since 2016. And Im not saying it will be empty, as I assume it will have some CSM units

And, oh, I forgot there's a third kit left to show, the generic HQ choice. I guess it will be some sort of chaos-berserker-lord, but then there wouldnt be any apotecharies (which would be strategically better)

I'd still wager 10th edition will see a second wave of World Eaters.

I cannot believe GW would miss a chance to put out Blood Terminator, Blood Havoks and Blood Raptors.

The bloody guys who really like blood are so on brand for 40k I expect a lot more.